Morgan Rielly cross check to the head of Ridley Greig (DOPS UPDATE: In Person Hearing - 6 games or more possible)

[Phrasing]

the person I was quoting wasn’t suggesting to come in with a shove. They suggested dropping the gloves and fighting. If you’re not going to read what I’m responding to why even bother responding yourself?

You quoted me…. And squaring up means fighting— not just shoves… you ok there? Take a breather. Sure you can get hurt in a fight but at least it won’t be a blindside stick to the head or cheapshot punch vs the traditional squaring up for a fight which is permissible in the NHL without suspension (just penalties).

 

[PaulD]

Leafs fans want to prevent the Senators from getting a core that can make the playoffs.

I would sign the Leafs up for losing all 4 if it keeps the Senators from finally getting a good core player.

only leaf fans talk about and compare "cores" .
Fans are as celf centered as Marner with all the " I like out core" quotes
ie - rest of leaf team ain't worth mentioning........until it's time to throw them under the bus

 

[Petrus]

It feels like the traffic has got a lot worse in recent years

I tried to dodge traffic by going late as possible. It was of no use.

 

[JimmyApples]

No, you as a poster thinking leafs 24/7
Keep at it. You make the perfect jester for us kings , the leaf fans.

I guess I think about y’all as much as y’all think about Ridley

 

[Micklebot]

Thanks for clarifying. I don’t see this much different than when someone lays out one of your players. What often happens is someone instigates (or jumps) the person throwing the hit. They don’t get in their face, drop their gloves, and make sure the other side is willing to engage. In the heat of the moment, you can’t expect someone to approach things they way that was suggested. This is hockey, people get heated and this is often what happens. Not saying it’s perfectly fine to accept, but it’s hockey and this is how players respond from time to time.

No, but you generally see the guy throw off their gloves and know they want to fight, and Rielly had a tone on time to throw the gloves off if he wanted to send a message, but he didn't do that, this isn't a guy that came flying in to defend a hurt player either this was a guy who's feelings were hurt by the way a guy scored. He was upset because he lost the game. The comparison to someone laying out one of your players is a terrible one,

Whether you want to engage or not they don't need to give you the option, but you still have the opportunity to defend yourself. Greig didn't get one. If someone was being particularly disrespectful, who really was it here?

Coming in high with a stick doesn't offer up that opportunity which is why it's generally frowned upon in modern society.

 

[JimmyApples]

Not really. Most playoff teams will have a losing in-season record against at least one terrible team. Congratulations on the variance working in your favor though. You should hang a banner like the Predators.

My feelings are as hurt as Mo Rielly’s now

 

[MikeyMike01]

Anything less than 20 games is inadequate

Not only is it dirty, it’s after the play is over

 

[Divine]

Anything less than 20 games is inadequate

Not only is it dirty, it’s after the play is over

Get ready for diappointment.

 

[NyQuil]

I would sign the Leafs up for losing all 4 if it keeps the Senators from finally getting a good core player.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Gino Reda now reporting that fans on HFBoards have made things worse for Rielly.

Parros to add 2 more games. Added to Keefe and Reeves' comments, Morgan is looking at 12 games.

 

[Sniper99]

I hope you have this same opinion next time your captain does something or retaliates in response to something other people here deem as trivial.

I think he gets at least 6 games, Hell I would laugh though if Rielly just gets what Trouba got for his batting practice with some dude's head and just gets a fine that way, the little poster you're replying to can cry wolf.

 

[NyQuil]

Gino Reda now reporting that fans on HFBoards have made things worse for Rielly.

Parros to add 2 more games. Added to Keefe and Reeves' comments, Morgan is looking at 12 games.

Now let’s see if we can collectively get Firefly back on television.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Now let’s see if we can collectively get Firefly back on television.

Ooh there's a blast from the past. I actually quite liked that.

 

[Micklebot]

Now let’s see if we can collectively get Firefly back on television.

idk, didn't some other social media app collectively cancel Joss Wheden, might be a tough nut to crack at this point.

 

[thefutures]

Is this brain dead play really any different from Dale Hunter's hit on Turgeon years ago? Stupid, useless things like this should be punished with the same predatory thinking as the offense itself.

How is this worse than swinging a stick at someone's head? It's not, and this potentially getting 6+ just shows the blatant incompetence the NHL has shown over and over again.

 

[CaptainUgly]

Hopefully you don't spell his name that way though.

On second thought that would actually be pretty damn funny.

It's probably one of those knock of jerseys from China to be fair.

 

[NyQuil]

idk, didn't some other social media app collectively cancel Joss Wheden, might be a tough nut to crack at this point.

Oh right, oh well.

 

[Sniper99]

???

Taking a crosscheck to the face is tough. The soft as butter people are the ones REEEEEEEing to deliver one.

I guess we might as well call him RiEEEEEEEEEEElly from now on.

If you want to look stupid, go right ahead.

 

[canadianmagpie]

Could they have more of a victim complex?

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The last time the Leafs had a player suspended for more than 5 games was Spezza (who successfully appealed his suspension to 4) in 2021-22 season. Carter Ashton was the one before that in the 2014-15 season for violating the drug policy.

Since then, there has been 29 suspensions of 6 games or more and the Leafs haven't had a player involved in one (I removed Spezza's from the count). It's ridiculous that they are claiming they're being targeted when their player does a stupid targeted cheap shot and now they're trying to get a shorter suspension because of it. Honestly, if I'm DoPS, I'm slapping him with a heavier suspension to punish the team for bringing the department into disrepute.

You can disagree with the suspension but if you try and pressure them into a shorter suspension based on no facts whatsoever, you deserve to be punished harder.

 

[Divine]

Could they have more of a victim complex?

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The last time the Leafs had a player suspended for more than 5 games was Spezza (who successfully appealed his suspension to 4) in 2021-22 season. Carter Ashton was the one before that in the 2014-15 season for violating the drug policy.

Since then, there has been 29 suspensions of 6 games or more and the Leafs haven't had a player involved in one (I removed Spezza's from the count). It's ridiculous that they are claiming they're being targeted when their player does a stupid targeted cheap shot and now they're trying to get a shorter suspension because of it. Honestly, if I'm DoPS, I'm slapping him with a heavier suspension to punish the team for bringing the department into disrepute.

You can disagree with the suspension but if you try and pressure them into a shorter suspension based on no facts whatsoever, you deserve to be punished harder.

Who says they're trying to pressure them into a shorter sentence?

Gary Bettman himself had to overrule Parros because he thought Spezza's suspension was unreasonable.

The Leafs want a fair sentence. They don't want another Spezza situation where Parros gets all overzealous and Gary Bettman has to come in and overrule him because the player won't get the missed game back.

 

[SK13]

An intentional cross-check to the face SHOULD be a massive long-term suspension AND fine AND come with mandatory anger management counselling. In any instance, ever. If that were the standard, this incident wouldn't have even happened. Reilly would not have compromised that much of his paycheck, his team and his life in that way to punish the barest, most minimal of "players code" offences.

As is, Reilly probably thought he may be risking a game or two in that moment, which is why he felt empowered to do it.

That leaves us with this weird situation where fans can argue for and against a big suspension here and both be right based on what the standard should be - but isn't.

 

[swiftwin]

Could they have more of a victim complex?

Videos - NHL, NBA, NFL, Super Bowl, CFL, MLB, Golf, Tennis, Soccer

The last time the Leafs had a player suspended for more than 5 games was Spezza (who successfully appealed his suspension to 4) in 2021-22 season. Carter Ashton was the one before that in the 2014-15 season for violating the drug policy.

Since then, there has been 29 suspensions of 6 games or more and the Leafs haven't had a player involved in one (I removed Spezza's from the count). It's ridiculous that they are claiming they're being targeted when their player does a stupid targeted cheap shot and now they're trying to get a shorter suspension because of it. Honestly, if I'm DoPS, I'm slapping him with a heavier suspension to punish the team for bringing the department into disrepute.

You can disagree with the suspension but if you try and pressure them into a shorter suspension based on no facts whatsoever, you deserve to be punished harder.

It's certainly amusing to see them whine about a victim complex when the Sens lost a 1st round pick and had a pretty good player suspended for 41 games off technicalities.

Who says they're trying to pressure them into a shorter sentence?

Gary Bettman himself had to overrule Parros because he thought Spezza's suspension was unreasonable.

The Leafs want a fair sentence. They don't want another Spezza situation where Parros gets all overzealous and Gary Bettman has to come in and overrule him because the player won't get the missed game back.

A fair sentence would have the Perron crosscheck which happened a couple months ago as a precedent. Not some obscure play that happened years ago.

 

[canadianmagpie]

Who says they're trying to pressure them into a shorter sentence?

Gary Bettman himself had to overrule Parros because he thought his suspension was unreasonable.

The Leafs want a fair sentence.

If you listen to it, they're complaining how the Leafs get picked on.

But if they want a fair sentence, then they should expect a minimum of 6 games. I believe it should be around 10 though. Rielly showed his immaturity by not being able to handle a guy slapping the puck into his net. If he had an issue with it, he drops the gloves. Not crosschecks a guy in the head.

 

[Divine]

If you listen to it, they're complaining how the Leafs get picked on.

But if they want a fair sentence, then they should expect a minimum of 6 games. I believe it should be around 10 though. Rielly showed his immaturity by not being able to handle a guy slapping the puck into his net. If he had an issue with it, he drops the gloves. Not crosschecks a guy in the head.

But the Leafs did get picked on with the Spezza suspension which was proven because it was overruled by commissioner of the NHL. There was no logic behind it.

Gary Bettman overruled it. Gary Bettman never overruled Parros before that.

Usually to get a sentence reduced Bettman will usually say I agree with my colleague and then the independent arbitrator would be the one to reduce it. It must be particularly bad for Gary Bettman to not stand with the man he hired to do the job.

 

[thefutures]

???

Taking a crosscheck to the face is tough. The soft as butter people are the ones REEEEEEEing to deliver one.

I guess we might as well call him RiEEEEEEEEEEElly from now on.

Asking for 6+ game suspension in this situation and lobbying for one is the real softness.