Confirmed Trade: [MTL/EDM] Brandon Davidson for David Desharnais (20% Retained)

[Captain Fantastic]

Nearly 900 posts on this trade. WTH?..

 

[Old Boys Club]

Nearly 900 posts on this trade. WTH?..

It involves some of HF's favorite topics:

-Chia sucks
-Edmuntun amirite XDD
-A lot of Habs fans have wanted DD gone for years

 

[PuckSeparator]

I think you must have been a diehard subban fan because i fail to see any mistakes. Ie. Radulov, danault, davidson for desharnais etc.

Radulov fell into his lap as he was going to play in MTL no matter what, hardly deserves any credit for that one. Remains to be seen about Davidson but the reports aren't very positive that he can be a contributor.

About the mistakes: gave MT a 4 year extension, gave DD a 4 year extension, generous extension and money to plugs but plays hard ball with his franchise player, traded Eller for yet another generously stupid contract in Shaw (more or less), has kept his vets to the point they are becoming useless with each passing game (Plekanac, and Markov to a smaller degree), and has turned a good and exciting team with a bright future into an old and slow team that has basically nothing coming up in the pipeline.

With trading PK and keeping Therrien (both related), he has effectively set the franchise back to being much worse than what he was given at the start. That to me is a fireable offense.

 

[Drydenwasthebest]

I can understand my fellow Habs' fans frustration with Bergevin, at this point. He chose his "foxhole kind of guy" Therrien over Subban, and has not managed to make any significant trades to improve this club's ability to score goals in the middle of a playoff run when our biggest problem is scoring goals. Vanek went for a 3rd and a plug. Bergevin should have been able to get Vanek. Lazar went for little enough that Bergevin should have been able to get him. What did we get? A 7th defenceman with potential, and 3 guys to lay on the 4th line or in the minors. Dwight King and Steve Ott are not going to join our top 6 and improve our goal scoring woes significantly...if at all. This has been a disappointment, overall, today.

I am starting to lose faith in Bergevin even more than when he screwed us out of Subban. Still, I am hopeful that we will make a solid Cup run...mostly because I am a diehard...and possibly an idiot. Sigh....

 

[Peanut]

Wow Oilers gonna Oiler!

Thank you so much PC you da real McMVP!

 

[THall4]

Actually yes they are. They took a guy from the press box and turned him into a depth center which they needed.

Just like the Hall Larsson trade, where everyone laughed, but the Oilers improved in every way, shape and form becasue of that trade, due to filling a hole. Now of course, this trade is just a depth move so it wont have nearly the same impact.

So many people here spend too much time looking at the player and not understanding the role or team makeup. Its a very low risk move (for both teams), and the reward for the Oilers is getting a guy to fill a hole in the lineup who gets a fresh start and who will be motivated to improve his rep around the league before heading to UFA.

hahah

Habs fans don't understand that Davidson was our 4th best LHD. He was not playing over Klefbom, Sekera and Nurse..or Benning for the matter. So like Cawz just said...we took a press box player and someone who, if we kept, was gonna get claimed by Vegas and turned it into a rental 3C.

Again, people acting like we gave the Habs the 2nd coming of Petry....Davidson is a dime a dozen 3rd pairing LHD...hes just beloved by Oiler fans because of his coming up story and the fact that hes a later round pick the organization developed the right way.

 

[McDNicks17]

I think Chia's main plan here was getting a rental, but also setting up Pouliot as the expansion draft target.

If LV takes Pouliot(which I think they have to seriously consider since it'd be him or some AHL players), it frees up $5.5M next season and the season after with Pouliot and Davidson's salaries off the books.

 

[Raspewtin]

Uh

EDM wyd.....

 

[Aceboogie]

Uh

EDM wyd.....

Davidson was #7 D who had potential to be lost in the expansion draft (TSN insiders had him being taken). Instead of letting Davidson watch games from the PB and then potentially be claimed for nothing, they cahsed in while they could and addressed a position of need even if just a short fix

The Oilers are flush with defensive depth and have yet another LHD coming up the pipe who could replace Davidson. 20 points in 29 AHL games, AHL all star, averaged 20 mins in the NHL last year for 17 games

 

[Natey]

He has been less than 50% the last two years. If the oilers want to win faceoffs they should recall anton lander who is a proven 55% plus guy,.

He was playing with a shoulder injury. When he was healthy he was above 50%.

He's really good at tying up the puck if your wingers can get in there and toss it to the point.

 

[Natey]

Wow Oilers gonna Oiler!

Thank you so much PC you da real McMVP!

They have two points less than Montreal....

 

[Del Preston]

DD will wear #13 for the Oilers. I assume he'll be playing on HNIC this Saturday.

 

[ManofSteel55]

While I agree with all that you've said, I can't be convinced that there wasn't another #3 C out there who would also be exposed in expansion and thus available. I don't really see the benefit of DD.

The benefit is that he is a rental, which could push Vegas to taking a guy that Chiarelli and Mclellan don't seem to be fans of (Pouliot).

 

[ManofSteel55]

If DD was placed on waivers no one would claim him.

Very confusing, but he won't play very long in EDM so I guess it is a nothing move.

I have a hard time believing that DD wouldn't have been claimed on waivers.

 

[HuGort]

Bad deal for us, but hope DD can turn it around. To Habs fans, I want honest opinions, not just adjectives. What do you like, and what do you dislike about DD?

About Davidson: Solid, consistent. Not spectacular, but a good, dependable defenceman, no weaknesses, good but not great at everything.

Also, a fan favourite.

DD can be a good #3 center. Good trade for both teams

 

[Drydenwasthebest]

Davidson was #7 D who had potential to be lost in the expansion draft (TSN insiders had him being taken). Instead of letting Davidson watch games from the PB and then potentially be claimed for nothing, they cahsed in while they could and addressed a position of need even if just a short fix

The Oilers are flush with defensive depth and have yet another LHD coming up the pipe who could replace Davidson. 20 points in 29 AHL games, AHL all star, averaged 20 mins in the NHL last year for 17 games

Well, with Desharnais it is definitely a "short" fix... (Sorry, I am a horrid comedian, but could not resist).


If you put DD on a third line with some bruisers, he will help your team score because he will play against weaker opposition. If you play him as a top 6 center, you will be very disappointed. It is not a bad move on the Oilers' part.

It is a move that might help the Habs, too. We get a young depth defenceman who might help us if we get into injury difficulty, and he might get claimed by LV, saving a different plater from our team.

In short this is a "win-win" since DD is a UFA. I do wish I could hear oilerbear come on and tell us how Davidson is better than Subban, again, though, so my fellow Habs' fans would feel much better about this deal...lol Come on, OILERBEAR, please post all those stats about how Davidson is better than Subban so we can all know the Habs got a top pairing defenceman for DD!!!!

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Oilers should put him with Pouliot, they had some success in Montreal when DD first game in the league.

Throw another bigger winger like Kassian and he'll be fine as low as his minutes are limited.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

I hope people who are slamming the trade realize that Davidson is the Oilers #7.

Klefbom-Larsson
Sekera-Russell
Nurse-Benning
Davidson-Gryba

I don't like the trade because DD is an underwhelming player and this exposes somebody else to Vegas but Davidson was just a depth Dman for the Oilers who was only playing because of the injury to Nurse. He's solid but easily expendable.

And for those who saying lol Chiarelli sucks at trades. How about Maroon, Talbot and Kassian for virtually nothing? Larsson has been a big boost to the defense so please with the Chia sucks at trades rhetoric. The Reinhart deal is the only black mark on his record.

You're one injury away from having Gryba playing in your top 6, defensive depth is always important near the end of the season/playoffs.

 

[MakeTheGoalsLarger]

Radulov fell into his lap as he was going to play in MTL no matter what, hardly deserves any credit for that one.

someone sees the glass half empty

 

[MakeTheGoalsLarger]

I have a hard time believing that DD wouldn't have been claimed on waivers.

He would have been claimed by the Oilers me thinks.


But seriously, DD got complacent. In a new environnement, he could go on a hot streak , that would make it a win win trade. Just don't resign him.

 

[tempest2i]

You're one injury away from having Gryba playing in your top 6, defensive depth is always important near the end of the season/playoffs.

Gryba has been in and out of the lineup all season. He's not terrible in small doses, heck he even has a GWG this year!

I'm not sure if you're aware, but Davidson played the left side and Gryba plays the right. So really, if you wanted to insult the Oilers blueline depth, you should have said that they were one injury away from having Griffin Reinhart in your top 6. Which is actually more accurate now that Davidson is gone.

 

[MXD]

No, because if you make mistakes and you fail to fix them for too long they will inevitably destroy you.

See the Habs this year; old, slow, get shutout every other game, and are just poorly built and sad all around outside of a ridiculous and unsustainable start.

They need a full rebuild, and that's due to Marc Bergevin and Marc Bergevin only.

Haaa....

When something doesn't fit your narrative : it's unsustainable
When something fits your narrative : it's sustainable.

Gotcha.

 

[Knave]

Desharnais at 3.5 or 2.8... if that's your main complaint about your team - IDK.

Montreal fans didn't like Therrien who seemed to really like Desharnais.

I don't really get this beyond shipping out a player who was essentially hated by a large but vocal minority in Montreal. Edmonton might as well gamble if the price is that low.

 

[EDMOilers1984]

I dont get how people can say this? Takes a bottom feeder and turns it into a playoff team.

People make me laugh. For the last 11 years we've watched this team basically crumble......We had the rebuild around gagner and cogliano, then we had the rebuild around hall, eberle, nugent hopkins, MPS, yak (just to name a handful), and then McJesus is blessfully handed t us. Everyone is talking about potential potential potential.....All these players came from winning in juniors to a team that had no idea what winning in the NHL meant.....

DD was brought in for experience in playoffs. same with Lucic (although a price tage came with that) We're finally going to make a push for the post season and all anyone can do is complain about the moves chiarelli made......UM hello, MACT and Kevin Lowe, did everyone forget??????
The DD trade was a good deal...no ifs ands or buts...........It's too bad Lander can't translate what he's doing in the A in the NHL.....

do we want another year after year of collapsing because we have "prospects" to develop?

Stop complaining and finally soak it in that we may be watching hockey in May for the first time in 11 years!!!!

 

[Treb]

Desharnais at 3.5 or 2.8... if that's your main complaint about your team - IDK.

Montreal fans didn't like Therrien who seemed to really like Desharnais.

I don't really get this beyond shipping out a player who was essentially hated by a large but vocal minority in Montreal. Edmonton might as well gamble if the price is that low.

He was not good enough for our top-6 and pretty much useless in our bottom 6. 3.5M is pretty expensive for a spare part.