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It is because he sucks ass defensively and anchors any line hes on by forcing his other forwards to cover for him.
f***ing bullshit, after the first 10 games where he was stuck with RoRs lazy ass he had been night and day better both offensively and defensively. You just don't like him so you are going to find any reason to slam him. Just like you will find any reason to slam anyone you don't like.
 

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But it's for naught, as here comes yet another ENG against. Too bad. The Blues played decently in this game. They had bad luck with a player protecting Binnington being tripped with no call, and the goal against scored just after.

And also Binnington, inside the goal box, having a Cane shoving his head, blocking his view, and keeping him from reacting to a shot made just at the same time. The call on the ice was a good goal, because the refs thought a Blues player pushed Shmechnikov into Binnington.

Yes, Shmechnikov was pushed, but the slow motion shows that it wasn't really the impetus from that push that sent him into Binnington, it is clear that he directed his own new force towards Binnington. So, he actually SHOULD have been given a goaltender interference penalty, AND the goal should have been disallowed.
 
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f***ing bullshit, after the first 10 games where he was stuck with RoRs lazy ass he had been night and day better both offensively and defensively. You just don't like him so you are going to find any reason to slam him. Just like you will find any reason to slam anyone you don't like.
Well it’s hard to take you seriously when you call ROR lazy. He isn’t.
 
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Well finally got to watch the Canes 1st goal.

I can see why the Blues didn't challenge. That is such a borderline call.

#1 Goalie is entitled to his space. Binner is still in the crease, but his upper body is not in the plane of the crease.
#2 Svechnikov ( I think that was who it was) is entitled to his space too. What caused to make contact was him running into Parayko's skate. ( THOUGH he actually did contact Binnington before hitting Parayko's skate)
#3 I think Blues see Binner isn't completely in his crease. His left skate is in the crease, but the rest of body appears to not in the plane of the paint.

This is such a borderline call according to the rules right now, but I still would have challenge personally because I think personally it is goalie interference, My reasoning why it is goalie interference.

#1 Svechnikov contacts Binnington before his skates and Parayko make contact.
#2 Binner still is in his crease (part of his body the left skate)
#3 It clearly impedes his ability to get glove and blocker in proper spot.

I just think NHL needs to address goalie interference still. To me he clearly impeded Binnington ability to make the save as long as part of the goalie is in the crease, any contact should be no goal.
 
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Damn Jerks lol.

The Good:

- We chased away a goalie. That alone makes losing kind of okay for me.
- 6-4 with two of our goals on the PP. Bad loss but our PP is starting to click?

The Bad:
- Our blueline and defensive responsibility. What the hell?
- That's about it.

Chief, wtf man.
 

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The +/- is where the real tale is told for this team. Yikes.
So for examples just from tonight.

Goal 1: Binnington Hopchecked to the Head. Kyrou -1

ENG 1: Buchnevich Shoots the puck directly Into Canes Players, Canes player brings puck Back down ice Kyrou -1

So your telling me those are Kyrous fault? And they are proof of how utterly crap defensively?
 

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Well it’s hard to take you seriously when you call ROR lazy. He isn’t.
Kyrou fans are the new Elliott ones. Fitting that the Elliott trade led to him.

Kyrou is 100% a problem and just like Krug, has to be sheltered defensively. Both of those signings will be Army's undoing.

The +/- is where the real tale is told for this team. Yikes.
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amazing how shitty neighbours is in just 13 games. but krug and kyrou are on a WHOLE other level in terms of being one trick ponies.
 

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So for examples just from tonight.

Goal 1: Binnington Hopchecked to the Head. Kyrou -1

ENG 1: Buchnevich Shoots the puck directly Into Canes Players, Canes player brings puck Back down ice Kyrou -1

So your telling me those are Kyrous fault? And they are proof of how utterly crap defensively?
Oh not at all. I was remarking about the team's +/- in general like my response said. It's really bad and a lot of them are double digits. Let's be fair here, Kyrou has not been playing to his previous level and for this game he played well but I can point out other games this season where he was a liability. Was he the problem tonight? Oh hell not. Not in the least. He's getting better and I'm hoping that continues.
 

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Kyrou fans are the new Elliott ones. Fitting that the Elliott trade led to him.

Kyrou is 100% a problem and just like Krug, has to be sheltered defensively. Both of those signings will be Army's undoing.


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amazing how shitty neighbours is in just 13 games. but krug and kyrou are on a WHOLE other level in terms of being one trick ponies.
Ryan O’Reilly is the problem.
 
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Oh not at all. I was remarking about the team's +/- in general like my response said. It's really bad and a lot of them are double digits. Let's be fair here, Kyrou has not been playing to his previous level and for this game he played well but I can point out other games this season where he was a liability. Was he the problem tonight? Oh hell not. Not in the least. He's getting better and I'm hoping that continues.
My apologies to you bud. I agree there have been a lot of games where he's looked extremely bad defensively (mainly and especially the first 10-11 games of the season). The +/- of this team is getting ripped to shreds right now. But we've also allowed an unholy amount of ENGs as well. Which is also ripping the Blues (Berube needs to stop pulling the f***ing goalie)
 
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Ryan O’Reilly is the problem.
Yes he is a problem but the main problem is this team does not have the desire to play two way hockey. ROR is not having a good season but that does not excuse others like Schenn, Kyrou, Krug, Parayko from being losers as well.

Something bad happens and instead of digging in and recovering, they go to the corner and pout and cry like little babies. Bad coaching lately and that is not a good sign for Chief with the way they are playing, he is not helping them out at all. The only reason they even have as many wins as they do is mainly due to superb goaltending in those wins. Take away a fluke 3rd period and GDT by me vs FLA and this team would be on another massive losing streak.

Army deserves a ton of blame for constructing this mess.
 

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My apologies to you bud. I agree there have been a lot of games where he's looked extremely bad defensively (mainly and especially the first 10-11 games of the season). The +/- of this team is getting ripped to shreds right now. But we've also allowed an unholy amount of ENGs as well. Which is also ripping the Blues (Berube needs to stop pulling the f***ing goalie)
It's all good bro. And I agree, I don't get why Chief CONSTANTLY wants to pull the damn goalie.
 

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My apologies to you bud. I agree there have been a lot of games where he's looked extremely bad defensively (mainly and especially the first 10-11 games of the season). The +/- of this team is getting ripped to shreds right now. But we've also allowed an unholy amount of ENGs as well. Which is also ripping the Blues (Berube needs to stop pulling the f***ing goalie)
Heard the same sorry excuse for Shattenkirk having a crappy +-

IDK why people cannot admit that some people just SUCK defensively and that is who they are. They are one trick ponies. Nothing wrong with that but I certainly think its silly for a GM to give a one trick pony a 8+ million dollar contract.

Thomas contract will be fine, Kyrou's is going to handcuff this team for a decade.
 

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This makes about as much sense as your malpractice allegation against toro’s doctor. ROR got off to awful start but he has really picked up his game. He was probably our best player tonight.
Don’t be a homer. And I never alleged malpractice. You’re just making up shit, dood.

ROR has not picked up his game lately and he was not the best player tonight.

That alone says to me that you are not capable of honest insight.

O’Reilly is the problem.
 

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Damn Jerks lol.

The Good:

- We chased away a goalie. That alone makes losing kind of okay for me.
- 6-4 with two of our goals on the PP. Bad loss but our PP is starting to click?

The Bad:
- Our blueline and defensive responsibility. What the hell?
- That's about it.

Chief, wtf man.
i'm hesitant to think he was chased by the blues, raanta is frequently injured and was recently injured and not playing before thanksgiving, probably hurt himself again
 
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Heard the same sorry excuse for Shattenkirk having a crappy +-

IDK why people cannot admit that some people just SUCK defensively and that is who they are. They are one trick ponies. Nothing wrong with that but I certainly think its silly for a GM to give a one trick pony a 8+ million dollar contract.

Thomas contract will be fine, Kyrou's is going to handcuff this team for a decade.
If Tarasenko's contract didn't handcuff us Kyrou isnt going to handcuff us. We have a much bigger issue with Krugs Contract handcuffing us than Kyrou's.
 
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If Tarasenko's contract didn't handcuff us Kyrou isnt going to handcuff us. We have a much bigger issue with Krugs Contract handcuffing us than Kyrou's.
Tarasenko is a much better player defensively than Kyrou.
 

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i'm hesitant to think he was chased by the blues, raanta is frequently injured and was recently injured and not playing before thanksgiving, probably hurt himself again
That would be Blues Luck for sure.

Tarasenko is a much better player defensively than Kyrou.
Way it's going, Kyrou will be around a lot longer than him. Way Vladi is playing he's pretty much ready to go, too.
 

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If Tarasenko's contract didn't handcuff us Kyrou isnt going to handcuff us. We have a much bigger issue with Krugs Contract handcuffing us than Kyrou's.
*points up* This all day. For the money we spent on Krug, a player so good Boston didn't want back, we could have just signed [CENSORED] and thrown in an NTC. Yes, I said it.
 
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