MrB1Ps annual affiliated prospect list 2020 Covid edition

[Mrb1p]

Welcome flamers.

41 Game cut-off, no age cut-off.

As usual, offensive impact is the main driver of my lists, bias on center, goalscoring, physical play.

Mostly a complete offense and a willingness to be the man on the offense. I'm also a fan of physicality and aggressiveness in a player. NHL readiness isn't really something I value too highly, but it is certainly a factor in this ranking as the first five should all be in the NHL this year. Another thing I value highly is intelligence. If a player showcases a good level of on-ice IQ, he's most likely a favorite of mine. I tend to overlook defensive problems as these usually are either overblown or they sort themselves out.

What could bring a player down ?
Perimeter play. This is the biggest culprit.
Lack of a shot.
Lack of speed, or a tendency to float.

This is my list, and my list only, it has not been influenced by any other media list around, which is why it might look a bit different than most.

I stopped at 40 because theres usually 20-25 names that completely fall off these lists, so Im trying to narrow it down to make it more accurate.


Only two Habs prospect this time

Rank	Surname	Name	Pos	Team	Draft year	2019 ranking	2018 ranking
1	Lafrenière	Alexis	LW	Rangers	2020
2	Byram	Bowen	D	Avalanche	2019	8
3	Byfield	Quinton	C	Kings	2020
4	Stutzle	Tim	F	Ottawa	2020
5	Newhook	Alexis	C	Avanlanche	2019	9
6	Boqvist	Adam	D	BlackHawks	2018	7	7
7	Turcotte	Alexis	C	Kings	2019	6
8	Heinola	Vile	D	Jets	2019	22
9	Raymond	Lucas	W	RedWings	2020
10	Rossi	Marco	C	Wild	2020
11	Caufield	Cole	RW	Canadiens	2019	31
12	Robertson	Nick	F	Maple Leafs	2019	43
13	Vilardi	Gabe	C	Kings	2017	ND	16
14	Brink	Bobby	RW	Flyers	2019	39
15	Holtz	Alexander	W	Devils	2020
16	Drysdale	Jamie	D	Ducks	2020
17	Kravtsov	Vitali	RW	Rangers	2018	15	29
18	Krebs	Peyton	F	Golden Knights	2019	29
19	Hague	Nick	D	Golden Knights	2017	12	49
20	McMichael	Connor	C	Capitals	2019	47
21	Jarvis	Seth	F	Hurricanes	2020
22	Romanov	Alexander	D	Canadiens	2018	32
23	Perfetti	Cole	F	Jets	2020
24	Lundkvist	Nils	D	Rangers	2018		33
25	SeIder	Moritz	D	Red wings	2019	30
26	Zadina	Filip	W	Redwings	2018	26	18
27	Berggren	Jonathan	F	Red Wings	2018	44
28	Gustafsson	David	C	Jets	2018
29	Batherson	Drake	F	Senators	2017	25
30	Zegras	Trevor	F	Ducks	2019	H/M
31	Quinn	Jack	W	Sabres	2020
32	Hayton	Barrett	C	Coyotes	2018	37
33	Dobson	Noah	D	Islanders	2018	18	19
34	Bjornfot	Tobias	D	Kings	2019
35	Sandin	Rasmus	D	Maple Leafs	2018	38
36	Texier	Alexandre	F	Blue Jackets	2017	36
37	Poulin	Samuel	W	Penguins	2019	48
38	Broberg	Philip	D	Oilers	2019
39	Sanderson	Jake	D	Ottawa	2020
40	Rees	Jamieson	F	Hurricanes	2019

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MrB1P's top 50 affiliated prospects. Edition 2019-2020.

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MrB1P's top 50 NHL affiliated prospects

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[thrillhous]

At first glance Kaprizov must have been missed accidentally.

 

[Mrb1p]

At first glance Kaprizov must have been missed accidentally.

Nah, screw that dude. Ive been ranking him for two years now, I see him as an ufa player, when he comes over he comes over. Im not getting any hopes anymore, Im not even sure hell come over for real once the season starts, is it just insurance in case the KHL has some kind of monetary trouble ?

Anyway, with that out of the way, he'd be on there for sure.

 

[Boo Boo]

sure was nice of you to let zegras on your top 40 prospect list this time around

 

[thrillhous]

Nah, screw that dude. Ive been ranking him for two years now, I see him as an ufa player, when he comes over he comes over. Im not getting any hopes anymore, Im not even sure hell come over for real once the season starts, is it just insurance in case the KHL has some kind of monetary trouble ?

Anyway, with that out of the way, he'd be on there for sure.

Where would you put him if you assume in fact he will be in North America this season. He has signed his ELC by the way and came over to Minnesota in August.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I can see why Josh Brook fell so far, but what about Ty Smith? On top of that, seems like a lot of guys you previously had high completely fell of the list despite not graduating (Brannstrom, Alexeyev, Dorofeyev, Podkolzin, the list goes on...)

 

[DollardStLaurent]

At first glance Kaprizov must have been missed accidentally.

At first glance, beside Kaprizov, where is Tomasino?

 

[Mrb1p]

sure was nice of you to let zegras on your top 40 prospect list this time around

Lmao, still think hes a perimeter player and a likely disappointing NHL player but I feel like a lot of players are worse bet than him to make the NHL now.

Where would you put him if you assume in fact he will be in North America this season. He has signed his ELC by the way and came over to Minnesota in August.

Haven't really taken the time to scout him honestly, since 2019 I kinda gave up on him, I know his worth but I have no idea where he's at since last year, although I did see his ELC go through in aughust. Off the top of my head, I have a really hard time saying where Id rank him, just because he's so much older than the others and unproven (I know hes been good in the KHL). How high would I be on Bobby Brink if he got 5 years outside the NHL to polish his game ? Its tough to visualize.

I feel like he can be a big time producer, honestly... But the uncertainty with him kills me. Is he going to come over, is he not ? Is he big enough ? Is he going to fade away into the perimeter like he has at times... Also the Wilds situation isn't too good, If im honest.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Cozens outside your top 40 is certainly a...bold take

 

[Mrb1p]

I can see why Josh Brook fell so far, but what about Ty Smith? On top of that, seems like a lot of guys you previously had high completely fell of the list despite not graduating (Alexeyev, Dorofeyev, Podkolzin, the list goes on...)

They all had weak years, except Alexeyev who I still rank fairly high, he'd definitely be in the top 50 had I made it 50 instead of 40.

Adding in a new draft + taking out 10 spots means decisions are going to have to be made, Im really not happy about leaving AlexAlex off of it, trust me, he's a player I know will have an impact in the NHL.

Dorofeyev, I haven't followed at all after overscouting him in 2019. But from reading what russian posters had to say about his play in the KHL and VHL, I had to drop him off, I really thought he would explode and that makes me sad.

Dorofeyev and Khovanov are both in the same boat.

Podkolzin I was never much of a fan, scouted him some more in 2019 and realize he's not my style of player, probably doesn't make my top 100.

A lot of the players that fell though would be in my top 100, including Smith and Brook.

At first glance, beside Kaprizov, where is Tomasino?

Tomasino is a near miss, I have considered him for the last few spots but he got edged out by a few players.

 

[Mrb1p]

Cozens outside your top 40 is certainly a...bold take

Cozens hasn't proved to me he can get over his low-iq style of play and become a top player in the league, unlike Dach who I had reservations about for other reasons, who showed me I was wrong.

Fun fact, I actually had Cozens over Dach for a long time before the draft.

I don't see how you can make an argument for Cozens here, maybe Poulin ? The thing is Ive seen Poulin carry an offense with his physical tools (Like Cozens) but also with his IQ, something Dylan hasn't done for me.

What do you think his likely upside is ? Would you mention him if he wasn't a sabre ?

 

[tsujimoto74]

Cozens hasn't proved to me he can get over his low-iq style of play and become a top player in the league, unlike Dach who I had reservations about for other reasons, who showed me I was wrong.

Fun fact, I actually had Cozens over Dach for a long time before the draft.

I don't see how you can make an argument for Cozens here, maybe Poulin ? The thing is Ive seen Poulin carry an offense with his physical tools (Like Cozens) but also with his IQ, something Dylan hasn't done for me.

What do you think his likely upside is ? Would you mention him if he wasn't a sabre ?

You are the first person I've ever seen call Cozens a low-IQ player. Again, bold take.

 

[DollardStLaurent]

They all had weak years, except Alexeyev who I still rank fairly high, he'd definitely be in the top 50 had I made it 50 instead of 40.

Adding in a new draft + taking out 10 spots means decisions are going to have to be made, Im really not happy about leaving AlexAlex off of it, trust me, he's a player I know will have an impact in the NHL.

Dorofeyev, I haven't followed at all after overscouting him in 2019. But from reading what russian posters had to say about his play in the KHL and VHL, I had to drop him off, I really thought he would explode and that makes me sad.

Dorofeyev and Khovanov are both in the same boat.

Podkolzin I was never much of a fan, scouted him some more in 2019 and realize he's not my style of player, probably doesn't make my top 100.

A lot of the players that fell though would be in my top 100, including Smith and Brook.



Tomasino is a near miss, I have considered him for the last few spots but he got edged out by a few players.

Like Rees? Do you actually think that Rees is a better prospect than Tomasino or even Tracey?

 

[Tube Skates]

This looks like a good thread to bring up Owen Tippett. Not cantering on your list but he never appears on any top 50s that I’ve seen. Looking for your insight. What does his game lack to not get much recognition?

 

[Macky]

Romanov before Dobson and Sandin heu.............. ok

 

[Mrb1p]

You are the first person I've ever seen call Cozens a low-IQ player. Again, bold take.

I don't think I am. He clearly doesn't think the game fast enough for his abilities, and he does play a low percentage game. He reminds me of Drouin in that sense, but with less fancy dandy, more of a ill get through you because Im bigger and faster.

 

[Mrb1p]

Like Rees? Do you actually think that Rees is a better prospect than Tomasino or even Tracey?

All realy close to each other, Id have them as you typed. Tomasino has the better tools, but Rees uses his better.

Again, is this some kind of hot take ?
Rees had a 1.56 ppg while Tomasino had a 1.61.
Both were ranked similarly going in the draft (top 40ish)

I always liked Rees better though, much better killer instinct and his shooting arsenal is lethal, on top of his elite vision around the net. The only reasons why you'd go Tomasino instead if because he's faster and bigger, IMO.

They all have similar strengths, but I take the better shooter everytime. Rees can beat a goalie clean, even in the NHL with a number of different shot.

f***, now that I think of it, i might have under ranked him.

Tracey is a good player too, really smart, rivals Rees in smarts, but he doesn't have the same offensive killer instinct and buzzsaw work ethic (Even if he's great at those too.)

This looks like a good thread to bring up Owen Tippett. Not cantering on your list but he never appears on any top 50s that I’ve seen. Looking for your insight. What does his game lack to not get much recognition?

He'd be in the tail end of the top 50, Im sure. He made it on my last two lists, if I recall.

He's a great shooter, obviously, we all know that, but I think he still lacks dimension, and then again, I haven't caught him much this year because of the shortened season. I know he's done great so far, so it's not exactly that he's a bad player, but I probably underrate his raw talent because he's not a play driver, a pet peeve of mine.

Romanov before Dobson and Sandin heu.............. ok

Why would you have those guys ahead of him ? I personally think theyre all very close, but Romanov has more dimensions to his game. Romanov is the more dynamic player in the offensive zone, the better shooter, more physical, better shutdown D than Dobson and they're all fairly equal in transition play.

 

[P10p]

Nah, screw that dude. Ive been ranking him for two years now, I see him as an ufa player, when he comes over he comes over. Im not getting any hopes anymore, Im not even sure hell come over for real once the season starts, is it just insurance in case the KHL has some kind of monetary trouble ?

Anyway, with that out of the way, he'd be on there for sure.

Sure is easy to make stuff up to back up a terrible take eh?

 

[Isaac Nootin]

I find the Bobby Brink ranking odd, and no Cozens is also a strange omission.

 

[Llamamoto]

You are the first person I've ever seen call Cozens a low-IQ player. Again, bold take.

I don't think I am. He clearly doesn't think the game fast enough for his abilities, and he does play a low percentage game. He reminds me of Drouin in that sense, but with less fancy dandy, more of a ill get through you because Im bigger and faster.

I've seen quite a few question his hockey IQ. I don't think it's low, but his playmaking and offensive IQ isn't on the level of someone I think can become a high-end offensive center. I see more of a middle-6 center with his defensive play, size, and shot.

Although I find it kind of odd that you have Romanov at 22 but you don't have Samorukov ranked. He's playing much better this year on CSKA than Romanov did the year previously. Obviously Samorukov was older, but his physical play + offensive play + defensive play has to have caught your eye. On the topic of Oilers D prospects, I find it very odd that you don't have Bouchard ranked, and have Broberg at #38. What don't you like about them?

 

[tsujimoto74]

I've seen quite a few question his hockey IQ. I don't think it's low, but his playmaking and offensive IQ isn't on the level of someone I think can become a high-end offensive center. I see more of a middle-6 center with his defensive play, size, and shot.

Although I find it kind of odd that you have Romanov at 22 but you don't have Samorukov ranked. He's playing much better this year on CSKA than Romanov did the year previously. Obviously Samorukov was older, but his physical play + offensive play + defensive play has to have caught your eye. On the topic of Oilers D prospects, I find it very odd that you don't have Bouchard ranked, and have Broberg at #38. What don't you like about them?

Yeah, I don't think Cozens is the world's most creative player, but he's not a dumb hockey player either. More of a meat and potatoes kind of guy. I see his ceiling as something like Jeff Carter.

 

[covfefe]

Unlike most of the goofs in this thread - respect for putting yourself out there and even more respect for responding to all of these curmudgeons.

Even though I don’t agree with every ranking, love your chutzpah.

 

[Mrb1p]

Sure is easy to make stuff up to back up a terrible take eh?

Two scenarios here
Angry Wild fan
Angry russian fan

I find the Bobby Brink ranking odd, and no Cozens is also a strange omission.

Well progress was made since the last two lists, you didn't even hint at a single Habs prospect!

I've seen quite a few question his hockey IQ. I don't think it's low, but his playmaking and offensive IQ isn't on the level of someone I think can become a high-end offensive center. I see more of a middle-6 center with his defensive play, size, and shot.

Although I find it kind of odd that you have Romanov at 22 but you don't have Samorukov ranked. He's playing much better this year on CSKA than Romanov did the year previously. Obviously Samorukov was older, but his physical play + offensive play + defensive play has to have caught your eye. On the topic of Oilers D prospects, I find it very odd that you don't have Bouchard ranked, and have Broberg at #38. What don't you like about them?

I agree with your assessment of Cozens, I actually think he probably ends up on the wing as a Kreider like presence.

As for Samurokov vs Romanov, I don't think youre fair with Romanov, probably from a lack of knowledge of his situation. Romanov has been gaslighted by his KHL organisation over and over in 19-20 because he mentionned his intentions were NHL in 2020-2021. Right after he said that, his minutes decreased immediatly, like drastically. He had games where he ended up on the first pair and then all of a sudden, he was playing six minutes a game.

There's also the fact that Samurokov has been outplayed by Romanov at all stages of their careers. I have little doubt both will be in the NHL, but I think Romanov has a higher chance of being an impact player. At the end fo the day though, both are really good prospects.

As for Broberg vs Bouchard, its IQ and Skating to me. Broberg doesn't have the offensive toolset that Bouchard has, not nearly as good of a shot (He wouldve gone top 3 if he did.) but he can flat out fly, and his reads are much superior to Evan, IMO. Bouchard will most likely make the NHL as a PP specialist, Broberg will be in the NHL dominating ES play.

Yeah, I don't think Cozens is the world's most creative player, but he's not a dumb hockey player either. More of a meat and potatoes kind of guy. I see his ceiling as something like Jeff Carter.

He plays a simple game because he's a simple man, lets leave it at that.

Jeff Carter may be over selling it a bit.

Unlike most of the goofs in this thread - respect for putting yourself out there and even more respect for responding to all of these curmudgeons.

Even though I don’t agree with every ranking, love your chutzpah.

<3

 

[Llamamoto]

Two scenarios here
Angry Wild fan
Angry russian fan



Well progress was made since the last two lists, you didn't even hint at a single Habs prospect!



I agree with your assessment of Cozens, I actually think he probably ends up on the wing as a Kreider like presence.

As for Samurokov vs Romanov, I don't think youre fair with Romanov, probably from a lack of knowledge of his situation. Romanov has been gaslighted by his KHL organisation over and over in 19-20 because he mentionned his intentions were NHL in 2020-2021. Right after he said that, his minutes decreased immediatly, like drastically. He had games where he ended up on the first pair and then all of a sudden, he was playing six minutes a game.

There's also the fact that Samurokov has been outplayed by Romanov at all stages of their careers. I have little doubt both will be in the NHL, but I think Romanov has a higher chance of being an impact player. At the end fo the day though, both are really good prospects.

As for Broberg vs Bouchard, its IQ and Skating to me. Broberg doesn't have the offensive toolset that Bouchard has, not nearly as good of a shot (He wouldve gone top 3 if he did.) but he can flat out fly, and his reads are much superior to Evan, IMO. Bouchard will most likely make the NHL as a PP specialist, Broberg will be in the NHL dominating ES play.



He plays a simple game because he's a simple man, lets leave it at that.

Jeff Carter may be over selling it a bit.



<3

I didn't know that about Romanov, that is interesting. Out of curiosity, how did you come to the conclusion that Romanov outplayed Samorukov at all levels? They play(ed) in very different league, and I find that comparing them can be very difficult, and it comes down to how you project them at the pro level.

The Broberg IQ thing has been beaten to death, and I don't see it. I've watched nearly every game he's played this year in the SHL, and his outlet pass + offensive instincts look a lot better than in his draft year. Have you watched him yet this year?

I get your Bouchard criticism, but his skating has improved quite a bit during his AHL season last year. My main issue with his is the intensity at which he plays with in his own zone. His skating + foot speed is more than fine, and he has no trouble rushing the puck up the ice. I still see the Carlson/Burns comparisons, and I think he has top pairing upside.

 

[P10p]

Two scenarios here
Angry Wild fan
Angry russian fan



Well progress was made since the last two lists, you didn't even hint at a single Habs prospect!



I agree with your assessment of Cozens, I actually think he probably ends up on the wing as a Kreider like presence.

As for Samurokov vs Romanov, I don't think youre fair with Romanov, probably from a lack of knowledge of his situation. Romanov has been gaslighted by his KHL organisation over and over in 19-20 because he mentionned his intentions were NHL in 2020-2021. Right after he said that, his minutes decreased immediatly, like drastically. He had games where he ended up on the first pair and then all of a sudden, he was playing six minutes a game.

There's also the fact that Samurokov has been outplayed by Romanov at all stages of their careers. I have little doubt both will be in the NHL, but I think Romanov has a higher chance of being an impact player. At the end fo the day though, both are really good prospects.

As for Broberg vs Bouchard, its IQ and Skating to me. Broberg doesn't have the offensive toolset that Bouchard has, not nearly as good of a shot (He wouldve gone top 3 if he did.) but he can flat out fly, and his reads are much superior to Evan, IMO. Bouchard will most likely make the NHL as a PP specialist, Broberg will be in the NHL dominating ES play.



He plays a simple game because he's a simple man, lets leave it at that.

Jeff Carter may be over selling it a bit.



<3

Again, you can't intelligently defend your opinion. That's what I figured. HF scouts lol...