MrB1P's top 50 NHL affiliated prospects

topshelf15 · Jul 28, 2018

Mrb1p said:
Obviously its my opinion, its usually what lists are. I dont do these to please the consensus gang, I do these so I can say I told you so in five years.

Yeah ,GL with that

CraigBillington · Jul 28, 2018

Mrb1p said:
Obviously its my opinion, its usually what lists are. I dont do these to please the consensus gang, I do these so I can say I told you so in five years.

Dude, I'm writing this as a favour. You need to get off your high horse here. Your arrogance on the subject shines through quite a bit, you might wanna tone it down. When you get nearly everyone in this thread - and other threads - disagreeing with you, you might wanna realize that the issue lies with your attitude. Not everyone else.

And I'm saying this without even dissecting your list. I may not agree with a lot of it, but I respect that you have an opinion and posted the list and are willing to back it up... Just when you're doing it with such arrogance, no wonder people are saying stuff and trying to cut you down.

Mrb1p · Jul 28, 2018

CraigBillington said:
Dude, I'm writing this as a favour. You need to get off your high horse here. Your arrogance on the subject shines through quite a bit, you might wanna tone it down. When you get nearly everyone in this thread - and other threads - disagreeing with you, you might wanna realize that the issue lies with your attitude. Not everyone else.

And I'm saying this without even dissecting your list. I may not agree with a lot of it, but I respect that you have an opinion and posted the list and are willing to back it up... Just when you're doing it with such arrogance, no wonder people are saying stuff and trying to cut you down.

Lets talk about my list instead of my posting behaviors, gracias.

wankstifier · Jul 28, 2018

FlyTimmo said:
Poehling had a strong year, but Frost had a stronger one. This decision screams Montreal bias. Secondly, Kyrou shouldn't be above Frost. They had similar years, except Frost is an entire year younger and was a much better even strength player. But you can believe whatever you want lmao

Tanner Laczynski seems to have a similar profile to Poehling and he's maybe ~10th ranked prospect in the Flyers system. Another 5-10 players rounding out 7-16 who have around the same value as prospects.

I'm fine with the Flyers prospects getting underrated because there's so much depth. There are 25-30 players to look over and it's easy for outsiders to miss the breakouts.

Mrb1p · Jul 28, 2018

wankstifier said:
Tanner Laczynski seems to have a similar profile to Poehling and he's maybe ~10th ranked prospect in the Flyers system. Another 5-10 players rounding out 7-16 who have around the same value as prospects.

I'm fine with the Flyers prospects getting underrated because there's so much depth. There are 25-30 players to look over and it's easy for outsiders to miss the breakouts.

Id say thats harsh on Poehling. Hes 19 right now and putting up a similar PPG to Laczynski... thats kind of ridiculous TBH. Laczynski is a lot more comparable to Jake Evans, whos, conveniently about 10th in the Habs prospect pool.

wankstifier · Jul 28, 2018

Mrb1p said:
Id say thats harsh on Poehling. Hes 19 right now and putting up a similar PPG to Laczynski... thats kind of ridiculous TBH. Laczynski is a lot more comparable to Jake Evans, whos, conveniently about 10th in the Habs prospect pool.

Laczynski scored well in the USHL and NCAA at 18 and 19. He just turned 21 last month, so he's an older 18 and 19 in those seasons then Poehling in his past two. Above or around a point per game, plus smarts, hardworking, some question of foot speed. They seem similar to me?

Mrb1p · Jul 28, 2018

wankstifier said:
Laczynski scored well in the USHL and NCAA at 18 and 19. He just turned 21 last month, so he's an older 18 and 19 in those seasons then Poehling in his past two. Above or around a point per game, plus smarts, hardworking, some question of foot speed. They seem similar to me?

Poehling has absolutely no question on footspeed though. Theres a difference between being ppg at 20 than doing it at 18/19 as the 1C of one of the best team in the league... Evans is exactly 1 year older than Laczynski and has similar NCAA seasons, those are your comparables, not Poehling...

As a 18 year old Poehling played over Laczynski in the WJC too.

wasup · Jul 28, 2018

Mrb1p said:
Id say thats harsh on Poehling. Hes 19 right now and putting up a similar PPG to Laczynski... thats kind of ridiculous TBH. Laczynski is a lot more comparable to Jake Evans, whos, conveniently about 10th in the Habs prospect pool.

Laczynski Fr yr .94 ppg So yr 1.15ppg Poehling Fr yr .37 ppg So yr 1.15 ppg Now Laczynski is 1.5 years older so just compare his sophmore yr to Poehling freshman yr and Laczynski still has him beat and he ranked 10 on Flyers prospect poll . This just goes to show how deep the Flyers prospect poll is and that's why it is on or near the top ranked prospect group in the league . People trying to do rankings of prospects other than there own team is really quite pointless cause they don't watch any of them other than their own . Fun but pointless

Mrb1p · Jul 28, 2018

wasup said:
Laczynski Fr yr .94 ppg So yr 1.15ppg Poehling Fr yr .37 ppg So yr 1.15 ppg Now Laczynski is 1.5 years older so just compare his sophmore yr to Poehling freshman yr and Laczynski still has him beat and he ranked 10 on Flyers prospect poll . This just goes to show how deep the Flyers prospect poll is and that's why it is on or near the top ranked prospect group in the league . People trying to do rankings of prospects other than there own team is really quite pointless cause they don't watch any of them other than their own . Fun but pointless

Thats your opinion, that people dont watch. Laczynski isnt as good as Poehling, thats pretty much why hes not ranked.

Also trying to compare NCAA per team isnt as simple as just checking stats straight up.

wankstifier · Jul 28, 2018

Mrb1p said:
Thats your opinion, that people dont watch. Laczynski isnt as good as Poehling, thats pretty much why hes not ranked.

Also trying to compare NCAA per team isnt as simple as just checking stats straight up.

Don't your arguments for Poehling appeal to draft position? Ranking, WJC role...

Isaac Nootin · Jul 28, 2018

What team is OP a fan of?

wasup · Jul 28, 2018

Mrb1p said:
Thats your opinion, that people dont watch. Laczynski isnt as good as Poehling, thats pretty much why hes not ranked.

Also trying to compare NCAA per team isnt as simple as just checking stats straight up.

The NCHC is a little stronger than BIG 10 so that does make up alittle difference . I happened to watch Poehling live twice in St Cloud last yr but did not get to see Laczynski last yr but did the yr before . They are very similar in overall abilities Poehling being faster Laczynski being more cerebral . Maybe a better comparison age wise as they are only a yr apart in draft and play in the same conference would be Poehling vs Allison but he ranked 5th in Flyers pole .

HokieDude17 · Jul 28, 2018

Mrb1p said:
I dont do these to please the consensus gang, I do these so I can say I told you so in five years.

Lets talk about my list instead of my posting behaviors, gracias.

Ah, so you're just out here stroking your own ego then. And yet you wonder why people are accusing you of having bias... Oh well, carry on.

WetcoastOrca · Jul 28, 2018

Isaac Nootin said:
What team is OP a fan of?

Hmmm. That’s a tough one. Donnez moi un moment.

Isaac Nootin · Jul 28, 2018

Mrb1p said:
I dont do these to please the consensus gang, I do these so I can say I told you so in five years.

Do you have a link to previous years you've done these lists?

Mrb1p · Jul 28, 2018

Isaac Nootin said:
What team is OP a fan of?

Rangers, I think.

Mrb1p · Jul 28, 2018

wasup said:
The NCHC is a little stronger than BIG 10 so that does make up alittle difference . I happened to watch Poehling live twice in St Cloud last yr but did not get to see Laczynski last yr but did the yr before . They are very similar in overall abilities Poehling being faster Laczynski being more cerebral . Maybe a better comparison age wise as they are only a yr apart in draft and play in the same conference would be Poehling vs Allison but he ranked 5th in Flyers pole .

That would be closer, I agree. Still think Poehling is better but I can agree to the comparison, but thats more on Allisson being good than Poehling being bad or what ever.

Mrb1p · Jul 28, 2018

HokieDude17 said:
Ah, so you're just out here stroking your own ego then. And yet you wonder why people are accusing you of having bias... Oh well, carry on.

My list is there to comment on, not my intentions.

Mrb1p · Jul 28, 2018

Isaac Nootin said:
Do you have a link to previous years you've done these lists?

First timenI actually do a proper list, but my prospect opinions are well known on this board and Im very vocal about them.

Isaac Nootin · Jul 28, 2018

Mrb1p said:
Obviously its my opinion, its usually what lists are. I dont do these to please the consensus gang, I do these so I can say I told you so in five years.

Mrb1p said:
First timenI actually do a proper list, but my prospect opinions are well known on this board and Im very vocal about them.

Quote reads like past tense and having multiple lists.

I.E. "these"

Mrb1p · Jul 28, 2018

Isaac Nootin said:
Quote reads like past tense and having multiple lists.

I.E. "these"

Sorry to disappoint

snipes · Jul 28, 2018

Boqvist way too high.

No Yamamoto? Bouchard at 44 after putting up the best draft eligible season offensively for a D man in 9 years seems strange.

Good effort overall, disagree with a bunch but appreciate the time these things take.

Mrb1p · Jul 28, 2018

snipes said:
Boqvist way too high.

No Yamamoto? Bouchard at 44 after putting up the best draft eligible season offensively for a D man in 9 years seems strange.

Good effort overall, disagree with a bunch but appreciate the time these things take.

Yamamoto would be close to the 50th spot, in an ideal world, I probably shouldve went for a top 100 instead of 50, but oh well.

Not particularly high on Bouchard, had him in the teens in 2018, I question his IQ, defensive play and physical presence.

Thanks for the kind words, though.

7even · Jul 28, 2018

Mrb1p said:
I feel Necas and Mittelstadt had years that were just as good as Pettersson and are closer to NHL ready, with less question about their games.

I had Boqvist 3rd in this draft, hard not for him to be high. He fell because of a lack of exposure.

Pettersson had a year that leaves him pretty much peerless in the SHL.....

Mittelstadt wasnt even PPG in college and Necas was good but not unusually so. Some other pointed omissions of rival team prospects stand out.

David Suzuki · Jul 28, 2018

DieTomi said:
Let me just sneak Poehling Juulsen and Mete right into the top 40 here... How can a list this biased be taken seriously?

Poehling should be a top 50 prospect on anyones list.

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