Proposal: Nail Yakupov for Adam McQuaid, 2nd and 3rd rounder.

[Michel Beauchamp]

At this point a 3rd round pick is overpayment for Yakupov. Plus he doesn't address a single need for the Bruins.

This oversteps the boundaries of reasonableness...

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Well, based on the fact Edmonton is trying to unload him and there haven't been any takers except nonsense by Ek, that should tell you Edmonton's placed value on the bust is too high.

They are ?

The management ?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Why would Boston make their D even worse?

 

[Vatican Roulette]

as far as yak value goes... lets remember its established by the team that has him and the team that wants him.

joe thornton and tyler seguin had far less value than boston fans believed... so did taylor hall

i would think hf posters would long ago stop pretending we know what a players value is. we can say what we personally would offer, but trying to speak for 30 nhl gms is just ********

none of us will say more than 3 of the next 10 trades in the nhl are win win. we will all say at least 7 of the next 10 trades are one sided.

this proves none of us know the real value of anyone

although common sense would suggest yakupovs value isnt very high at the moment compared to when he was the first pick

I agree. But a pick is a pick, might have been a high pick, but the value isn't there.

McQuaid
Bjork
Griffith


For

Yakupov
Reinhart

 

[Major Happy*]

Overpayment from the Bruins. McQuaid is the better NHLer.

 

[BluesTraveler]

As a Bruins fan, I take this and run. Replace McQuaid with one of like four players in Providence who can bring more to the ice than him, and hope a change in scenery fixes Yak.

 

[flooredaccord]

swap k miller instead of mcq ?

 

[ManofSteel55]

swap k miller instead of mcq ?

Neither K Miller nor McQuaid bring what we need. 2 years ago I would have loved to have had McQ, but he is no longer needed here.

Swap out for C Miller and there might be something here, but aside from that I don't see a fit from our side.

 

[bearcountry17]

swap k miller instead of mcq ?

Why?

 

[Brock Radunske]

Hey Oilers fans: How did it work out last time when you guys acquired a Boston defenseman on a downswing with "a ring and leadership/grit"?

 

[northeastern]

Id do that. I'd prefer k Miller going but still. Mac would bring some experience and toughness to the oiles and even though lucic can throw em he can't protect that entire team... But I'm by no means up to date on the needs of the oilers...

I wouldn't do chiller as mentioned above however in that deal.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

I'm curious what Bruins fans think. So far it's been almost entirely Oiler fans who have chimed in.

Fair deal if you take one of the picks away.

Makes plenty of sense on paper but realistically feels like a move that would never happen.


The Bruins historically don't like Russian players. A recent 2nd rounder Kokolachev lead our AHL team in scoring for 2-3 years and was rewarded with 5-6 total NHL games over that timeframe. While we signed crap like Jonas Kempainan and Max Talbot and played them instead 40 odd games each last year. Chiarelli doesn't like the Bruins and any trade he makes with Boston he'd be willing to take a similar albeit slightly lesser return from someone else to not help them out. The worse the Bruins do the better he looks.

We are after guys like Backes and Beleskey. Its not just Russians the Bruins hate offensive first forwards.


Have you seen how good Tyler Seguin (significantly better than Hall right now) and Phil Kessel are? Not many more talented forwards out there than those two. But guess what the Bruins thought they ****ing sucked and it was addition by subtraction removing soft players like that. They even thought both guys weren't worth their 2nd contracts which both sort of turned out to be 2 of the biggest steals in the NHL at a certain point in time.

 

[flooredaccord]

Why?

Because Depot the age diff, I can not stand k.m. would rather keep mcq over him

 

[bearcountry17]

Because Depot the age diff, I can not stand k.m. would rather keep mcq over him

I'll just say there is a reason K. Miller got more ice time against tougher competition despite being a less experienced player under Julien.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Hey Oilers fans: How did it work out last time when you guys acquired a Boston defenseman on a downswing with "a ring and leadership/grit"?

This is a big part of why we have zero interest in McQuaid.

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

McQuaid sucks. At least Yakupov has potential still.

 

[alg363636]

Eh, I wouldn't do the 2nd and 3rd. McQuaid + 2nd - yeah probably.

Bruins have given up a lot of 2nds for nothing lately, no need to take another gamble.

Also McQuaid doesn't suck - just don't pull a Ference and expect to him to be something he's not.

 

[dredeye]

Fair deal if you take one of the picks away.

Makes plenty of sense on paper but realistically feels like a move that would never happen.


The Bruins historically don't like Russian players. A recent 2nd rounder Kokolachev lead our AHL team in scoring for 2-3 years and was rewarded with 5-6 total NHL games over that timeframe. While we signed crap like Jonas Kempainan and Max Talbot and played them instead 40 odd games each last year. Chiarelli doesn't like the Bruins and any trade he makes with Boston he'd be willing to take a similar albeit slightly lesser return from someone else to not help them out. The worse the Bruins do the better he looks.

We are after guys like Backes and Beleskey. Its not just Russians the Bruins hate offensive first forwards.


Have you seen how good Tyler Seguin (significantly better than Hall right now) and Phil Kessel are? Not many more talented forwards out there than those two. But guess what the Bruins thought they ****ing sucked and it was addition by subtraction removing soft players like that. They even thought both guys weren't worth their 2nd contracts which both sort of turned out to be 2 of the biggest steals in the NHL at a certain point in time.

What on earth is this post? That last paragraph is inaccurate at best. Seguin and Kessel were not traded for the reasons you listed. That Seguin trade is one that will hurt for a long time. Chia and the Bruins staff made a mistake. They weren't patient enough to recognize his immaturity. You also realize we got Seguin and Hamilton as a result of trading Kessel right. Worked great the first time and horribly the second.

 

[Coach Parker]

Lose the 3rd off the deal and it works for me. Even dropping it to a 4th works.

 

[Sempiternal]

Rather gamble on Yak until he's a UFA or goes to KHL than trade for nothing special. I'm still a believer.

 

[BruinLVGA]

Fair deal if you take one of the picks away.

Makes plenty of sense on paper but realistically feels like a move that would never happen.


The Bruins historically don't like Russian players. A recent 2nd rounder Kokolachev lead our AHL team in scoring for 2-3 years and was rewarded with 5-6 total NHL games over that timeframe. While we signed crap like Jonas Kempainan and Max Talbot and played them instead 40 odd games each last year. Chiarelli doesn't like the Bruins and any trade he makes with Boston he'd be willing to take a similar albeit slightly lesser return from someone else to not help them out. The worse the Bruins do the better he looks.

We are after guys like Backes and Beleskey. Its not just Russians the Bruins hate offensive first forwards.


Have you seen how good Tyler Seguin (significantly better than Hall right now) and Phil Kessel are? Not many more talented forwards out there than those two. But guess what the Bruins thought they ****ing sucked and it was addition by subtraction removing soft players like that. They even thought both guys weren't worth their 2nd contracts which both sort of turned out to be 2 of the biggest steals in the NHL at a certain point in time.

Re bolded... Nope. No one had the slightest doubt that Kessel and Seguin were top level players and were worthy of their contracts.

With Kessel it was that there were serious problems brewing with Julien - Kessel was and remained a defensive black hole for all his tenure with the Leafs, now imagine how Julien would have taken to that... - and also Toronto came very strongly at Kessel with a $5.4 per year contract that back then was way too rich for the Bruins. At least Burke was a gentleman and instead of going the offer sheet route, which would have cost Toronto lesser picks, he straight up made a good offer.

With Seguin, it was the fact that someone - my guess would be mostly Chiarelli, especially after seeing how he now traded Hall for a, in my opinion, lesser player - decided that a team in the cap era can't possibly run with THREE #1 centers. Seen that Bergeron was untouchable, it was either Krejci or Seguin. The fact that Krejci had just lead the entire league in playoffs points in his mid 20s (did it also 2 seasons before then) + the fact that trading a young star would fetch a great deal of assets that could possibly prop up the team for quite a few years, tipped the scale.
I really don't think that it was a reaction to Seguin's "immaturity". That was just an excuse to make it look like a thing that had to be done. To appease the uncouth masses, so to speak. It was purely a hockey decision, that then backfired brutally, unfortunately. I was against it from minute 1 because Seguin's talent was already in full view and to ME, it was too much to part with. But I understand how it might have looked like something not that stupid to do for the management.

 

[varano]

Re bolded... Nope. No one had the slightest doubt that Kessel and Seguin were top level players and were worthy of their contracts.

With Kessel it was that there were serious problems brewing with Julien - Kessel was and remained a defensive black hole for all his tenure with the Leafs, now imagine how Julien would have taken to that... - and also Toronto came very strongly at Kessel with a $5.4 per year contract that back then was way too rich for the Bruins. At least Burke was a gentleman and instead of going the offer sheet route, which would have cost Toronto lesser picks, he straight up made a good offer.

With Seguin, it was the fact that someone - my guess would be mostly Chiarelli, especially after seeing how he now traded Hall for a, in my opinion, lesser player - decided that a team in the cap era can't possibly run with THREE #1 centers. Seen that Bergeron was untouchable, it was either Krejci or Seguin. The fact that Krejci had just lead the entire league in playoffs points in his mid 20s (did it also 2 seasons before then) + the fact that trading a young star would fetch a great deal of assets that could possibly prop up the team for quite a few years, tipped the scale.
I really don't think that it was a reaction to Seguin's "immaturity". That was just an excuse to make it look like a thing that had to be done. To appease the uncouth masses, so to speak. It was purely a hockey decision, that then backfired brutally, unfortunately. I was against it from minute 1 because Seguin's talent was already in full view and to ME, it was too much to part with. But I understand how it might have looked like something not that stupid to do for the management.

As much as I think you're a bruins homer... Everything you said in this post is 100% factually correct.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

kessel and seguin wouldnt buy into the bruins way of doing things... when a player is a superstar he becomes the team leader. if that player isnt a winner the whole team suffers

kessel... was comfortable going fishing when his team got elliminated. he was very shy... didnt practice hard... didnt really enjoy playing defense.

no one ever questioned his incredible skill at offense but they did question if he will produce it consistently...and question how bad a team leader he is if hes not deep in the shadow of crosby and malkin.

put kessel on a third line without preasure and he seems like a hell of a player for 6 weeks but boston felt letting him be the man fulltime might end up like toronto...

as for seguin... wrong crowd... bad influences... missing curfews at playoff time... needing the team to babysit him... his twitter mistakes... dissapearing offensively for a month at a time... not wanting to commit himself to two way hockey

again... a world class offensive player... led boston in scoring. we all knew he was our best player.

but hes not a captain boston felt they wanted establishing their team idenity. boston felt his crowd of friends were too damaging. it was a trade to deal a bad fit... a personality boston didnt believe they could fix

joe thornton and his buddies... samsonov... murray... boynton... raycroft... the clique... all shown the door because they wouldnt buy into the team idenity.

but marc savard had that rep... he was brought in and he fit. krejci has skill, but he fit

its not skill boston hates... its guys who put themselves ahead of the team... its prima donnas... its guys who dont eat breath sleep hockey.

from what ive heard yakupov doesnt have that problem.

boston has shown they have little paitence for 1 way superstars... but are willing to try to teach a 3rd line kid how to play 2 way

spooner is currently going through that...

a trade between edmonton boston wont happen... but id be happy if it did. the basis for a deal here makes sense imho

 

[heilongjetsfan]

Yup, good leadership skills and would bring the right type of competitive attitude to the locker room. Also lets us keep Nurse in the AHL next year and not forcing him into the lineup on the 3rd pairing.

Going forward, a Nurse-McQuaid 3rd pairing would be the toughest D pairing in the NHL.

Buff - Trouba? Yours is tough but I think mine wins, and you can keep them on the ice for almost 30 mins per night

 

[major major]

What's the difference between Gryba and Mcquaid?

Other than that it looks like a great deal for both clubs.