Player Discussion Morgan Rielly

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Timmins has the 4th most points/60 of our D. He's our second best goals against/60 D, while on the ice.

Benoit certainly is physical. He is also the worst of our seven D in possession, expected goals %, is the worst offensive player.

They are both limited players, for different reasons. Benoit is one of our 4 LD, the fourth best. Timmins is one of our 3 RD, the 2nd best. Benoit had a better year last year, but hasn't been good this year.

I’ll take physical in the playoffs over whatever you see in Timmins. He’ll be spinning like a top out there and falling down as soon as the temperature gets dialed up.

 

[TopCheeseShotta]

Not for nothing, but this Tampa game was Morgan's best game in what seems like a century.

Simple, nearly mistake free, a couple good finds and rushes on the O side, and not a single unforced icing!!!! Hahaaaa..

Good for him. Baby steps at this point.

 

[LeafEgo]

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I’ll take physical in the playoffs over whatever you see in Timmins. He’ll be spinning like a top out there and falling down as soon as the temperature gets dialed up.

Agreed, for whatever else they might be I see Timmy carrying a higher likelihood of being a liability and exploited in the playoffs versus Benny.

Ideally Benny sharpens up a bit down the stretch though.

 

[Blanche Blanche]

Not for nothing, but this Tampa game was Morgan's best game in what seems like a century.

Simple, nearly mistake free, a couple good finds and rushes on the O side, and not a single unforced icing!!!! Hahaaaa..

Good for him. Baby steps at this point.

Silver lining of positivity here. Sure. I get it.

But our best defenseman offensively and Defensively - Mccabe, is now playing NOT at 100% his best self on his off side. Bandaid solution here. BIG TIME.

Not a joke when you're talking about playing Florida in a best of 7.
NJ? Caps? Avs? Oilers? Stars?

Mccabe is going to make weaker pass plays because he needs to shelter our 7 Million dollar Dman.
WHAT A JOKE. With 7MIL we can get 2 guys who can play like OEL and we would be better off, and stop cycles much faster and start wearing out teams.

I'm glad everyone's starting to say him being a good guy, good locker room guy bla bla bla isn't good enough. A lot of guys have babys and still play fine FFS. Not an excuse. Millionaires can get another silent room FFS.Pasta just had one and he kicked our asses every year.

ITS NOT WORKING.

Time for management to grow a pair after 9 years and make some real moves. We aren't winning anything by sheltering 7 million dollars for a -14 dman.

 

[TopCheeseShotta]

Silver lining of positivity here. Sure. I get it.

But our best defenseman offensively and Defensively - Mccabe, is now playing NOT at 100% his best self on his off side. Bandaid solution here. BIG TIME.

Not a joke when you're talking about playing Florida in a best of 7.
NJ? Caps? Avs? Oilers? Stars?

Mccabe is going to make weaker pass plays because he needs to shelter our 7 Million dollar Dman.
WHAT A JOKE. With 7MIL we can get 2 guys who can play like OEL and we would be better off, and stop cycles much faster and start wearing out teams.

I'm glad everyone's starting to say him being a good guy, good locker room guy bla bla bla isn't good enough. A lot of guys have babys and still play fine FFS. Not an excuse. Millionaires can get another silent room FFS.Pasta just had one and he kicked our asses every year.

ITS NOT WORKING.

Time for management to grow a pair after 9 years and make some real moves. We aren't winning anything by sheltering 7 million dollars for a -14 dman.

I hear ya. Not a lot we can do in his case, unfortunately. So ya gotta give Craig a chance to see what he can do with a pretty bad and aging even worse contract situation we're in. If we can get tonight's performance out of him, and honestly - McCabe was stellar too on his off-side - then I guess Chief knows a thing or two, and we all need to hope for the best.

You're right --> The reality is we can't do without a better version of this player than he has shown to date - so we gotta hope he can work through the cobwebs in time to flip a switch for rhe playoffs. Last time he had a good playoff, he stunk in the regular season too - so let's hope it's at least a positive trend here again.

 

[sunstersun]

I hear ya. Not a lot we can do in his case, unfortunately. So ya gotta give Craig a chance to see what he can do with a pretty bad and aging even worse contract situation we're in. If we can get tonight's performance out of him, and honestly - McCabe was stellar too on his off-side - then I guess Chief knows a thing or two, and we all need to hope for the best.

You're right --> The reality is we can't do without a better version of this player than he has shown to date - so we gotta hope he can work through the cobwebs in time to flip a switch for rhe playoffs. Last time he had a good playoff, he stunk in the regular season too - so let's hope it's at least a positive trend here again.

Last time he had a bad regular season(last season) he had a bad playoffs so eh....

I'm just hoping for a clutch playoffs.

 

[NJG]

He isnt a great leader at all. What can he say to the room ? Dig in ? He doesnt dig in, He cant talk about "winning matters" because he does nothing to prove that. The way he plays he shouldnt be saying one word to that room.

Regardless, I just hope the team realizes he's a problem, and I think Berube does. I don't believe Berube really likes his game, as it doesn't align well with how he wants to play. Hopefully, we can get a trade done this year or next year.

 

[mapleleaf979]

Regardless, I just hope the team realizes he's a problem, and I think Berube does. I don't believe Berube really likes his game, as it doesn't align well with how he wants to play. Hopefully, we can get a trade done this year or next year.

I dont think u can trade him this year, he makes 10 million. Next year he makes 8 million. After that he has 4 years left and is paid 6 million per, while carrying a 7.5 million cap hit. Only a dummy like Dubas would want Reilly at that money.

 

[NJG]

I dont think u can trade him this year, he makes 10 million. Next year he makes 8 million. After that he has 4 years left and is paid 6 million per, while carrying a 7.5 million cap hit. Only a dummy like Dubas would want Reilly at that money.

You can trade anybody if you really wanted it done. Worse contracts have been traded/moved, he still has value just not with us.

 

[ACC1224]

You can trade anybody if you really wanted it done. Worse contracts have been traded/moved, he still has value just not with us.

How would that work in this case?

 

[NJG]

How would that work in this case?

By telling him he's not apart of the plan anymore, and then trading him... the same way it would work for any team trying to get rid of a player they no longer want... No player is going to stay somewhere they aren't wanted, if they make it clear to him they want to move on he will give the team his trade list.

 

[ACC1224]

By telling him he's not apart of the plan anymore, and then trading him... the same way it would work for any team trying to get rid of a player they no longer want... No player is going to stay somewhere they aren't wanted, if they make it clear to him they want to move on he will give the team his trade list.

I suppose it could happen but I'd be surprised that he would want to leave his teammates.
Players do enforce their NMC's though, not sure it happens all that often unless the team is out of the playoffs, looking to rebuild, player is pending UFA, stuff like that.

 

[Da Mash]

Hard to move a player if he wants to stay.
I mean we had so many posts about trading Marner and he wont waive and just hit free agency and there is nothing the team can do.

How about we just move Rielly to forward. I mean he plays no D.
A 6'1" 230lb winger sounds good. He can skate and even though he has no slap shot his wrist shot isnt bad.

Can he be any worse than Domi and the likes we have in our bottom six?

 

[TopCheeseShotta]

How about we just move Rielly to forward. I mean he plays no D.
A 6'1" 230lb winger sounds good. He can skate and even though he has no slap shot his wrist shot isnt bad.

Can he be any worse than Domi and the likes we have in our bottom six?

Ahhh.. the dream that never dies.

Would love to see it, but somehow / unfortunately - I doubt we ever will.

 

[mclaren55]

Huge fan of him, always thought he was miscast as a #1 guy here, and usually had shit partners (be objective, none of his partners have been first line material really). However his play this year is inexcusable. If he can't turn the ship around come playoffs we have to explore trading him.