Nashville Predators Talk - 2024/2025 Season
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BigFatCat999
First Fubu and now Pred303. !@#$! you cancer
Is it racist if you wanna slap a black man across the face for saying something hockey stupid
Bringer of Jollity
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Well, when you phrase it that way...
Why not just "is it wrong to want to slap a guy in the face for saying something stupid?"
Dolly Parton called Trotz and convinced him to trade for Sidney Crosby. Bruno plans to run him with McCarron and Smith.
I was trying to represent Fabbro, apparently, I failed....
BigFatCat999
First Fubu and now Pred303. !@#$! you cancer
Cliff notes version; Kevin Weekes made a hot take that the Nashville Predators needed trade for Sidney Crosby. My initial reaction came in two forms. “HAVE YOU LOST CHO DAMNED MIND?” To “is it racist if I slap him across the mouth for having such a stupid hockey take?”
But I had my MS medication this afternoon, which involved me sitting in a chair with a needle in my arm stuck, thinking for an hour. I have my clipboard, a pad of paper and my cell phone. I did the math. Yes it is possible with their cap space with their assets for Nashville to trade both Crosby & Malkin.
I sent an apology to Kevin. I did not use any racial slurs or epitaphs. my brain just went. Am I being a racist because I thought this gentleman was being an idiot and should have some sense knocked into him, not based race, but on are you freaking kidding me!
Mathematically, it can be done. Assets involved can make this feel possible.
Would I do it? Hell no. But it was a fun exercise to stretch my brain.
But I had my MS medication this afternoon, which involved me sitting in a chair with a needle in my arm stuck, thinking for an hour. I have my clipboard, a pad of paper and my cell phone. I did the math. Yes it is possible with their cap space with their assets for Nashville to trade both Crosby & Malkin.
I sent an apology to Kevin. I did not use any racial slurs or epitaphs. my brain just went. Am I being a racist because I thought this gentleman was being an idiot and should have some sense knocked into him, not based race, but on are you freaking kidding me!
Mathematically, it can be done. Assets involved can make this feel possible.
Would I do it? Hell no. But it was a fun exercise to stretch my brain.
6 games left, another point tonight, currently 28th with games still going on. .382 point percentage. Winning out gets us 25 points, wildcard 2 is currently at 19 points.
Scoresberg
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I think it might be time to move Sissons and Carrier before their value tanks completely. Just absolutely nothing from those guys right now.
glenngineer
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At what point does Trotz give Svechkov a shot? I wouldn't move Parssinen off of the line with Tomasino and Evangelista, which still leaves a void at 2C. Sissons ain't getting it done. I get kids need to develop. At the same time, we need to see if he can play at this level. He'll have Gus on a wing, who is defensively responsible. He'll have March on the other wing so he'll have a veteran presence on the line that would probably welcome a playmaker and some youthful legs.
While it was nice that McC and Smith scored last night, the team has to start figuring out a way to squeeze them out of the lineup.
I do think the kid line has energized this team to some degree. I think ZLH is starting to use his speed more in the last couple of games because he's gotten used to the speed of the game at this level. He's going to need to get off that 4th line at some point and he's working towards it. Problem is, there's a logjam of wingers ahead of him on the depth chart at the moment. I expect next year he'll be in the top 9.
Back to the original question, how long before Svechkov gets a shot?
While it was nice that McC and Smith scored last night, the team has to start figuring out a way to squeeze them out of the lineup.
I do think the kid line has energized this team to some degree. I think ZLH is starting to use his speed more in the last couple of games because he's gotten used to the speed of the game at this level. He's going to need to get off that 4th line at some point and he's working towards it. Problem is, there's a logjam of wingers ahead of him on the depth chart at the moment. I expect next year he'll be in the top 9.
Back to the original question, how long before Svechkov gets a shot?
Svechkov is playing great. Id personally keep him down in the AHL until we sell off some parts though. I dont see a need to rush him in when this team isnt going anywhere and i dont think he is the difference between making the playoffs and missing it.
What happens when Novak comes back? The kid line looks good and i wouldnt mess with it but even when they provide almost half the teams SOG against edmonton they get the least amount of TOI. Do we think Bruno will actually keep it together? Does Jankowski get to tag back in with Novak? Does Novak get another look with Stamkos and Marchessault now that the rest of the lines are settling out.... but then what to do with sissons? Alot of moving pieces without throwing another piece into it. If we sell of Nyquist at the deadline and maybe another forward then that gives plenty of space for Svechkov to come in and the remaining pieces scramble around.
What happens when Novak comes back? The kid line looks good and i wouldnt mess with it but even when they provide almost half the teams SOG against edmonton they get the least amount of TOI. Do we think Bruno will actually keep it together? Does Jankowski get to tag back in with Novak? Does Novak get another look with Stamkos and Marchessault now that the rest of the lines are settling out.... but then what to do with sissons? Alot of moving pieces without throwing another piece into it. If we sell of Nyquist at the deadline and maybe another forward then that gives plenty of space for Svechkov to come in and the remaining pieces scramble around.
Predsanddead24
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I can't find the exact quote right now but a couple weeks ago Trotz mentioned that Svechkov will likely be in the NHL in the near future but they wanted him to get his legs back first since he was hurt in camp. I'd expect we probably see him sometime soon.
Squeezing McCarron and Smith out of the lineup is fine with me but end of the day we need way more out of every single on of our top players. As long as they continue to play this poorly everything else is putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound.
glenngineer
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If he's playing great, why keep him in the AHL? Seems counterproductive. If we're not going anywhere, get him up to speed on what it's like playing in the NHL rather than waiting for a spot to open up. If he's good enough to displace someone, I don't care if the team is or isn't going anywhere, he deserves the spot.
Guys shouldn't lose spots when they get injured, already happened with Novak once. On the flip side, if he comes in and plays well and Novak seems to find his game again, maybe you move Sissons for some other pieces you may need or you move him to the fourth line and other guys to the bench.
Throwing him into the 2nd line horrorshow probably doesnt help his confidence and disrupting the other lines that are working is counterproductive. I just dont see a need to move him up until we start moving pieces. Move Nyquist and Sissons at the deadline (or before if we continue to suck) and that creates upward mobility for Svechkov to come up and Novak to turn into a winger.
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I'm not sure Sissons is even moveable at this point. Maybe his past accomplishments and his PKing salvage his value but he's literally been one of the worst players in the league this season. Tough to imagine any team wants to take on his ~$3M cap hit for that level of play.
Literally naming the only reasons we got a point last night
Right now i want sissons squeezed out of the lineup. Maybe if he gets dropped down the the 4th line in place of McCarron, his play would level back out but McCarron, Smith, and L'Heureux are gelling into a decent line
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I’m usually a staunch defender of Sissons but I can’t disagree that he’s off his game so far this year. I’m not a big fan of judging a guy just based on his worst ever stretch of 20ish games, however. But his value is going to be highest at the TDL regardless, so we have time. He has a good reputation around the league, playoff teams are looking for players with his resume. I can definitely see getting a 2nd at minimum for him. And I’m content to wait and see if his game doesn’t come back around before seeking that.
Roman Yoshi
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Realistically, I don't see us winning 3 out of the next 5.
This team will be more well done than a trump steak by Thanksgiving
This team will be more well done than a trump steak by Thanksgiving
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As for Svechkov… if I truly believed the Preds would call him up and use him as a full-time top-9 center with good wingers and consistent 15+ mins of ice time … then I’d be all for calling him up.
But I don’t for one second believe that would happen. He’d be on the same carousel as Parssinen or Tomasino have been, first guy to get his ice clipped below 10mins, or saddled with Smith etc on his wing, or shifted to wing himself, or parked in the press box. So that being the case, I’m perfectly happy to just let him fill the net in Milwaukee, even if he scores 100 pts there or whatever.
It’s not exactly “overcooking” that I’m in support of… it’s avoiding whatever it is we want to call Chef Bruno’s cooking methods.
But I don’t for one second believe that would happen. He’d be on the same carousel as Parssinen or Tomasino have been, first guy to get his ice clipped below 10mins, or saddled with Smith etc on his wing, or shifted to wing himself, or parked in the press box. So that being the case, I’m perfectly happy to just let him fill the net in Milwaukee, even if he scores 100 pts there or whatever.
It’s not exactly “overcooking” that I’m in support of… it’s avoiding whatever it is we want to call Chef Bruno’s cooking methods.
Bringing up/playing prospects now isn't about salvaging the season, this one is gone. It's about transition into the future. Svechkov can come up while Novak is out, play 2C, and move Sissons or McC to the bench for a bit. Svechkov can always be sent back down once Novak gets back if it's the appropriate thing to do, or send McCarron to the A.
The bottom six seem like they’re finally starting to find some chemistry and gel. The top six is a complete mess.
Giving up young assets for a 38 year old would make me not watch a game the rest of the year, embargo on buying new gear, etc etc. We have to eventually face down the fact that we are not a contender and rebuild appropriately.
Agreed on Sissons+Carrier as must-trades at this point. Lauzon is in the same boat for me. Zegras is off to an atrocious start with Anaheim, I wonder if we can get him for cheap.
Agreed on Sissons+Carrier as must-trades at this point. Lauzon is in the same boat for me. Zegras is off to an atrocious start with Anaheim, I wonder if we can get him for cheap.
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