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LeighDx59

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EF says Preds in market for a defenseman. After just giving away Fabbro. I’ve only been in Nashville 6 weeks, but already have serious doubts in GM Trotz.

The only way this works is if theyre trying to add a top 4 defenseman like Andersson from Calgary to lightening the load for Josi and Skjei. But I shudder to think what the price tag would be.
 

Kat Predator

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The only way this works is if theyre trying to add a top 4 defenseman like Andersson from Calgary to lightening the load for Josi and Skjei. But I shudder to think what the price tag would be.
They had a top 4 defensive defenseman. He's now playing in Columbus on their top pairing.

I'm not sure Andersson fixes that sort of planning and team structure. He does bring size and more offensive ability, but can he play the power deforward position that Bruno wants? (So far, it doesn't look like anyone can.)
 
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LeighDx59

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They had a top 4 defensive defenseman. He's now playing in Columbus on their top pairing.

I'm not sure Andersson fixes that sort of planning and team structure. He does bring size and more offensive ability, but can he play the power deforward position that Bruno wants? (So far, it doesn't look like anyone can.)

I dont disagree at all. I never understood how they could waive the one defender who could play alongside Josi without missing a beat. I'm just hoping if Trotz is trying to get a defender, he's spending the assets to grab a guy who's a legit top four (not that Fabbro wasnt) who can pass the puck and defend instead of another Lauzon or Schenn.
 

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I dont disagree at all. I never understood how they could waive the one defender who could play alongside Josi without missing a beat. I'm just hoping if Trotz is trying to get a defender, he's spending the assets to grab a guy who's a legit top four (not that Fabbro wasnt) who can pass the puck and defend instead of another Lauzon or Schenn.

I'd add Carrier to the can't defend list.
 

Kat Predator

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I'd put Carrier in the smaller puck mover column. Probably why he's still here, actually. Most coaches would pair him with a solid defensive guy, like McDonagh. But that's not what we do here, so he's paired with a guy who's an overly aggressive hitter and takes himself out of plays.
 

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Barring a miraculous run like we had last year, this season is going to be a long, painful, disappointing slog. Something we really have never had to endure since the early expansion days. We are about to find out how spoiled we have been as a fanbase.
2013 was pretty bad, too. I think I'm remembering right. Shortened lockout year when the most exciting play of the year was Shea blinding the GM...and it was practice.
 

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2013 was pretty bad, too. I think I'm remembering right. Shortened lockout year when the most exciting play of the year was Shea blinding the GM...and it was practice.
You're remembering correctly but the fact that it was such a short season is why I didn't count it. It was painful but it was only a couple of months
 

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I must say that while I don't care for Brunette's special treatment towards veteran players, Cole Smith has been one I've not been disappointed in. He's developed into a great PK'er, is constantly harassing the opposition and has also chipped in offensively. I think he's been one of our most consistent players throughout this year and should not be bundled together with the rest of the underperfoming vets.
 

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I must say that while I don't care for Brunette's special treatment towards veteran players, Cole Smith has been one I've not been disappointed in. He's developed into a great PK'er, is constantly harassing the opposition and has also chipped in offensively. I think he's been one of our most consistent players throughout this year and should not be bundled together with the rest of the underperfoming vets.
Are you Willy Daunic?

He's a solid PK'er as you have to hustle and work out there. I'll give him that.

Chipping in offensively is a bit of an overreach. I think he kills more plays than he contributes to. He is slow to get his shot off, if he even does. He doesn't handle passes well and when he does, doesn't make good reads or passes when he has the puck.

He has been consistent. He's just not very good and for a team that struggles for offense, what he brings with hustle, effort and PK ability doesn't make up for his shortcomings elsewhere. We can't ice guys like him and McC and be successful long term. While it looked nice last year, our big point streaks were in spite of these guys, not because of these guys.

And to add to my Willy rant from earlier, every time I hear him say Cole Smith, I cringe.

I'll ask you to do one thing, watch the 4th line on Wednesday night and see who impacts the game the most. See who's driving play. See who's killing plays. See who's making smart reads with the puck or while forechecking. Let me know what you see.
 

Kat Predator

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Seriously though, you have to take Willy with a big block of salt. His job is to hype the team. Glossing over glaring mistakes is part of that. Hyperventilating over the most pedestrian play possible is also part of that. Giving everyone in the lineup verbal participation trophies is part of it too.

Knowing the difference between a powerplay and a three pointer is apparently less important than the hype since his bosses bring him back year after year.
 

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Apparently Friedman says we're in the market for a center and a top 4 RD. The team definitely needs those pieces but to do that we're going to have to dip into our prospect pool which sort of ruins the concept of competing while also keeping an eye on the future. I'll be openminded to whatever move we make but I really fear that the point streak last season may actually end up setting this team back for many years to come. Although given how we've handled young players development maybe moving them out while they're still magic beans isn't the worst idea in the world.
 

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Seriously though, you have to take Willy with a big block of salt. His job is to hype the team. Glossing over glaring mistakes is part of that. Hyperventilating over the most pedestrian play possible is also part of that. Giving everyone in the lineup verbal participation trophies is part of it too.

Knowing the difference between a powerplay and a three pointer is apparently less important than the hype since his bosses bring him back year after year.
More like an entire salt mine. I usually block him out but last night it got to be too much. WIth all the options out there, this is the best we can do?
 
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After many years of watching sports I do agree that both Willy and Mason are more the "hype the team" types than honest observers of what is actually going on. Do any of you cringe like I do when Mason says you can tell the "goalie is really dialed in because his head and eyes are watching the puck". Isn't that what a goalie is supposed to watch, or is he supposed to focus on the blond in the third row? I really wish Hal Gill would do the color on TV and put Mason on the radio so we can get a more professional reaction to the game.
 

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You have to remember that Willy and Mason are employed by the Nashville Predators. They are not going to get on TV and say anything overly negative.
 

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Seriously though, you have to take Willy with a big block of salt. His job is to hype the team. Glossing over glaring mistakes is part of that. Hyperventilating over the most pedestrian play possible is also part of that. Giving everyone in the lineup verbal participation trophies is part of it too.

Knowing the difference between a powerplay and a three pointer is apparently less important than the hype since his bosses bring him back year after year.
I’d highly recommend listening to Aaron Simms call the Admirals game. That’s how play by play should be done. I heard the play by play guy for the Manitoba Moose the other day for the first time, he’s excellent as well. Those goes do hockey play by play right as opposed to whatever it is that Daunic does.
 

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Are you Willy Daunic?

He's a solid PK'er as you have to hustle and work out there. I'll give him that.

Chipping in offensively is a bit of an overreach. I think he kills more plays than he contributes to. He is slow to get his shot off, if he even does. He doesn't handle passes well and when he does, doesn't make good reads or passes when he has the puck.

He has been consistent. He's just not very good and for a team that struggles for offense, what he brings with hustle, effort and PK ability doesn't make up for his shortcomings elsewhere. We can't ice guys like him and McC and be successful long term. While it looked nice last year, our big point streaks were in spite of these guys, not because of these guys.

And to add to my Willy rant from earlier, every time I hear him say Cole Smith, I cringe.

I'll ask you to do one thing, watch the 4th line on Wednesday night and see who impacts the game the most. See who's driving play. See who's killing plays. See who's making smart reads with the puck or while forechecking. Let me know what you see.
Obviously he has his flaws and he's not a perfect player by any means but for a 4th liner making league minimum, he's been solid. He's played over 47 minutes of PK this year and he's only -1 there. Granted, PK is a team effort but from my POV, he's been very good there.
 

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I have no problem with Smith on the 4th line playing 4th line minutes. He does a really good job at what he’s supposed to do. Smith shouldn’t be blamed for the dumbass decisions that the coaching staff are making. Smith isn’t the one that decided to bench Evangelista and double shift Smith, that was a coach. Smith just went out and did the best he could at what the coaches asked him to do.

Smith has turned into a solid 4th line player that does a solid job on the PK. He’s not a dynamic goal scorer and he never will be. Judge him for doing the role he’s supposed to be doing. If he’s having to play a role outside of what he’s good at, judge the coaching staff for making the decision to put Smith in that situation.
 

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