Proposal: MTL & CGY

[crackdown44]

Trade doesn’t make sense for either team and is somehow bad for both

10/10 good job

 

[Rob Sense]

Mailloux Draft +1 and +2 combined:
71 games, 62 points, +22

Brzustewicz Draft +1:
67 games, 92 points, +31

In their pre draft as prospects you may have been right, but Brzustewicz just had a more impressive season than any of Mailloux’s 3 years since his draft, and appears to have built off it with his extremely strong play this pre-season so far.

Not an accurate comparison, Mailloux missed a lot of games due to covid and suspension. His development was stalled. He has caught up and had a great year in AHL...who is Bustewicz? Time will tell.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Not an accurate comparison, Mailloux missed a lot of games due to covid and suspension. His development was stalled. He has caught up and had a great year in AHL...who is Bustewicz? Time will tell.

The point is OP said Mailloux is better than Brzustewicz, which is pretty baseless. Bruz will be making his AHL debut this season and we will have a much better outlook on how they compare to each other but as it stands right now one is not clearly better than the other. The person you responded to did not say Bruz was better but that numbers in junior definitely favor him.

 

[Rob Sense]

The point is OP said Mailloux is better than Brzustewicz, which is pretty baseless. Bruz will be making his AHL debut this season and we will have a much better outlook on how they compare to each other but as it stands right now one is not clearly better than the other. The person you responded to did not say Bruz was better but that numbers in junior definitely favor him.

I completely understood what these posters said and i added some nuance to the straight stat comparison. As i clearly said...time will tell so we are in agreement.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Rebuild is over, let's try to upgrade where we can.

Mailloux is a great player but with Reinbacher, Bodgan, Savard and with Anderson we can spare him.

Then #20 2025 + Mesar are what CGY needs for a rebuild.

I would even try to get Kadri in a bigger deal.

MTL : Mailloux + CGY first + Mesar + Dvorak + Pezz
for
CGY : Anderson + Kadri

A rebuild is over when the team show you the rebuild is over.

 

[viceroy]

Mailloux is a great player but with Reinbacher, Bodgan, Savard and with Anderson we can spare him.

His name's BOGDAN Konyushkov. I don't want to this to turn into another Tij Ignila situation.

 

[Bond]

His name's BOGDAN Konyushkov. I don't want to this to turn into another Tij Ignila situation.

Hey, give Jarmoe Inigla his proper respect here lol

 

[McJedi]

they wouldn't - and this isn't a deal they're making. If anything, they're looking for more firepower up front and probably trying to dump either Evans or Dvorak if Kaponen keeps playing like he did last night

Can Dvorak PK? Any good at it?

What would you say to a swap of Dvorak for Ross Colton? Hockey trade.

We are not going to give this package for Andersons.

LOL. Calgary isn't going to accept that lousy package from the Habs for Rasmus Andersson.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Can Dvorak PK? Any good at it?

What would you say to a swap of Dvorak for Ross Colton? Hockey trade.


LOL. Calgary isn't going to accept that lousy package from the Habs for Rasmus Andersson.

no thx...that contract won't work on the habs with beck and kapanen coming.
We don't need 3 years of Colton.
Can resign Evan's for less.

Yes he can PK.
you can have him for a pick

 

[nyhabsfan]

I think CGY says no for two reasons:
1. They already have Parekh and Brzustewicz on the right side.
2. They want a blue chip back, not a couple B level prospects.

Massive overpay by Montreal ... no interested!

 

[hockeyguy0022]

Should be a trade for a young centerman

Calgary has more "might be great, might be ahl" wingers then they know what to do with, and defence is also look very good in the prospect poo.

They need 3-4 young promising centerman

 

[HuGort]

MTL : Mailloux + Mesar + CGY first 2025
for
CGY : R, Anderson

Too much from Montreal. Mailloux alone is plenty. He's going to be good

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Too much from Montreal. Mailloux alone is plenty. He's going to be good

Did you just say Mailloux alone is worth Andersson? Lmao

 

[26Mats]

I think CGY says no for two reasons:
1. They already have Parekh and Brzustewicz on the right side.
2. They want a blue chip back, not a couple B level prospects.

Mailloux has a lot of potential.

As a Habs fan I lean towards no for this trade. Anderson is great. But the priority should still be the youth. Ideally we move Matheson because he's an LD and then use the assets plus add something to get an RD like Anderson. And in so doing, we don't lose Guhle, Reinbacher, Hutson, Xhekaj, or Mailloux. Better to wait until we can get a deal like that for an RD, or sign one in free agency.

We'll see if Calgary ends up getting a better prospect or pick than Mailloux. Too early to tell the market.

 

[FLAMESFAN]

Teams will be lining up for Anderson. If all we got was Mailloux, I'd be pretty disappointed.

 

[HuGort]

Did you just say Mailloux alone is worth Andersson? Lmao

Basically, he's another Sergechev or McDonogh

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Basically, he's another Sergechev or McDonogh

Delusional. Mailloux is entering his D+4 season and has a total of 1 NHL game played. He's not even expected to make the NHL this season on one of the weakest blue lines in the league.

By the start of Sergachev's D+4 season he had already played 158 NHL games with 72 points, and was averaging 18 minutes a night.

Mailloux's rookie season in the AHL was barely better than Poirier's. Would you do even trade Matheson for Poirier?

 

[HuGort]

Delusional. Mailloux is entering his D+4 season and has a total of 1 NHL game played. He's not even expected to make the NHL this season on one of the weakest blue lines in the league.

By the start of Sergachev's D+4 season he had already played 158 NHL games with 72 points, and was averaging 18 minutes a night.

Mailloux's rookie season in the AHL was barely better than Poirier's. Would you do even trade Matheson for Poirier?

Mailloux missed ton of time to suspend and COVID. Not interested moving Mailloux. He could be homerun. Great shot, size, Mobil.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Mailloux missed ton of time to suspend and COVID. Not interested moving Mailloux. He could be homerun. Great shot, size, Mobil.

That's totally fine that you like him and don't want to move him but hoping he will be a home run and expecting him to be a 1st pairing guy that will put up 50+ points are two entirely different things.

I'm high on Hunter Brzustewicz but I don't expect him to be as good as Sergachev. Could he? Sure but definitely not guaranteed.

 

[HuGort]

That's totally fine that you like him and don't want to move him but hoping he will be a home run and expecting him to be a 1st pairing guy that will put up 50+ points are two entirely different things.

I'm high on Hunter Brzustewicz but I don't expect him to be as good as Sergachev. Could he? Sure but definitely not guaranteed.

Not interested in moving Mailloux.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Not interested in moving Mailloux.

Great, I'm glad we cleared that up instead of your outrageous claim earlier. For the record I don't think it would be wise for Montreal to pursue Andersson anyways. The majority of his value comes in his cheap contract and Montreal is no where near cap strapped. They also won't be contending in the next 2 seasons before he would need a raise.

 

[HuGort]

Great, I'm glad we cleared that up instead of your outrageous claim earlier. For the record I don't think it would be wise for Montreal to pursue Andersson anyways. The majority of his value comes in his cheap contract and Montreal is no where near cap strapped. They also won't be contending in the next 2 seasons before he would need a raise.

Trading young D with huge upside rarely work out for the good.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Trading young D with huge upside rarely work out for the good.

Circumstantial. It also depends on how high that upside is vs how close that team is to competing. For example the list of players Alexander Nikishin would be available for probably doesn't go far past Celebrini, regardless of how close they are. Whereas someone like Tom Willander in Vancouver, or Tanner Molendyk in Nashville could absolutely be made available for a player that puts their roster over the top.

Defense generally don't peak until their mid 20's so if your window is now it would be foolish to make an under 21 defenseman that isn't considered top 10 in the league off limits. Montreal's window obviously isn't now so the logic in trading someone like Mailloux is pretty low

 

[HuGort]

Circumstantial. It also depends on how high that upside is vs how close that team is to competing. For example the list of players Alexander Nikishin would be available for probably doesn't go far past Celebrini, regardless of how close they are. Whereas someone like Tom Willander in Vancouver, or Tanner Molendyk in Nashville could absolutely be made available for a player that puts their roster over the top.

Defense generally don't peak until their mid 20's so if your window is now it would be foolish to make an under 21 defenseman that isn't considered top 10 in the league off limits. Montreal's window obviously isn't now so the logic in trading someone like Mailloux is pretty low

Mailloux have double trade value in 3 years. Foolish to trade him now on ELC.

 

[HabsAddict]

I'm waiting for Guhle to partner with Mailman. Only then we can see the full potential of Mailman.

I was paying close attention to his positioning and player tracking, it's better then i thought. He still need a defensive defenseman to partner with and learn and Guhle is perfect.

Not interested in ANY trade for him, Guhle, Rein, X and Hutson. Even Struble is inching closer to a top 6 and top 4 potential.