MrB1P's top 50 NHL affiliated prospects

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So should mete after that crazy draft + 2 season. Solid NHL debut plus a defensive monster in the WJC while still being an offensive threat

People tend to under value how much it helps a guy like Mete to be around NHL coaches and players. Even bad ones lol. I wonder how high his ceiling is but he's an NHL defenseman already and makes NHL decisions. Might not even consider him a prospect in the traditional sense.
 

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So should mete after that crazy draft + 2 season. Solid NHL debut plus a defensive monster in the WJC while still being an offensive threat
That was his D+1 year.
Edit: Nevermind, misread the post. In any case, I'd only have Kotkaniemi and Poehling in the top 50 as I consider Mete graduated. Scherbak could make a case if he keeps up his play from last season.
 
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Yeah, I knew you were going to point to the quality of the team. And, yes I can read a boxscore. Funny though, if team quality had such an impact on points, why did Rychel improve his production with the Rockets, probably because he got more ice-time, compared to the Marlies who had very balanced usage. And Juulsen played 31 games because the Habs d was a joke. Hell, Mete should have been in London most of the year.

Your list is so biased towards the Habs, it renders it a joke. Next time you try this exercise, at least aim to have some level of objectivity, if you actually want a serious discussion about it.
The OP discussed your post rationally and politely, but here you go being irrespectful and agressive.

You're hurting your own cause.
 

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The list lacks objectivity and is clearly biased towards the Habs. Sorry that can’t be pointed out in a direct manner.
Thank you for saying that! I have no issue with people posting lists that differ from my own views. I do however have an issue with someone posting a list purely to pump his own prospects. And this is exactly what this list is. It’s not easy to be objective on here but my hat is off to a number of other posters who have clearly watched these prospects and are able to assess them objectively.
 

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Thank you for saying that! I have no issue with people posting lists that differ from my own views. I do however have an issue with someone posting a list purely to pump his own prospects. And this is exactly what this list is. It’s not easy to be objective on here but my hat is off to a number of other posters who have clearly watched these prospects and are able to assess them objectively.
How many posts in this thread do you have actually commenting the list?
 

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The perceived lack of objectivity may not be conscious. I know I have sometimes biases towards prospects I have seen play more or pay more attention to. One such example is Gabe Vilardi...

One thing that I like about the list is that is not entirely driven by recent success in current league play and favor guys that may have an extra gear that has not been yet been seen. Glad to see Hronek making the cut.
 

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Everyone of my posts have commented on your list. It’s biased. Show me an objective list anywhere that has more than two Habs in the top 50. And that’s probably generous!
Why dont you comment on Vegas having 3 players in there? NYR having four of them? Alexeyev being in there? I have plenty of other players in there that are higher than consensus would say. Does it mean I have a Carolina/buffalo bias if I have 4 of those players in the top five? What about Detroit? I do have three of them in there. How many lists have you seen with Berggren this high?

Ill give you food for thought, maybe Im just high on Kotkaniemi, Poehling, Juulsen and Mete like Im high on Alexeyev, Lundkvist, Kravtsov and Berggren?
 

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The perceived lack of objectivity may not be conscious. I know I have sometimes biases towards prospects I have seen play more or pay more attention to. One such example is Gabe Vilardi...

One thing that I like about the list is that is not entirely driven by recent success in current league play and favor guys that may have an extra gear that has not been yet been seen. Glad to see Hronek making the cut.
I value the best player possible, wether thats three years down the road or one, it doesnt matter much, a reason why I might be lower on guys like Dermott or Juolevi.

I also havent seen more of the Habs prospect than the rest.

Maybe Kotkaniemi, I watched a lot of his games.
 

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Why dont you comment on Vegas having 3 players in there? NYR having four of them? Alexeyev being in there? I have plenty of other players in there that are higher than consensus would say. Does it mean I have a Carolina/buffalo bias if I have 4 of those players in the top five? What about Detroit? I do have three of them in there. How many lists have you seen with Berggren this high?

Ill give you food for thought, maybe Im just high on Kotkaniemi, Poehling, Juulsen and Mete like Im high on Alexeyev, Lundkvist, Kravtsov and Berggren?
You’re high on Montreal players because you’re a homer. Again I repeat show me any list with 4 Habs on it. They’re my second favourite team and they have a mediocre prospect pool. I don’t really care where you rank other teams prospects. That’s totally up to you. If you’re going to post a list on the main board you should at least make an attempt to be objective on your favourite teams prospects.
I’m done with you. On to my ignore list.
 

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You’re high on Montreal players because you’re a homer. Again I repeat show me any list with 4 Habs on it. They’re my second favourite team and they have a mediocre prospect pool. I don’t really care where you rank other teams prospects. If you’re going to post a list on the main board you should at least make an attempt to be objective on your favourite teams prospects.
I’m done with you. On tony ignore list.
Youre being childish. Why do you feel attacked here?

Show me a list that has Berggren, Lundkvist, Necas, Mittlestatd, Boqvist, Alexeyev, etx this high.
 

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Id rather you dont delete these posts, as I feel westcoastorca adresses some good points and Id rather my answers stay relevant for future readers.
 

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Were there any rankings before or after the draft that had any one of Smith, Lundkvist or Alexeyev ahead of Wahlstrom? Besides this one, of course
 

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Were there any rankings before or after the draft that had any one of Smith, Lundkvist or Alexeyev ahead of Wahlstrom? Besides this one, of course

I had Alexeyev at 10, Smith at 11, Lundkvist at 12 and WahlE at 13, I dont think any list would have both AlexAlex and Nils ahead of Wahle imo, maybe Smith.
 

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My list is there to comment on, not my intentions.
My point was that when you explicitly state the purpose of your list is "so I can say I told you so in five years", that's inviting claims of bias against yourself. Your response to most criticisms of your list can be roughly summarized as "I've watched them more than you, therefore I'm right and you're wrong".
 

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My point was that when you explicitly state the purpose of your list is "so I can say I told you so in five years", that's inviting claims of bias against yourself. Your response to most criticisms of your list can be roughly summarized as "I've watched them more than you, therefore I'm right and you're wrong".
Please comment on my list....
 

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Please comment on my list....
Sure I'll make some comments on your list:

Boqvist at 7 seems too high, Kotkaniemi at 11 is a head scratcher (should be lower), Tkachuk at 28 looks way too low, Alexeyev is way too high, Frost lower than Kyrou is laughable.
 
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Sure I'll make some comments on your list:

Boqvist at 7 seems too high, Kotkaniemi at 11 is a head scratcher (should be lower), Tkachuk at 28 looks way too low, Alexeyev is way too hight, Frost lower than Kyrou is laughable.

Fair, who do you think should be ahead of Boqvist, and why? Why are you low on him?

Why do you think Kyrou should be under Frost?

Who do you think should be ahead of Kotkaniemi?

Who do you think Tkachuk should be ranked ahead of?
 

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