Proposal: MTL - NYR

[pld459666]

If he can play RW, he seems like a decent fit for 3rd line RW opposite Lafreniere.

I like Kravtsov, and would welcome him back into the fold, but if he's a goner, NYR will not get a better player one for one.

 

[Legend123]

A man can dream

 

[Mersss]

Do you think the problem might be the NYR? He might be brought in and end up with the same chart as the rest of them.

Anyway, I don't hate the idea of bringing him but I'd probably prefer just giving up a second and mid prospect. If Montreal wants more maybe another team comes into play to trade with them. I'd prefer a bigger trade involving Krav.

Habs have no reason to trade Lekh for what would be a very late 2nd and a meh prospect when he's still under control and has a 2.3M$ QO. None whatsoever

 

[HuGort]

To Montreal Canadiens : Vitaly Kravtsov.
To New York Rangers : Artturi Lehkonen.

Do you think that's it's fair for both teams?

Rangers be drafting around 30th. I would ask for a first pick? Lets was pretty good for us in playoffs last year. Has year of control left, Habs no rush to deal him. Can bring him back reasonable salary

 

[DanielBrassard]

Lehkonen is a great play driver and the Rangers could certainly use that, however I'm not sure I would feel comfortable giving up more than a 2nd+decent prospect.

 

[One Winged Angel]

The Rangers need a top-6 winger more than they need Lehkonen.

Sure, he’d help, but he’s not worth moving Kravtsov for.

I doubt the Rangers would do this.

 

[Overrateprospects]

To Montreal Canadiens : Vitaly Kravtsov.
To New York Rangers : Artturi Lehkonen.

Do you think that's it's fair for both teams?

I’m not sure Gorton will want him and his crybaby routine will not work in a savage media market like Montreal. I’m not sure I would want a reminder of one of the biggest busts I ever drafted. I would assume if they make a deal it’s a pick for him

 

[kp61c]

kravtsov is a bust. i'd keep Lehkonen

 

[Captain97]

If he can play RW, he seems like a decent fit for 3rd line RW opposite Lafreniere.

I like Kravtsov, and would welcome him back into the fold, but if he's a goner, NYR will not get a better player one for one.

Lehkonen played a ton of right wing before we acquired a ton of right handed winger.

His best year production wise I believe was on his off wing for a good chunk of the year.

 

[TGWL]

Habs have no reason to trade Lekh for what would be a very late 2nd and a meh prospect when he's still under control and has a 2.3M$ QO. None whatsoever

I didn't say they did. Rangers don't really have a reason to offer more than that.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Things are so cap tight next year that we can’t bring Lekonnen on without someone like Lindgren leaving, so no. If that wasn’t the case I believe straight up for Kravtsov is fair

 

[pld459666]

Lehkonen played a ton of right wing before we acquired a ton of right handed winger.

His best year production wise I believe was on his off wing for a good chunk of the year.

Then playing him with Panarin and Strome may get him back to his 15+ goal production levels.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Do you think the problem might be the NYR? He might be brought in and end up with the same chart as the rest of them.

Anyway, I don't hate the idea of bringing him but I'd probably prefer just giving up a second and mid prospect. If Montreal wants more maybe another team comes into play to trade with them. I'd prefer a bigger trade involving Krav.

It might be, but Lehkonen has generally been a decent 5v5 player. The Habs 5v5 underlying numbers are also garbage this year and Lehkonen has been orders of magnitude better than the rest of the team.

A 2nd and a mid prospect might do it as well, tbh I'd probably prefer it, but I don't think Kravstov is all that exciting and based on what I've read from New York insiders, it doesn't sound like his value is much more than a 2nd anyways.

Habs don't need to trade him either, so there's likely a floor to a trade they'd accept.

 

[Benstheman]

Position and minutes.

No one has ever said, "If I can just get those 14 minutes of ice time settled, we're in business."

2nd pairing D on the other hand..

Also, say two different clubs trade for Lehkonen and Chiarot. If GM-A is wrong about Chiarot, he's totally screwed, while if he's right, he hit a jackpot. GM-B with Lehkonen? He could be wrong and Lehk could totally suck it up, but it won't really sink the club due to positional and usage impact.

Also depends on what they pay for each player.

 

[Benstheman]

Even if he is not a top 6 player, Lehkonen is a pretty useful bottom 6 player who can contribute offensively (even though people think he should produce more for the scoring opportunities he gets). Coaches love this kind of players and teams are ready to pay for those kind of assets at trade deadline. I think his real worth is somewhere between an early 2nd and a mid-late 2nd + B prospect. That being said, Lehkonen is a former 2nd rounder who developped well above the average 2nd rounder in the NHL and is still under team control at decant salary. So i don't see Habs trading him except for what would be an overpayment, which screams late 1st imho.

And only a team seeing Lehkonen as the missing piece for their cup run would be ok with paying a 1st for him (like Savard last year).That being said, i don't think Lehkonen would be the primary kind of acquisition for NYR. So i don't think NYR would pay a late 1st for him. Not a good fit. But i could be wrong.

 

[dumpin]

If he can play RW, he seems like a decent fit for 3rd line RW opposite Lafreniere.

I like Kravtsov, and would welcome him back into the fold, but if he's a goner, NYR will not get a better player one for one.

When the season is over in Russia bring him back and plug him in the 3rd or 4th line. Dont make another ADA mistake.

 

[bernmeister]

When the season is over in Russia bring him back and plug him in the 3rd or 4th line. Dont make another ADA mistake.

No. Give him legit shot sufficient mins 1st line. If he has legit 9OA talent after sufficient minimal time to get bearings/start develop chemistry, he should be able to cut that.

 

[ole ole]

No. Give him legit shot sufficient mins 1st line. If he has legit 9OA talent after sufficient minimal time to get bearings/start develop chemistry, he should be able to cut that.

So who is he Bumping on RW?

 

[pld459666]

When the season is over in Russia bring him back and plug him in the 3rd or 4th line. Dont make another ADA mistake.

I'm in no rush to move him and actually hope that he will be a NYR going forward, but if that is NOT going to happen, getting a useful asset out of this is ideal.

 

[tinyzombies]

It might be, but Lehkonen has generally been a decent 5v5 player. The Habs 5v5 underlying numbers are also garbage this year and Lehkonen has been orders of magnitude better than the rest of the team.

A 2nd and a mid prospect might do it as well, tbh I'd probably prefer it, but I don't think Kravstov is all that exciting and based on what I've read from New York insiders, it doesn't sound like his value is much more than a 2nd anyways.

Habs don't need to trade him either, so there's likely a floor to a trade they'd accept.

Lehkonen had the fourth best xGA in the league last I checked. Even on THIS team. He's expensive for a bottom six defensive winger, but he's definitely valuable.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

As a Rangers fan, i would give up one of our 2nds for him all day.

Putting Lehkonen with goodrow is creating a true shutdown 3rd line. Hes basically jesper fast but younger.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

When the season is over in Russia bring him back and plug him in the 3rd or 4th line. Dont make another ADA mistake.

The situation with Kravtsov is hardly akin to the one with ADA.

 

[bernmeister]

So who is he Bumping on RW?

obv, he can take turns relieving Kreider or Panarin while Zib pivots, and if Krav were also able to cut the mustard [this early, I mean, as I expect eventually yes he can] then he can C and Zib is in the rotation. Just to be clear, this does not mean you don't play your top guys. It means one of them gets bumped down to 2nd line, which bumps a guy down to 3rd, etc.

 

[ole ole]

obv, he can take turns relieving Kreider or Panarin while Zib pivots, and if Krav were also able to cut the mustard [this early, I mean, as I expect eventually yes he can] then he can C and Zib is in the rotation. Just to be clear, this does not mean you don't play your top guys. It means one of them gets bumped down to 2nd line, which bumps a guy down to 3rd, etc.

Than where does Laf fit in? You think Laf will be happy playing on the 4th line. You haven't stop crying about Krav not getting proper ice time and linemates and now you want to do the same to Laf.

 

[Mersss]

As a Rangers fan, i would give up one of our 2nds for him all day.

Putting Lehkonen with goodrow is creating a true shutdown 3rd line. Hes basically jesper fast but younger.

And Habs arent trading their best defensive forward for a mere 2nd rd pick. 1st rd pick, or something of similar value