Proposal: Mtl & Van

ole ole

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Great we can do better than taking on a worse contract, like, we mine as well keep him than take on the less useful player that's signed longer. That literally makes zero sense.

Oh and if we did this deal the Habs would be adding, look at it from our POV for just a second, you'll see.

I understand that Boeser's value isn't high but this is a ridiculous proposal.


No thanks.
I don't blame you. The OP's proposal was bad especially for the Nucks.
 
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Nucklehead Supreme

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how about Caufield+Suzuki both at 50% retention and as a sweetner MTL 1st this year can that be enough for Boeser? at 100%
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Michel Beauchamp

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Mtl: Boeser
Van: Gallagher, Ylonen & 2nd Rnd pick
I know Vancouver is looking for cap space and Gallagher's salary and term won't help but added a top ten 2nd plus a decent prospect. Mtl adds a middle six player in Boeser with similar salary
From a Montréal fan for 60+ years:

WHAT?

Do they intend to get the Canucks GM drunk or kidnap the love of his life?
 

NewEraGM

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I’m a habs fans and saying that habs fans are out of their mind if they think they are getting Boeser for Gallagher and a 2nd (Ylonen is worthless)

Boeser is still good. I’m actually shocked to hear how many people think he’s worth nothing. He’s had a horrendous last year or 2 on and off the ice, he’s the classic player who could benefit so much from a change in scenery. It wasn’t too long ago this guys was becoming on the best young goal scorers in the league. Here’s my proposal and habs fans will not like it (and I’m a habs fan)

- Armia (same term left but 3M) cheaper
- MTL 2nd round pick 2023
- B prospect

Gallagher is a non starter for Vancouver.
 

RC51

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I rather get gonorrhoea than trade Boeser for Gallagher.
again for you, how many time now with you and gonorrhoea, what is that 6 or 7 times haahahahh. and why are you always getting the same std over and over again, for christ sake get a new girlfriend already.
 

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Lmao exactly my point:

“According to this Vancouver reporter, Romanov was offered to the Canucks, along with a draft pick and a hefty contract, to acquire Brock Boeser and bring him to Montreal.”

We don’t need another HEFT CONTRACT. That’s the whole point of us trading Boeser is to shed cap. We don’t need Galalgher’s awful contract
 
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McJedi

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This is likely our offer IMO. Something around that. Canucks can laugh at it if they wish but we are not trading futures for Boeser.
For once I agree with you. This is a more realistic take on Boeser’s value.

Gallagher is untradable so the OP must be high to think that offer is viable for Vancouver. It’s brutal.

But something like Armia and a short term dump contract would be a deal Vancouver should consider for Boeser.

It’s not an exciting deal by any stretch, arima is also overpaid by a lot and on a long term deal.

but where is the appeal in Vancouver paying Boeser $6.65mm thru 2025 and losing better players to UFA as a result.

Vancouver is stuck between a rock and a hard place with several contracts on their books. Boeser, Myers, Garland, OEL. Maybe a few more. Their GMs have made some lamentable decisions no other team is going to trade for without incentives to do so.

The incentive in your discussed offer is to remove Armia from the Habs books.
 
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Ligue

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Its a bad trade for the nucks. However, people are fooling themselves if they think that Gallgher contract doesn't end on LTIR sooner than later. Gallgher has LTIR written all over him.
 

Habs Halifax

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For once I agree with you. This is a more realistic take on Boeser’s value.

Gallagher is untradable so the OP must be high to think that offer is viable for Vancouver. It’s brutal.

But something like Armia and a short term dump contract would be a deal Vancouver should consider for Boeser.

It’s not an exciting deal by any stretch, arima is also overpaid by a lot and on a long term deal.

but where is the appeal in Vancouver paying Boeser $6.65mm thru 2025 and losing better players to UFA as a result.

Vancouver is stuck between a rock and a hard place with several contracts on their books. Boeser, Myers, Garland, OEL. Maybe a few more. Their GMs have made some lamentable decisions no other team is going to trade for without incentives to do so.

Thanks. I have gave you a hard time on Habs evaluations recently but I think that is due to exaggeration trap. We can't disagree on everything right? :sarcasm:

Skating is going to hold his value back. Boeser needs to play with a dominate center in order to get the best value and he is not producing to this cap hit for a younger player that is suppose to be improving.

Teams will offer similar disappointing players.

If the Habs offer Gallagher, we would likely have to offer a sweetener like Kidney (Grade B+ prospect at center producing very well in the Q). I don't see the Habs making this move though... even if Gallagher is going to be a anchor contract. Habs are in transition years and we can evaluate Gallagher at a later date.
 

Habs Halifax

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Its a bad trade for the nucks. However, people are fooling themselves if they think that Gallgher contract doesn't end on LTIR sooner than later. Gallgher has LTIR written all over him.

Gallagher has lots of energy left but he was never a great skater so his 30+ years don't stand up well for that contract. He still shows up each and every shift and brings a lot of energy. Just don't expect 30 goals anymore. If his AAV was $4M, he would not be devalued as much.

Only way I see the Canucks considering the Gallagher/Boeser swap is if the Habs add a sweetener. Someone like Kidney who is a B+ prospect producing very well in the Q. No way we are offering a 1st.

And for the record... Wait for some Habs fans to say hell no to trading Kidney. Other fans will think he is a spare part now too. Typical HF boards
 

McJedi

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Lmao exactly my point:

“According to this Vancouver reporter, Romanov was offered to the Canucks, along with a draft pick and a hefty contract, to acquire Brock Boeser and bring him to Montreal.”

We don’t need another HEFT CONTRACT. That’s the whole point of us trading Boeser is to shed cap. We don’t need Galalgher’s awful contract
Everyone knows the appeal to Vancouver is shedding Boeser’s hefty contract. But it takes two to make a trade. Why would any team be willing or happy to acquire Boeser’s hefty contract?
Thanks. I have gave you a hard time on Habs evaluations recently but I think that is due to exaggeration trap. We can't disagree on everything right? :sarcasm:

Skating is going to hold his value back. Boeser needs to play with a dominate center in order to get the best value and he is not producing to this cap hit for a younger player that is suppose to be improving.

Teams will offer similar disappointing players.

If the Habs offer Gallagher, we would likely have to offer a sweetener like Kidney (Grade B+ prospect at center producing very well in the Q). I don't see the Habs making this move though... even if Gallagher is going to be an anchor contract. Habs are in transition years and we can evaluate Gallagher at a later date.
Gallagher’s contract is far worse than trading a good but not amazing prospect like Kidney.

Gallagher’s contract isn’t realistically trade worthy. I agree with the poster that said he’ll go the same way as Price and Weber. He’s got LTIR written all over him. Get paid to not play.
 

Habs Halifax

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Everyone knows the appeal to Vancouver is shedding Boeser’s hefty contract. But it takes two to make a trade. Why would any team be willing or happy to acquire Boeser’s hefty contract?

Gallagher’s contract is far worse than trading a good but not amazing prospect like Kidney.

Gallagher’s contract isn’t realistically trade worthy. I agree with the poster that said he’ll go the same way as Price and Weber. He’s got LTIR written all over him. Get paid to not play.

I would consider the Galalgher and Kidney for Boeser trade. Kidney is putting up some real impressive numbers but he projects like a prospect that has humbling pro seasons to me. I know his game very well. Needs to improve skating and physical strength and so many of these types bust or disappoint.

I would have Kidney's rated as B+ where some would rate him grade A for his Q stats. I have more hope with J Roy and Farrell

Habs are in transition years and it's possible Gallagher turns into a buyout contract for the last two seasons. I see the Habs in a few more transition years but it's not Gallagher's entire contract so that last 2 years might be an issue to our cap. Boeser has less term
 

McJedi

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I would consider the Galalgher and Kidney for Boeser trade. Kidney is putting up some real impressive numbers but he projects like a prospect that has humbling pro seasons to me. I know his game very well. Needs to improve skating and physical strength and so many of these types bust or disappoint.

I would have Kidney's rated as B+ where some would rate him grade A for his Q stats.

Habs are in transition years and it's possible Gallagher turns into a buyout contract for the last two seasons. I see the Habs in a few more transition years but it's not Gallagher's entire contract so that last 2 years might be an issue to our cap. Boeser has less term
Gallagher is a LTIR or buyout. That’s not a contract any team would trade for without much bigger incentives than Kidney. Hopefully it’s insured.

I doubt I could find 5 worse contracts in the NHL than Gallagher’s. You’re paying that guy $6.5mm thru June 2027. Holy smokes.

With Boeser, it would have been smarter for Vancouver to have given him his qualifying offer, which was like $7.5mm? for one year. They could have retained 50% and traded him as a rental in a month or so. The three year term was a stupid mistake by the GM.
 

Habs Halifax

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Gallagher is a LTIR or buyout. That’s not a contract any team would trade for without much bigger incentives than Kidney. Hopefully it’s insured.

I doubt I could find 5 worse contracts in the NHL than Gallagher’s. You’re paying that guy $6.5mm thru June 2027. Holy smokes.

With Boeser, it would have been smarter for Vancouver to have given him his qualifying offer, which was like $7.5mm? for one year. They could have retained 50% and traded him as a rental in a month or so. The three year term was a stupid mistake by the GM.

Canucks are one of those teams who had a good young core to build around but messed up their transition years. It's the biggest trap GM's make and they want to go from rebuilder to contender to quickly. They get antsy.

Never trade futures during transition years. It's premature. Never say never so I'll say, be very careful
 
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Peen

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Jesus, people actually think gallagher and a B grade asset is a fair swap

OEL and a 2nd for Dvorak!
 
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