MSG quiet, easy to play at: Is it the chicken or the egg?

[HFsNumber1Heel]

This just isn't a very likeable team. The best player (Henrik) has been throwing hissy fits every time he lets a goal in. This team is predictable, we know what will happen every game.

Expensive ticket prices.

And that horrible song they play when the Rangers lose games is ear shattering

 

[Megustaelhockey]

The loudest thing there are the numerous Potvin sucks chants. Those are really loud sometimes.
The problem isn't that there's no loud people there. The problem is that they'd rather chant about him than the Rangers.

A Potvin sucks chant was started last night on the 8th Ave side by a man in his early 30s in a pink Brooks Brothers shirt in a 7th floor box... I laughed.

As for ticket prices, you have to figure if people weren't going to games or buying at these rates, they would be lower. But every game is reported as a sellout, so... it is what it is.

 

[aufheben]

There is no doubt that the expense has priced out the real fans. That and the younger crowd spends half the game looking at their smart phones.

I've seen people spend literally the entire game on FB/texts informing others that they're "At the Rangers game!! Go Rangers! xoxox #Rangers4life".

It's a generational thing, I'm sure this isn't only at MSG, it's probably everywhere.

 

[Riverdale]

I've seen people spend literally the entire game on FB/texts informing others that they're "At the Rangers game!! Go Rangers! xoxox #Rangers4life"

Sad.

 

[The Gloaming]

hey, when you had guys like Duguay, Gresh, Hickey, Murdoch (even Espo) flying up and down the ice it made a difference as a spectator. Hell, it was nice seeing bald guys too. Yes, in a small way, but still ...

Meh. Everyone knows that Hags has flow. With or without a helmet.

 

[aufheben]

Sad.

I mean, I do it too, but I get it out of my system during the warmups.

 

[The Gloaming]

Sad.

I see people taking pictures and videos for like half the game.

Like, I get that you want to remember the view from your seat, but the game is being broadcast on TV...

 

[nikonsniper*]

When they glue seats to the ceiling and ask $200 for the pair, yeah, thats a problem.

 

[Blueshirt Special]

1) After thr prior lockout we had nowhere to go but up and when we started winning it was a pleasant surprise to everyone

2) The reno has impacted the sound for sure

3) A lot of fans are somewhat jaded/stuck because we are no longer progressing. We are not getting better. Everyone expects us to play well now, so even when we do it's just meh. We need to get to the Finals.

4) We have no explosive players. Not in the goal scoring category or the hitting category.

I don't buy into the corporate fan theory.

 

[*Bob Richards*]

1) After thr prior lockout we had nowhere to go but up and when we started winning it was a pleasant surprise to everyone

2) The reno has impacted the sound for sure

3) A lot of fans are somewhat jaded/stuck because we are no longer progressing. We are not getting better. Everyone expects us to play well now, so even when we do it's just meh. We need to get to the Finals.

4) We have no explosive players. Not in the goal scoring category or the hitting category.

I don't buy into the corporate fan theory.

Pretty much this. It just isn't a very exciting team to watch unless you're a complete die hard. The closest we have to a player showing "explosiveness" is Lundqvist when he's getting shelled by pucks and that's no way to win lol.

 

[haveandare]

Pretty much this. It just isn't a very exciting team to watch unless you're a complete die hard. The closest we have to a player showing "explosiveness" is Lundqvist when he's getting shelled by pucks and that's no way to win lol.

Nash? Kreider? Callahan usually, though admittedly not so much in the very recent past? McDonagh? Stepan?

There are a lot of reasons for the quiet arena. Ticket prices are probably the biggest. The fact that the fan base, at least on this site, is mostly a pity party 24/7 probably doesn't help either.

 

[*Bob Richards*]

Nash? Kreider? Callahan usually, though admittedly not so much in the very recent past? McDonagh? Stepan?

There are a lot of reasons for the quiet arena. Ticket prices are probably the biggest. The fact that the fan base, at least on this site, is mostly a pity party 24/7 probably doesn't help either.

Nash would probably be the closest thing in my mind to explosive. The other guys....eh not so much IMO. I'm thinking about guys who can completely takeover a game.

 

[Tawnos]

For the record, the egg came first.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Hadron Collider?

Yeah, plus the movies in the theaters these days are pathetic, comic book, special effects-laden, void of charisma pieces of trash. No thanks....I'll watch the shows on Showtime and HBO, where the real talent lies.

But yeah, I'm not spending the insane $$ on tickets to go to the garden. My tv is good, my bathroom is clean, and the beer/vodka in my fridge didn't cost an arm and a leg. And when the game is over, and it's freezing, I'm inside and can just pass out.

Ask legitimate fans of the comic books and you'll find out most of them hate the garbage, appeal -to-the-masses imitation movies too. Comic books have been around for so long because they have soul and amazing stories to tell. These movies they put out are cash grabs at best with few exceptions.

But the storytelling and effects appeal to the masses and that = the most cash.

Similarly these arenas are built to solicit the most amount of money and it comes at the cost of fan support.In both cases the soul is ripped out to varying degrees. People also don't appreciate the sport itself they only appreciate the outcomes. Entitlement has spread across multiple generations. It's a multitude of things

 

[OverTheCap]

Having more dynamic players may help with the atmosphere, but the Garden diehards have always appreciated hustle plays. A hard hit, clear on the PK, or strong forechecking effort usually elicits loud cheers and whistles, albeit not as loud as they used to be. I think a lot of the diehards/Blue Seat ticket holders have either been priced out or are getting older and not as rowdy.

 

[NYRSchrute217]

Ticket prices push out the real fans and only corporate bums and resellers go. I know a few people who still have season tickets that they split 3-4 ways but those are becoming less and less.

I finally gave up my season tickets last year and I was surrounded by resellers on every side except the 4 in front of me which were a nice family from Long Island and they split games amongst the whole family. Every other seat had different types of tourists every game who did not know much about hockey.

Go down to lower level and its almost all corporate. I was actually telling my buddy last night who was at the game that they showed 3 women who had seats right on the glass and they weren't even watching action that was right in front of them they were just talking and looking around.

Atleast I can still go to a Yankee game and get $20 seats but we gotta make sure to eat before we go lol.

I'm starting to understand more and more why people are giving up their season tickets. MSG has become extremely quiet during the regular season, especially during the last two years.

I personally would never give up my season tickets, but that's mainly for the playoff games rather than the regular season, which is no longer as exciting to attend.

 

[Thirty One]

For the record, the egg came first.

That's irrelevant, isn't it?

 

[aufheben]

That's irrelevant, isn't it?

"You're a bad eegg"

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

hey, when you had guys like Duguay, Gresh, Hickey, Murdoch (even Espo) flying up and down the ice it made a difference as a spectator. Hell, it was nice seeing bald guys too. Yes, in a small way, but still ...

Absolutely agree. It was just like old times when Guy Lafleur played for the Rangers.

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

the smart phone thing is a very good point, but I think it's probably that way at strip joints and Metallica concerts too.

It's everywhere--at work, on the street, in stores, movies. We live in an age of incredibly short attention spans (and the excuse that everyone is so busy they have to mulit-task.)

 

[The Gloaming]

It's everywhere--at work, on the street, in stores, movies. We live in an age of incredibly short attention spans (and the excuse that everyone is so busy they have to mulit-task.)

Even though I'm part of the same generation, I just don't feel the need to take pictures of my food, my seats, etc and post them on the Internet. My dad and I just laugh at the people who go to the game and stare at their phone. It's become pathetic.

 

[JHS]

I've gone to two games this year and sat in the Chase Bridge seats. It's been so quiet that you can hear the air conditioner system above. The crowd is not loud but everyone is attentive and roots for a win. Just not very loud.

It's such a nice arena right now that a lot of people are taking wives, girlfriends and children and the like. I have to say, I don't see many buddy groups walking around the section of the garden I'm in anymore. Just an observation, not a knock.

I'm still up there calling out players for bad plays and so is my dad who ink to the games with. Most of the other people around us just stare blankly at the ice almost like they don't really know what is going on. It was actually nice to hear some guys around us get on Del Zotto the other day. Of course many other people accused them of being stupid and told them to "shut up" but it was something at least!

 

[jBuds]

Absolutely ticket prices affect this.

For sure. Most who can afford a regular trip don't strike you as the kind who will be screaming their lungs out in observance.

That said, the better the team plays and looks, the more motivated fans get to spend money to go to a game.

 

[abev]

Whether or not the atmosphere has anything to do with the team winning I don't know. But MSG is no doubt very much different now than it was a few years ago.

There are long stretches of quiet - like first quarter NBA talking to the person next to you quiet - that never happened before.

I don't think its as much as the more expensive seats as it is the lack of cheap seats. I sit and the 200s and there is little to no venom behind me like there used to be. I am not saying that's a good thing or bad thing. It's just those people are gone (or have softened, or have become civilized, whichever you prefer).

At the Boston game last week there were a couple of 20 something Bruins fans behind me who were talking trash and being loud the entire game (lots of tuuuuka chants). In years past they would never have made it through the game. A few people yelled at them but it never really got heated.

 

[RangerBoy]

Its the ticket price$.

Go to a Yankee game. You can hear a pin drop. Look at their ticket price$. The new Stadium stinks.

When the Rangers weren't very good in the mid 1980's and didn't have any marque players,the building was crazy.

The average working guy has been priced out of that building.

That is the bottom-line.