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All of our 2025 picks for Robert ThomasWonder what Prospects and picks Hab's fans are willing to give up for a "real top 6 C".
All of our 2025 picks for Robert ThomasWonder what Prospects and picks Hab's fans are willing to give up for a "real top 6 C".
Wonder what Prospects and picks Hab's fans are willing to give up for a "real top 6 C".
A Habs fan in this very thread mentioned McTavish. You aren’t gonna like what it would take to acquire him.Which "real top 6 C" we talking about here?
A Habs fan in this very thread mentioned McTavish. You aren’t gonna like what it would take to acquire him.
He generates a lot of traffic and views wether you’re a fan or notGarbageyuk strikes again. Please stop posting.
Exactly, and I did say just that up the thread.He's also not available.
Wonder what Prospects and picks Hab's fans are willing to give up for a "real top 6 C".
To MTL:
• Pavel Zacha
To BOS:
• ‘25 1st round pick (MTL’s own or CGY pick, whichever is higher)
• Choice of Owen Beck/Logan Mailloux
He’d be great as a 2C in MTL. Seems like a lot of Habs fans have this “all or nothing” attitude about the 2C thing where they just unreasonably want another 1C on the 2nd line a la Pittsburgh, Edmonton, and the Washington Cup team (Kuznetsov, Backstrom). That isn’t realistic, and isn’t even necessary, imo. A decent 2C like Zacha would be just fine as long as the rest of the roster was built correctly.I mean he is a “real” 2C. Responsible, good at face offs and can succeed with higher skilled players. Do you want him to be the best player on the second line? Nope. Do you want him featured on the PP like he has been so much this year in Boston? Nope. But as a responsible guy to pair with an irresponsible winger he does the job. Boston just has him miscast as a 1C.
So? When was the last time Boston was getting ready to rebuild/selling off assets while MTL was getting ready to exit a rebuild and had a surplus of picks and prospects? It’s a rather unique situation in regards to these two teams.Not recent years
Come on man, don't be bitter. Life is too short.Lame, unoriginal whining aside, what do you think is a fair price then for a 2C in his prime? Just curious, since you had no problem making a trollish whiny comment that contributes nothing to the topic.
COL gave up gave up Calum Ritchie + 1st + 3rd for Brock Nelson and an AHL depth guy. Nelson is slightly better than Zacha offensively, but worse defensively. The 1st rounder they paid is likely worse than the one in this proposal, but Ritchie is better than Beck or Mailloux. And the 3rd they gave up is worth more than the AHL guy. Nelson is also a lot older than Zacha. Pretty comparable trades, imo. That’s what 2Cs cost to acquire. The Habs need a 2C. You aren’t getting one for free.Come on man, don't be bitter. Life is too short.
Never was a fan of Zacha. I think the price may be fair for someone a fair bit better than him. I think it's an overpay as I don't consider him a recurring 60 point player going forward. And not a target for me.
I do not have a counter-proposal for someone else at that price, so I am not making a thread trying to propose a solution that does not exist at the moment.
No one said for free but if they will spend all those assets I believe it should be a player better than Zacha.COL gave up gave up Calum Ritchie + 1st + 3rd for Brock Nelson and an AHL depth guy. Nelson is slightly better than Zacha offensively, but worse defensively. The 1st rounder they paid is likely worse than the one in this proposal, but Ritchie is better than Beck or Mailloux. And the 3rd they gave up is worth more than the AHL guy. Nelson is also a lot older than Zacha. Pretty comparable trades, imo. That’s what 2Cs cost to acquire. The Habs need a 2C. You aren’t getting one for free.
“All those assets”; they are literally surplus and pieces redundant to MTL and it’s a fair value deal on top of that.No one said for free but if they will spend all those assets I believe it should be a player better than Zacha.
Or they can get an older guy for much much less and play him there as a place holder until one of their younger guys can take the gig.
Id rather trade for Kadri
Is he really thoughI don’t think so. Romanov got traded for 13th overall, and he was barely an established top-4 D at the time (if he even was). Zacha is an established 2C in his prime, so ~16th overall + a decent prospect seems pretty reasonable.
Gonna finish with 50+ points, decent at faceoffs, decent defensively.Is he really though
Barely finishing with 50 points and breaking even at xG% while being stapled to Pastrnak and playing 19.5 minutes a night does not really sound like an established 2C to meGonna finish with 50+ points, decent at faceoffs, decent defensively.
Does that not sound like a 2C to you?
I think it’s pretty clear at this point that Newhook is never going to be a full-time center in the NHL. He can fill in there in a pinch when needed, but his game is really not suited to it - he’s not a play driver or distributor, he’s not good defensively, he’s not good at faceoffs, and he just lacks the IQ for the position at the NHL level. He’s a decent middle-six winger, and he plays better on the wing because he isn’t forced to focus on things he isn’t good at.
good players cost money. 7/per isn't so bad with the cap going up so aggressively.Did you check his AAV? No thanks.