Move Players with term, recoup picks

[SPLBRUIN]

Trading a vezina trophy winner is ludicrous unless the return is incredible. Cap dump no way and no thanks thank goodness Donny is at the helm he ain't gonna get fleeced.

We don't need an incredible return, we need the cap space to bolster either our forward group or D. Furthermore he has proven 2 years in a row that he is not a playoff performer, I am all for Sweeney trading him, though I'm guessing that he won't.

 

[The don godfather]

We don't need an incredible return, we need the cap space to bolster either our forward group or D. Furthermore he has proven 2 years in a row that he is not a playoff performer, I am all for Sweeney trading him, though I'm guessing that he won't.

He wont and good for the team . The guy is solid.

 

[UncleRico]

We don't need an incredible return, we need the cap space to bolster either our forward group or D. Furthermore he has proven 2 years in a row that he is not a playoff performer, I am all for Sweeney trading him, though I'm guessing that he won't.

There’s a world where he can be traded and the bruins get a good return too

 

[SPLBRUIN]

He wont and good for the team . The guy is solid.

Good in the regular season yes, turns into a pumpkin come playoff time. He would fit in well on the Leafs.

There’s a world where he can be traded and the bruins get a good return too

That's what I'm hoping for.

 

[The don godfather]

Good in the regular season yes, turns into a pumpkin come playoff time. He would fit in well on the Leafs.



That's what I'm hoping for.

I would get rid of elmer I mean monty first before ullmark.

 

[mikelvl]

Current Hockey Observations

from Larry Brooks of the New York Post, - It does seem somewhat far-fetched, does it not, this scenario we tweeted midweek under which, A) Toronto general manager Kyle Dubas would leave the Maple Leafs on an expiring contract to take over the Penguins; B) He would bring coach Sheldon Keefe with…

kuklaskorner.com

In this article, Larry Brooks implies that Tom Fitzgerald needs to acquire a franchise goalie for the Devils and suggests Hellebuck from Winnipeg should be their main target. What if the B's made Ullmark available to them? What would you want from Jersey to make that deal?

 

[BlackFrancis]

Current Hockey Observations

from Larry Brooks of the New York Post, - It does seem somewhat far-fetched, does it not, this scenario we tweeted midweek under which, A) Toronto general manager Kyle Dubas would leave the Maple Leafs on an expiring contract to take over the Penguins; B) He would bring coach Sheldon Keefe with…

kuklaskorner.com

In this article, Larry Brooks implies that Tom Fitzgerald needs to acquire a franchise goalie for the Devils and suggests Hellebuck from Winnipeg should be their main target. What if the B's made Ullmark available to them? What would you want from Jersey to make that deal?

I believe trading an excellent goalie in-conference to a good team that has the potential to be great while your team hasn't even cratered out yet is somewhat foolish.

 

[vjcsmoke]

I say they go nuts.

Send Pastrnak to Pitt for Crosby and a first. Find a mammoth forward for the first line that knows where the front of the net is and how to park his ass there 5 on 5. Could be Maroon for all I care. Just be a nuisance in the ice and cause problems

You lost me at trading a 26 year old in his prime superstar winger Pastrnak for a 35 year old past his prime Crosby. David just scored 61 goals and 113 points with +34 plus/minus this past season. This move would be an idiotic and immediate sabotage of the Bruins future.

 

[vjcsmoke]

McAvoy needs to stay. Obvious.

Would like to keep Bertuzzi & Orlov. Orlov oozes enthusiasm.

Lindholm McAvoy
Orlov Carlo
Whoever

I’d move Ullmark if he can return a 1st +
Swayman is ready to take the reins. Frederic on the cheap, Lauko a regular.

DeBrusk, Coyle, Hall? Not sure. Hall had a great playoff. Coyle was solid. DeBrusk will want big money on his next contract, maybe move him while he’s got tons of value?

Grzelcyk meh. Zacha? Didn’t bring it in playoffs. They probably keep him just because of the uncertainty at center.

My core players:

Defense:

McAvoy + Orlov

Offense:

Pastrnak + Zacha

GK
Ullmark

Everyone else is expendable or available for trade for a roster upgrade.
In particular we need a new #1 center to carry this team into the next era.

 

[NDiesel]

I think the key to making the off-season work, is a trade where they flip Linus for a good, young defenseman on an ELC or bridge deal.

If they want to re-sign Bertuzzi, they have to clear Forbort and Gryz. That leaves them short a LD to play with McAvoy. They don't have the money to sign Bertuzzi and Orlov (or a replacement for Orlov), but they could sign Bert and bring in a cheap top4 D. That D doesn't have to be a young star, just a solid, mobile defensive D... like a young left handed Carlo. Not sure who that guy is yet (maybe Alex Vlasic from Chicago/BU?) but I think he'd be the keystone to making the cap work.

Bertuzzi ($6) - Zacha - Pasta
Marchand - Coyle - DeBrusk
Hall - Frederic ($2) - McLaughlin
Lauko - Beecher - Steen (or another vet at minimum cost)

Vlasic - McAvoy
Lindholm - Carlo
Lohrei - Schenn (or similar vet at minimum cost)

Swayman ($3.5)-Bussi

One thing I'd love for them to do is establish a clear identity for the 3rd and especially 4th line. Recently that line has basically just been a defensive focused 4th line with no clear identity IMO.

I like yours in that it seems that young, fast and a pain in the ass to play against is the identity, however I would like to see someone who can really lay the body in Steen's spot or even as the 13th forward to rotate in. Maybe they try Greer again there or sign a vet, but whoever it is at minimum they need some decent wheels to keep up with Lauko and Beecher.

 

[PlayMakers]

Current Hockey Observations

from Larry Brooks of the New York Post, - It does seem somewhat far-fetched, does it not, this scenario we tweeted midweek under which, A) Toronto general manager Kyle Dubas would leave the Maple Leafs on an expiring contract to take over the Penguins; B) He would bring coach Sheldon Keefe with…

kuklaskorner.com

In this article, Larry Brooks implies that Tom Fitzgerald needs to acquire a franchise goalie for the Devils and suggests Hellebuck from Winnipeg should be their main target. What if the B's made Ullmark available to them? What would you want from Jersey to make that deal?

Kevin Bahl (and picks).

Bahl is a 22 year old left shot D drafted in the 2nd round. He played 16-17 minutes a night in NJ’s third pair this year but he has top pair, shut down D potential. He was a dominant junior player (+50 one year), played on Canada’s WJC team, has two strong years in the AHL under his belt, and only makes $800k.

Bahl-McAvoy
Lindholm-Carlo
Lohrei-RD

There’s your Bertuzzi money.

 

[Sevendust]

I dont know, I have the feeling that we would regret it very soon if we would sign Bertuzzi to the contract he demands. Too much injuries and soon in his 30s and the biggest factor is, that the top priority for this team is to get some top 6 centers and cannot spend another big part of their cap on another winger.

 

[duffy]

My core players:

Defense:

McAvoy + Orlov

Offense:

Pastrnak + Zacha

GK
Ullmark

Everyone else is expendable or available for trade for a roster upgrade.
In particular we need a new #1 center to carry this team into the next era.

I would add Lindholm and Marshy to that list but I like what your saying.

 

[UncleRico]

One thing I'd love for them to do is establish a clear identity for the 3rd and especially 4th line. Recently that line has basically just been a defensive focused 4th line with no clear identity IMO.

I like yours in that it seems that young, fast and a pain in the ass to play against is the identity, however I would like to see someone who can really lay the body in Steen's spot or even as the 13th forward to rotate in. Maybe they try Greer again there or sign a vet, but whoever it is at minimum they need some decent wheels to keep up with Lauko and Beecher.

I think their identity is a defensive shut down group, no?

I feel like thats been the identity even back to Cassidy. 4th lines job has been defensive zone faceoffs and get the puck out of the defensive zone, dump it and line change.

 

[Gordoff]

Yeah the strategy seemed to be Montreal-esque and going by Coyle that one game letting himself get rag dolled would prove that I guess. This team was way better dictating and not letting themselves get pushed around. The play-offs were like the upside down.. just everything was completely different

Watching Coyle get bitch-slapped like that was pathetic. He prob thought that "turning the other cheek" would get the B's a PP but IIRC, it didn't. He should've beat the bag out of that guy but just stood there looking like a Sedin.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Watching Coyle get bitch-slapped like that was pathetic. He prob thought that "turning the other cheek" would get the B's a PP but IIRC, it didn't. He should've beat the bag of that guy but just stood there looking like a Sedin.

Has Coyle ever beat the bag out of anyone? Haha. He’s more of a gentle giant than Carlo.

 

[PlayMakers]

I dont know, I have the feeling that we would regret it very soon if we would sign Bertuzzi to the contract he demands. Too much injuries and soon in his 30s and the biggest factor is, that the top priority for this team is to get some top 6 centers and cannot spend another big part of their cap on another winger.

Next summer the cap could jump by $8m-10m. The cap is artificially low because the players are paying the owner’s back for keeping the lights on during Covid, but that goes away next summer. And the Bruins cap penalty goes away.

Long story short, the Bruins could have $14m in cap space next year.

 

[BlackFrancis]

Has Coyle ever beat the bag out of anyone? Haha. He’s more of a gentle giant than Carlo.

Absolute truth.

Coyle has one fight as a Bruin. He got the beating.

Actually, in one of Coyle's four career fights, he got owned by Joffrey Lupul, who was once injured by air conditioning.

Carlo's no bruiser, but he's no Charlie Coyle either.

 

[Fenian24]

Watching Coyle get bitch-slapped like that was pathetic. He prob thought that "turning the other cheek" would get the B's a PP but IIRC, it didn't. He should've beat the bag of that guy but just stood there looking like a Sedin.

I have always been "meh" on Coyle, thought he was a good, overpaid 3rd line center with little fire, that made me sick, it was Marshy vs the Sedins in 2011. Florida started physically dominating the Bruins in game 5 and kept it up.

And for the turn the other cheek crowd, what did Charlie or the Bruins gain from him getting smacked around by a guy 6 inches smaller and 40 lbs lighter? Nothing.

 

[BruinDust]

I have always been "meh" on Coyle, thought he was a good, overpaid 3rd line center with little fire, that made me sick, it was Marshy vs the Sedins in 2011. Florida started physically dominating the Bruins in game 5 and kept it up.

And for the turn the other cheek crowd, what did Charlie or the Bruins gain from him getting smacked around by a guy 6 inches smaller and 40 lbs lighter? Nothing.

I'm not part of the "turn the other cheek" crowd. But it's hard to ignore the fact that most of the frequent fighters in this league are golfing right now.

Of the Top 13 teams in terms of fighting, 9 of them didn't even make the playoffs. The other 4 got bounced in Round 1(including the Bruins). TB had 3 of the top 7 most-frequent fighters and got bounced by a Leaf team that people here keep claiming are uber-soft. TB lead the league in fights (37) vs. Toronto's 14, good for 25th place.

Conversely, 6 of the bottom 10 made the playoffs and 4 of them are still alive as we speak. The Carolina Hurricanes were the first team to advance to the semi-finals and had just 5 fights all season. Five.

It wasn't after-the-whistle where the Panthers beat the Bruins. It was how much faster and harder they played between the whistles that mattered.

 

[Yeti34]

I have always been "meh" on Coyle, thought he was a good, overpaid 3rd line center with little fire, that made me sick, it was Marshy vs the Sedins in 2011. Florida started physically dominating the Bruins in game 5 and kept it up.

And for the turn the other cheek crowd, what did Charlie or the Bruins gain from him getting smacked around by a guy 6 inches smaller and 40 lbs lighter? Nothing.

I’m more concerned about the fact that he disappeared in game 7. People shit on Krecji for being soft old slow etc., but he rose to the occasion.

Coyle good play for the most of the series is cancelled out by him disappearing for game 7.

 

[Mainehockey33]

I'm not part of the "turn the other cheek" crowd. But it's hard to ignore the fact that most of the frequent fighters in this league are golfing right now.

Of the Top 13 teams in terms of fighting, 9 of them didn't even make the playoffs. The other 4 got bounced in Round 1(including the Bruins). TB had 3 of the top 7 most-frequent fighters and got bounced by a Leaf team that people here keep claiming are uber-soft. TB lead the league in fights (37) vs. Toronto's 14, good for 25th place.

Conversely, 6 of the bottom 10 made the playoffs and 4 of them are still alive as we speak. The Carolina Hurricanes were the first team to advance to the semi-finals and had just 5 fights all season. Five.

It wasn't after-the-whistle where the Panthers beat the Bruins. It was how much faster and harder they played between the whistles that mattered.

No one is saying Coyle should be a bruiser that gets 14 fighting majors a season, just show some heart. To some players the playoffs look like just another day in the office.

 

[Fenian24]

I'm not part of the "turn the other cheek" crowd. But it's hard to ignore the fact that most of the frequent fighters in this league are golfing right now.

Of the Top 13 teams in terms of fighting, 9 of them didn't even make the playoffs. The other 4 got bounced in Round 1(including the Bruins). TB had 3 of the top 7 most-frequent fighters and got bounced by a Leaf team that people here keep claiming are uber-soft. TB lead the league in fights (37) vs. Toronto's 14, good for 25th place.

Conversely, 6 of the bottom 10 made the playoffs and 4 of them are still alive as we speak. The Carolina Hurricanes were the first team to advance to the semi-finals and had just 5 fights all season. Five.

It wasn't after-the-whistle where the Panthers beat the Bruins. It was how much faster and harder they played between the whistles that mattered.

While I would like to add a Lucic, Burroughs or Sabourin to the 4th line, 3rd d pair it's not what I am talking about, I just want Coyle and Carlo to not be literal punching bags.

I do feel adding guys like McBain, Accari, et al, fast, aggressive forecheckers is vital.,

 

[Over the volcano]

No one is saying Coyle should be a bruiser that gets 14 fighting majors a season, just show some heart. To some players the playoffs look like just another day in the office.

The Coyle who is a bruiser and willing to drop the gloves is named Frederic.

 

[UncleRico]

The Coyle who is a bruiser and willing to drop the gloves is named Frederic.

Too bad he didn’t show that in the playoffs for the second year in a row. We could have used it.