Laine also can’t stay healthy.
Aren’t both related? The guy can’t stay healthy, has dependencies and just got out of rehab and is paid like a star 1st line forward.
One is is a reasonable course of action explained transparently.
But is it? I personally couldn't care less about Laine and I don't think he would be a fit on my team but if you think his prior health and addiction issues on top of his weird main character ego and high cap hit shouldn't be taken into consideration when discussing a potential issue for the player just because it "hurts" his value then I would argue that you're in denial more than anyone would fall into your category "2"
So you're in the camp of you don't want the player? Cool by me. I'm confused.
Yep, I am. Not worth the headaches and cap hit.
OK so I said in my first post on the topic that that was fine by me.
To be clear, he does not have addiction issues or dependency issues as I've seen in your last two posts. He is in the PAP for mental health due to several issues (injury, loss of father, injury and did I say injury). This risk with Laine at this point is whether he's into playing hockey or not and can he avoid injury. Many of his injuries are not soft tissue. His Cap hit isn't able to be a fit for all teams but his character and overall play should no longer be questioned if you watched, at all, when he played in Columbus. So the facts you can point to are his recent injury history and whether he's mentally healthy. We should know about the mental health any day now and the injuries... that's the risk. If he's back to his shooting self and continues to play his improved overall game... $8.7 AAV for 2 years won't be scoffed at. If not, it's a challenge (but at least only 2 years) and that's what a GM needs to decide when taking him on.
Only if Waddell refuses to retain. I really think if there's the ability to retain, offering up Laine at 4-6M/season for the next two years would have a good chunk of the league making offers.
Dude. Montreal is rebuilding. Why would they ever give up a top 3 goalie prospect for Laine exactly? We need more prospects like Fowler not less.I mean Laine would fit great in MTL with Slaf and Dach
What would CLB wants for Laine.
I mean there is not much we have that CLB wants i guess.
CLB D it stacked , Center line is awesome.
Could one of the best Goalie prospect in the NHL be a good start
MTL : Fowler
for
CLB : Laine (30% retained)
Top 20 drafted NHL goalie prospects ranking: Wallstedt, Askarov lead Wheeler’s summer 2024 list
Full scouting reports for Wheeler's top 20 goalie prospects in the league.www.nytimes.com
Everytime I hear the battle cry on HF how said player has no value or is a negative contract, I question the average age on this site.
A good rule of thumb is if you had a still young player who has scored 44 goals and even in his three years that everyone seems to shit on, he's had 56 points in 56 games. 52 in 55 and 9 in 18 and that's during tumultuous times where most Jackets struggled. If the jackets are motivated to move him and retain a million, based on 204 goals, 380 points in 480 games and locked up in his prime with a rising cap I'd say is value is a lot more than people think. TBF, I value production over magic beans and think prospects a currency and highly overrated on this site.
While I disagree that's "basically what Suzuki does" I do think Laine is being horribly undervalued here. I'd be all over him if the offer made sense for both sides. I'm not totally sure what exactly Columbus needs, so I won't make any proposal.
We could still use an experienced second-pairing-or-better shutdown blueliner to shelter the kids as they grow up, but I don't think Montreal has one of those and the closest rough equivalent (Savard) is presumably still needed there given y'all's own blueline youth.
Dach would be better center for Laine than Suzuki.
That proposal is only bit better than Anderson + Martin St. Louis' autographed photo.
Yeah that's a bit of a tough one for us. It'd be better to keep Savard for at least half the year. I doubt Savard+ even gets close for your side either, right? We likely don't have what you'd be wanting.
I think we'll pass on that, thanks.Yeah that's a bit of a tough one for us. It'd be better to keep Savard for at least half the year. I doubt Savard+ even gets close for your side either, right? We likely don't have what you'd be wanting.
Can I interest you in some scraps instead?
And Laine is not worth more than that either. Not at 8.7M, not with his track record and MH issues. At the end of the day any tram acquiring him will be sending salary along.Dach would be better center for Laine than Suzuki.
That proposal is only bit better than Anderson + Martin St. Louis' autographed photo.
At $600,000 per goal, Columbus probably takes this and runs. Laine has no value. Exactly why he hasn’t been traded this summer.I mean Laine would fit great in MTL with Slaf and Dach
What would CLB wants for Laine.
I mean there is not much we have that CLB wants i guess.
CLB D it stacked , Center line is awesome.
Could one of the best Goalie prospect in the NHL be a good start
MTL : Fowler
for
CLB : Laine (30% retained)
Top 20 drafted NHL goalie prospects ranking: Wallstedt, Askarov lead Wheeler’s summer 2024 list
Full scouting reports for Wheeler's top 20 goalie prospects in the league.
If he is a bad asset, why do you (not you personally) want him? To get rid of your bad contract and take part of his salary? Waddell said Patrik will only traded if an offer comes in that management is happy with. If not, he'll start in Columbus.
