You didn’t answer my any of my points. He has a lot of shortcomings. Do you just ignore them? Back checking? Playmaking? Turnovers? Consistency? Are those all 10’s? Hutson fell because size is important in a defenseman. Caufield is literally 5’7 and was weaker than Firkus but he still went as a lottery pick. It’s just not true. Firkus has flaws besides the strength and he definitely did not dominate the WHL.
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Tough crowd. I’m guessing not many of the early shit talkers would dare post a top 50 list.
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I don't have the guts or the knowhow to post my own list, so props to you there..... but based on this list it is pretty apparent which teams you like and dislike.
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Where's Lane Hutson ?40 Game cut-off, no age cut-off.
As usual, offensive impact is the main driver of my lists, bias on center, goalscoring, physical play. No goalies, that shits voodoo and not fun.
Rank Name Position Team 1 Owen Power D Buffalo 2 Shane Wright C Seattle 3 Matthew Beniers C Seattle 4 Simon Nemec D New Jersey 5 David Jiricek D Colombus 6 jack Quinn F Buffalo 7 Mason Mactavish C Anaheim 8 Simon Edvinsson D Detroit 9 Frank Nazar III F Chicago 10 Logan Cooley C Arizona 11 Kent Johnson C Colombus 12 Juraj Slafkovsky F Montréal 13 Lukas Reichel F Chicago 14 Luke Hughes D New Jersey 15 JJ Peterka F Buffalo 16 Bobby Brink F Philadelphia 17 Cole Perfetti F Winnipeg 18 Wyatt Johnston F Dallas 19 Alexander Holtz RW New Jersey 20 Marco Rossi C Minnesota 21 Pavel Mintyukov D Anaheim 22 Jonathan Lekkerimaki F Vancouver 23 Matthew Savoie C Buffalo 24 Jagger Firkus F Seattle 25 Brandt Clarke D Los Angeles 26 Mavrik Bourque C Dallas 27 Jack Drury C Carolina 28 Brennan Othmann LW New York Rangers 29 Dylan Guenther RW Arizona 30 Joakim Kemmel RW Nashville 31 Denton Mateychuk D Colombus 32 Luke Evangelista RW Nashville 33 Jake Sanderson D Ottawa 34 Justin Barron D Montréal 35 Alex Turcotte C Los Angeles 36 William Eklund C San Jose 37 Ville Heinola D Winnipeg 38 Kaiden Guhle D Montréal 39 Pavel Dorofeyev F Vegas 40 Jonathan Berggren F Detroit 41 Connor Geekie C Arizona 42 Nick Robertson C Toronto 43 Sean Farrell F Montréal 44 Samuel Poulin F Pittsburgh 45 Joshua Roy F Montréal 46 David Gustaffson C Winnipeg 47 Gleb Trikozov C Carolina 48 Brendan Brisson C Vegas 49 Thomas Bordeleau C San José 50 Aatu Raty C New York Islanders
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MrB1P's top 50 affiliated prospects. Edition 2019-2020.
2018-2019 edition: MrB1P's top 50 NHL affiliated prospects Since last years list was a real chore because I did not actually set any parameters for the prospect, this year I am going black on white on eligibility rules. Eligibility rules are: 25 games or less in the NHL 25 years of age or...MrB1P's top 50 NHL affiliated prospects
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It’s so funny when people bring up @Mrb1p list and his ranking of Seider.
You can place a bet on black at the roulette table and place a bet on 7. Just because it hits the red 7 doesn’t mean that black was a bad bet or that 7 was a good bet. People confuse chance of outcome with actual outcome.
If anyone knew what Seider would become he would’ve been drafted top two.
You can place a bet on black at the roulette table and place a bet on 7. Just because it hits the red 7 doesn’t mean that black was a bad bet or that 7 was a good bet. People confuse chance of outcome with actual outcome.
If anyone knew what Seider would become he would’ve been drafted top two.
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Tbh its deserved on Seider. I had him ranked higher than most on draft day (10 I think) and somehow completely ignored his D+1, mostly because the bulk of AHL game I watch are Lavals, but also because I fall in love with players hard.
He was 25th on my 2020 list, the 8th D on my list, after his great season in the AHL. Shouldve been higher, but then again theres like two or three busts overall ahead of him, not too bad.
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If I remember well enough, he was 32nd on my draft list. Hes behind Mesar on my list, 7th on the Habs, maybe 8th if I consider Mailloux.
I had him in my top 40 2022 draftees so he probably makes the top 75-80.
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I believe hes going to be a #2. The only ones I really debated were Slaf, Johnson and Mactavish. Who would you have him over? I assume the USDP guys.
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The only shortcomings he has are that of being a 150 lbs offensive minded player. Those things always sort themselves out.
Caufield had literal record breaking seasons and still went 15th. Not a good example, lol.
His production is very good for a player with his size, the dub is the toughes CHL league to score in, 1.22 as a u18 is actually pretty rare.
What I refer to as a player with no weaknesses is that hes a 10 all over on a skill level, and being 5'10 at 17 isn't scary at all to me. Worst case he doesnt grow and he adds a dozen pounds to his frame and hes still miles bigger than Gaudreau, best case he grows and he's 5'11? Theres no size drawbacks.
Also I think you underrate his defensive ability, I havent seen him get beat outright on reads, he obviously has limitations that stems from size and playstyle.
He doesn’t have a 10 overall skill level and anyone who’s watched him play can tell you that. He’s got great skills but I’m not sure how serious you think a 10 is. Players like Patrick Kane, Jack Hughes, Connor McDavid possess 10/10 as an overall skill level. If Firkus had that, regardless of his size he’d put up 120 points in the WHL. Anyone can have their own opinion about potential but when it comes to facts he doesn’t have game breaking skill and has more flaws than just his strength. Caufield is a great example if you could understand what I was getting at. You said Firkus’ only flaw and category that’s not a 10 is his strength/build which can be said exactly the same as Caufield. If that was really the case why didn’t he go in the lottery like Caufield? His defense in a nutshell is fine but he’s a lazy backchecker and loses focus.
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Because while Firkus is a great goalscorer, hes not a near-generational goalscorer like Cole.
Another great example is Savoie, who barely outproduced Jagger and was drafted as a lottery pick. The difference between him and Jagger talent wise is negligible, Savoie gets the nod on skating.
You're using Mcdavid, Kane and Hughes as examples but these guys are literally 11s across the board. I dont think Firkus is among those, or Id have him 1st overall.
Maybe not you though, maybe youd have Kakko ahead of him
.Your points are just flawed. There's no such thing as an 11, you're just fudging your way out of saying something wrong. Savoie did not barely outproduce Jagger, and Savoie is superior in most of all offensive categories, not just skating. Not sure what you're referring to with Kakko there, doesn't help your points though.Because while Firkus is a great goalscorer, hes not a near-generational goalscorer like Cole.
Another great example is Savoie, who barely outproduced Jagger and was drafted as a lottery pick. The difference between him and Jagger talent wise is negligible, Savoie gets the nod on skating.
You're using Mcdavid, Kane and Hughes as examples but these guys are literally 11s across the board. I dont think Firkus is among those, or Id have him 1st overall.
Maybe not you though, maybe youd have Kakko ahead of him
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Just a quick jab about your 2019 rankings buddy.
My points arent flawed. Youre using absolute exceptions to say Im wrong about Firkus being a player with elite offensive tools.
Savoie is very similar to Firkus in tools, Matt just has faster execution and is a better skater overall. I think that may make people overrate Savoies tool, but yeah? Savoies a better prospect than Firkus.
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