OT: Music Part V

[Sagikev]

I hate getting cerebral on this forum, but? I would argue that music and other forms of art are a reflection of a culture’s character, while celebrating those values in music.

Encompassing every single genre in the same scope of analysis is a recipe for disaster (sorry if the sentence doesn't make much sense, I'm francophone and I'm not sure either if it conveys what I want to say lmao).

There's way more to rap than people who only listens/knows the surface can know (and it's normal, it's the same for literally every genre). I've been listening to rap all my life and for my master's degree in literature, I'm writing a memoir on rap. I know a lot about the culture, the genre, and the way it's being portrayed right now is reductive while also being an out of touch stance.

Ok enough derailing the subject, X will keep giving it to ya, wether you like it or not!

 

[Skip Bayless]

X gon' give it to ya is a masterpiece

 

[Sasha Orlov]

I hate getting cerebral on this forum, but? I would argue that music and other forms of art are a reflection of a culture’s character, while celebrating those values in music.


It’s called wisdom

I agree with his post almost entirely, still sounds douchy as hell lol

 

[peate]

I like rap:

 

[rik schau]

I remember going to clubs ans seeing bands,mostly doing covers,most start like that. Most can play the music aspect well to very good,the tough part is replicating the vocals. Many musicians can play very well,the more difficult part is composing and arranging to make a song a hit. Navarone started out doing covers but now they have a handful of albums. Doing covers usually only gets you so far and not so easy to cover a wide range of artists and get the vocals close to all the artist you're covering, Even pros don't always do a good job,remember Dio doing Ozzy or Johnson doing Bon?These guys do a pretty decent job and will attach a few of their better ones. Saw them a few months ago at a festival but they only did original material. In Child in time,thought it was one of the best organ jobs.


If you got something,I'll listen and give feedback,not that it's worth much,@peate might have some insight to this.

Very impressive,covering a Freddy song is bold and like the sound covering the Fab four.

 

[rik schau]

Most people have terrible taste in music.

People buy McDonald's more than any other restaurant in the world yet the food is objectively of poor culinary quality.......same applies to most pop music which is just the musical equivalent of fast food chains feeding garbage to the masses that are hooked on it.

Group mentality,conditioning,feeble minded,how else can you explain why American football is so popular.lol

 

[rik schau]

I like rap:

You forgot the C.lol

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I took another chance on a cheap Gibson LP. It might be a fake, or a well kept used. I found it on Aliexpress.

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Well, today I got an email confirming it is shipped. Delivery takes 4 to 6 weeks due to customs.

This should be interesting.

You will have fun with this. I hope that chinese guitar will sound as good as it looks. You can always improve the pick ups. Anyway, the choice of the pedal effects are a big factor in the sound. It's like a complex thing to study, it depends what sound you want to have or what songs you want to play.

Have fun !

 

[ArtPeur]

This video has 326M views.

 

[peate]

You will have fun with this. I hope that chinese guitar will sound as good as it looks. You can always improve the pick ups. Anyway, the choice of the pedal effects are a big factor in the sound. It's like a complex thing to study, it depends what sound you want to have or what songs you want to play.

Have fun !

I've been looking for clues to tell if it's genuine, it's even got a serial number that matches, saying it's a 2006 model, made in Nashville.

Serial number: 017160978
Production year: June 20, 2006 (Batch:0 Product nr.: 478)
(Manufactured in Nashville)

Batch:0?

However, the bridge looks wrong, so does the truss rod cover. I'll have to open it up and check the wiring to be sure.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I've been looking for clues to tell if it's genuine, it's even got a serial number that matches, saying it's a 2006 model, made in Nashville.

Serial number: 017160978
Production year: June 20, 2006 (Batch:0 Product nr.: 478)
(Manufactured in Nashville)

Batch:0?

However, the bridge looks wrong, so does the truss rod cover. I'll have to open it up and check the wiring to be sure.

You're a lucky guy. My dream is to own a Gibson like this, a Strat (or a goof imitation) and a Gretsch.
But I also want a good 12 string accoustic and maybe start playing bass.

 

[peate]

Another one?

 

[peate]

You're a lucky guy. My dream is to own a Gibson like this, a Strat (or a goof imitation) and a Gretsch.
But I also want a good 12 string accoustic and maybe start playing bass.

I've got a Strat Mex blackie w-maple neck.. Had it for 20+ years, played the hell out of it. Sounds great coming out of a Marshall. 12 strings are fun, but a pita to keep in tune. Gotta tune them in d. Prevents that high 3rd from breaking.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I've got a Strat Mex blackie w-maple neck.. Had it for 20+ years, played the hell out of it. Sounds great coming out of a Marshall. 12 strings are fun, but a pita to keep in tune. Gotta tune them in d. Prevents that high 3rd from breaking.

I used to own a 12 string electric semi accoustic Guild 1963. The keys were cheap. I was spending 20 minutes tuning and after 10 minutes of playing I needed to tune it again. So good looking but not playable. I sold it after 2 years but I regret it. Just the look was worth the guitar, dark red, it would have been a perfect decoration on the wall. The guy who bought it was a pro in guitar and he was wiilling to spend a thousand dollars on keys, pick ups and redo the neck. I was too broke at the time, I was a student in cegep.

 

[cphabs]

I agree with his post almost entirely, still sounds douchy as hell lol

No problem brother/sister!

 

[cphabs]

Encompassing every single genre in the same scope of analysis is a recipe for disaster (sorry if the sentence doesn't make much sense, I'm francophone and I'm not sure either if it conveys what I want to say lmao).

There's way more to rap than people who only listens/knows the surface can know (and it's normal, it's the same for literally every genre). I've been listening to rap all my life and for my master's degree in literature, I'm writing a memoir on rap. I know a lot about the culture, the genre, and the way it's being portrayed right now is reductive while also being an out of touch stance.

Ok enough derailing the subject, X will keep giving it to ya, wether you like it or not!

Umm, you’re claiming a language barrier to my original suggestion that music and lyrics reflect a culture’s values, while having no issue expounding your initial confusion with clarity.

 

[snakeye]

208m hits on youtube is just an example of how many sheep have been brainwashed by the industry to consume trash. If you have ever heard of twitter, facebook, intagram, snap chat etc.....you would know not to make a foolish conflation between quality and quantity.

DMX has zero talent.....the gangster rap era was an embarrassment to real rappers like Erik B. and Rakim who spoke out against tyranny and inequality. The Gangster idiots were largely sociopathic, talent-less bums who boasted and bragged about how much better they were as individuals than everyone else including their own fans. All the while they put money in the coffers of the same people who oppressed the original rappers who built the platform that these idiots were now deficating on. Basing a human's worth on their wealth and stepping on the oppressed was exactly what their predecessors fought to destroy only to have these fools embrace it and show that they were no better than the forces that birthed them.

You are also making claims on my behalf that I did not make. Of course there are good songs in all genres, I like all genres of music to varying degrees including rap but it is absolutely true that rap has a very high percentage of trash artists but they are not all bad. The main reason is that many of them are entirely without any musical talent and solely sell image while the production company doctors their voices through auto tune and integrate it into the same chord progression over and over. Give me raw, intelligent rap without auto-tune and preferably with a real drummer and a real bass guitar and I am happy.

I shit on contemporary pop music which includes pop garbage from rock, country, electronic and rap/hip hop. They primarily share variations of 1-4-5-(6) chord progressions that have been programmed into the heads of musically illiterate fans from the late seventies until now. It is just a mob of pattern seeking sheep who are largely without a musical palate from which to discern good from bad and are oblivious to the mass produced poop that they consume.

An easy way to tell if a band has real talent......look at the audience, if it is not full of musicians then they are probably poop.

For full transparency, I like alot of music that is objectively trash. Nostalgia is an incredibly powerful drug that we are all hooked on and there is nothing wrong with that. Everybody is free to like what they like but they should also be honest about things that they like that are crap and have a good laugh about it. I just get frustrated when non musical people try and tell me something is good when they don't have the first clue about what it actually is.

Couldn't have said it better. Kety Perry's Firework screeching noise, which has amassed 1.3 billion views on YouTube, shows exactly what views mean in relation to the quality of music, which is nothing.

 

[Stive Morgan]

Greatest band in the world

 

[angusyoung]

Attended an event where they played this classic,wild horses couldn't keep me off the dance floor! Let me tell you,the dogs were barking after that evening

I had a DJ copy of that song on a 10" vinyl. And she is an obsession, one that even surprises me.

 

[angusyoung]

Gotta ask,what compelled you to play this?

 

[Conflicted Habs fan]

Gotta ask,what compelled you to play this?

No reason other than nostalgia, as a kid growing up in north Manitoba I first heard this and immediately wanted to go to Montreal

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[peate]

Look what the mailman left me.

It's definitely a Chinese knock off, but man is it ever nice. Beautiful finish, decently set-up. What gave it away was the cheap electronics. Dime sized pots and thin wiring. Still sounds like a Les Paul and a great bargain.

 

[rik schau]

 

[YukonCornelius 5thOA]

Just gave my ‘83 Strat a makeover for those of you who care for such matters. No offence to anyone, but I just couldn’t stand it reminding me of Eric Clapton.