Confirmed Trade: [MTL/VGK] David Schlemko for 2019 5th round pick

[MXD]

I prefer a 5th round pick than a 3rd pair D who is a 2.1M$.

I'm pretty sure the Habs prefer a 3rd pair D at a 2.1M caphit and one less fifth rounder than a 3rd pair D at a 4.1 M caphit (and no 3rd pair D).

 

[hockeyheadlines]

I prefer a 5th round pick than a 3rd pair D who is a 2.1M$.

If i am Vegas, i try to get most picks possible this create holes and i can get similar players or better at free agency + i need some holes for Sept-Oct since alot of good young players wont be exempt anymore on waiver.

I also want to not be strong to get a better lotery pick.

A 5th round pick is a lotery ticket that i prefer to a not young D who is a 3rd pair guy.

That lotery ticket can pay alot, doesnt matter when if i stock lots of them on every year.

2010 5th round=50% played NHl, 23% are good nhl players(Klingberg, Gallagher being the top)......most years its a 30-40% chances of an nhl guy and sometimes they end up being Hoffman, Jamie Benn, Muzzin but even if its just a Helm or Richardson i did a good deal. So i prefer the lotery ticket.

The only mistake Vegas made was maybe to not pick some guys with higher value to resell. But nothing dramatic because you get a 5th here, you sign a D in july who can give you a 3rd at the deadline is still better overall value at the end.

 

[Elche1975]

UFA's July first on D; Daley, Markov(you never know), Kulikov, Russell, Hainsey(gave a 2nd round pick at deadline), Alzner, B.Smith, Quincey, Wideman, Hunwick, Shattenkirk, Stone, Del Zotto, Franson, and the list goes on......

Vegas needs to create more holes to be in legitimate fights to get 1 or 2 extras free players for the deadline or for them for the years to come in the younger ones like Stone or Del Zotto.

IF i get a 7th for Emelin its an extra 7th and i can go all in on a better one then....who would refuse a 7th and Stone for Emelin?

 

[ryan callahan]

Schlemko is so underrated. I mean he's not great but he's better than Benn and miles ahead of Davidson.

 

[Harry22]

So we basically trade Emelin and a 5th for Schlemko. Save $2M on the cap. Thats two solid weeks for Bergevin.

 

[Figgy44]

Schlemko is a good addition to Montreal. Good 4/5 guy. Leaves more to be desired as a #4. Very good 3rd pairing guy.

Guy is also nasty on shootouts, though he rarely ever takes them.

I am very surprised he moved for a 5th.

 

[Donzo]

Really confused by this trade. At worst, Schlemko is an excellent #5 defenseman and arguably better than that. I'm just baffled if this is the best offer that Vegas got and don't know why they didn't just keep him. But props to Bergevin.

 

[bossram]

Really confused by this trade. At worst, Schlemko is an excellent #5 defenseman and arguably better than that. I'm just baffled if this is the best offer that Vegas got and don't know why they didn't just keep him. But props to Bergevin.

Agreed. Absolutely no clue what Vegas is doing on some of these flips.

Really? A 5th in two years for a guy who can slot in anywhere from your 4-6 slots and be a solid contributor?

Bergevin oscillates between extremely savvy and completely bonkers moves.

 

[hockeygoon15]

I prefer a 5th round pick than a 3rd pair D who is a 2.1M$.

If i am Vegas, i try to get most picks possible this create holes and i can get similar players or better at free agency + i need some holes for Sept-Oct since alot of good young players wont be exempt anymore on waiver.

I also want to not be strong to get a better lotery pick.

A 5th round pick is a lotery ticket that i prefer to a not young D who is a 3rd pair guy.

That lotery ticket can pay alot, doesnt matter when if i stock lots of them on every year.

2010 5th round=50% played NHl, 23% are good nhl players(Klingberg, Gallagher being the top)......most years its a 30-40% chances of an nhl guy and sometimes they end up being Hoffman, Jamie Benn, Muzzin but even if its just a Helm or Richardson i did a good deal. So i prefer the lotery ticket.

The only mistake Vegas made was maybe to not pick some guys with higher value to resell. But nothing dramatic because you get a 5th here, you sign a D in july who can give you a 3rd at the deadline is still better overall value at the end.

I hope, for the sake of the casinos, that you live in Vegas.

 

[KCC]

trade away their best defensive prospect, emelin gone and same with Nathan Beaulieu and you replace a depleted d-corp with Schlemko? I mean he's decent as a third pairing but man, they still need a ton of center depth, more offense and more defense. They're a long ways away.

 

[Anomie2029]

I liked Schlemko at the Sharks and was a little disappointed to see him picked up by Vegas. Wish him all the best in Montreal.

He is a great bottom pairing guy, but would be a useful 2nd pairing guy. He is a good puck mover, decent skater, and is the kind of player the Habs need on the back end IMO

 

[Rebels57]

Vegas could have selected Paul Martin and gotten a much better return in resell.

 

[CHaracter79]

trade away their best defensive prospect, emelin gone and same with Nathan Beaulieu and you replace a depleted d-corp with Schlemko? I mean he's decent as a third pairing but man, they still need a ton of center depth, more offense and more defense. They're a long ways away.

Well they added drouin to their forward corps and if they sign radulov and give chucky another shot I feel the offence would be much better then last year

We were eliminated because we couldn't score more then 2 goals a game, our defence was fine and it's the same corps minus emelin plus schlemko

Long term is another story

 

[radicalcenter]

Well they added drouin to their forward corps and if they sign radulov and give chucky another shot I feel the offence would be much better then last year

We were eliminated because we couldn't score more then 2 goals a game, our defence was fine and it's the same corps minus emelin and beaulieu plus schlemko and Jerabek

Long term is another story

Fixed it for you

 

[awfulwaffle]

I really like Schlemko. I'm in the minority of AZ fans here, as most hated him. If he can avoid turning the puck over he is a pretty solid d-man. Good trade for MTL.

 

[Muston Atthews]

So we basically trade Emelin and a 5th for Schlemko. Save $2M on the cap. Thats two solid weeks for Bergevin.

Drouin + Schlemko + 3rd for Sergaechev + Beaulieu + Emelin + 5th

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Drouin + Schlemko + 3rd for Sergaechev + Beaulieu + Emelin + 5th

We also signed Jerabek

 

[SnarkAttack]

What the **** is GMGM thinking? A 5th over any of those players left unprotected. I would have loved to keep him on the sharks for that price.

 

[Jee]

A 5th round pick for a cheap NHLer is decent!

 

[Elche1975]

I'm pretty sure the Habs prefer a 3rd pair D at a 2.1M caphit and one less fifth rounder than a 3rd pair D at a 4.1 M caphit (and no 3rd pair D).

I am a pro picks guy so i would rarely touch them unless you can add young asset at a good price.

Emelin was not a 3rd pair guy, he was even on their first pair for the biggest % of the year and did well at first with Weber for a while.

On a 2nd pair not against top's line he can do the job. Like Schlemko might do the job if he stays in the 16 minutes range against low lines.

When Vegas took Emelin, Bergevin should of waited for free agency simply and keep the pick, 4M$ extra is something good to bring something with more impact than Schlemko that's what im saying. Trades with further far draft pick happen often near the draft(where gm's are thinking more that picks are important and when they see what they could have for free in 1 week). Alot of better players were traded for way cheaper price than a 5th so for this too i am more ufa's first and be patient incase you get a better and/or younger asset at a better price but definitively at the moment i keep that 4M$ extra to go all in on a bigger player for free even if i have to overpay him a bit.

 

[Elche1975]

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We also signed Jerabek

Jerabek is not nhl caliber, he is awful dont count on this for a solution.

 

[CrypTic]

Would've taken him back in Jersey for a 4th.

I would've done the same for the Sharks. I like Schlemko.

This too:

What the **** is GMGM thinking? A 5th over any of those players left unprotected. I would have loved to keep him on the sharks for that price.

Not sure why GMGM took Schelmko if they were only going to flip him for a 5th.

 

[SirKillalot]

Surprised he didn't fetch a 3rd. He always seems to be good in regards to his positional play on the ice.

I thought he was going to be one of the keepers when VGK drafted him.

 

[hockeyheadlines]

Drouin + Schlemko + 3rd for Sergaechev + Beaulieu + Emelin + 5th

That looks even better this way. We traded a junior prospect for Drouin, got a third for a turd, lost Emelin plus a 5th for Schlemko. Not bad.

 

[Elche1975]

Vegas could have selected Paul Martin and gotten a much better return in resell.

I agree, draft, resell alot but alot of the picks were not the ones who could of bring the biggest return but at the end if he can get many free picks with the guys he drafted and make holes and sign more guys and keep some for the deadline(where the market is the best for getting picks) that team will be super strong if you add some years of good prospects with their own pick.

In many years we will look at their draft and see that a guy was a pick for a deal with average guys like TVR or Schlemko and whoever else they can trade and think wow what a return it was.

Also, like i said, imagine he signs a Daley and trade him at the deadline for a 2 and 3. That hole created here, that spot was a 2-3-5, what he is doing can pay alot but he needs to be agressive.