Morgan Rielly cross check to the head of Ridley Greig (DOPS UPDATE: In Person Hearing - 6 games or more possible)

[BraveCanadian]

If you took a shot every time a poster misspells Rielly’s name in this thread, you’d be dead by page 2

Hey it isn’t our fault he didn’t spell his own name correctly..

 

[TheNumber4]

BTW it's over for Greig. He has screwed his career. You heard it here first.

Lol. I think he’s increased his value with this move. I’d take him on the Oilers any day

 

[StumpyTown]

Is this brain dead play really any different from Dale Hunter's hit on Turgeon years ago? Stupid, useless things like this should be punished with the same predatory thinking as the offense itself.

 

[DearDiary]

I'm loving Keefe now

The point of a suspension is to prevent further behavior. When you and your coach believe your actions were right, that means that a much harsher punishment is needed.

 

[Peasy]

Lets clear things up, it barely touched the shoulder. The intent and target was the head.



Stop trying to play down the stick to the head.

Rielly's stick is hitting Greig's hand right here. Is his hand at his head height? Doesnt look like it to me. His actions resulted in a headshot, but I really doubt he intended for it to be a head shot initially.

 

[HabzSauce]

Lets clear things up, it barely touched the shoulder. The intent and target was the head.



Stop trying to play down the stick to the head.

nah it definitely hit his shoulder first. Not going to waste any more of my time with you so go watch the sportsnet feed and you'll see Rielly's stick brush off Grieg's shoulder before making contact with his head. Or agree to disagree i could care less

 

[SpezDispenser]

Yep, we know where you stand, we’ve seen your well thought out posts

I'm partial to the one where he asks who the hell Greig is.

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

context and intent are looked at, no matter how you slice it

Yup and in this context absolutely nothing against any rule was done especially anything that would justify a player crosschecking another player in the face, well after play was dead. You’re right that that context will be taken into consideration when determining the length of suspension Rielly will get. At least we can agree on something hey?

 

[Saltcreek]

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Rielly's stick is hitting Greig's hand right here. Is his hand at his head height? Doesnt look like it to me. His actions resulted in a headshot, but I really doubt he intended for it to be a head shot initially.

And the stick pushes through his hand and keeps going towards his head. It didnt even deflect upwards, the stick had that trajectory from the start. If his was intent was to hit the shoulder then he would not have to aim.....up.

 

[bluesfan94]

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Rielly's stick is hitting Greig's hand right here. Is his hand at his head height? Doesnt look like it to me. His actions resulted in a headshot, but I really doubt he intended for it to be a head shot initially.

You're gonna go crazy when you learn about slopes one day.

 

[HofT]

lets say it were actually true, wouldnt he , as a coach, communicate that to his team???

"hey guys, we're under the microscope. no bullshit between whistles, we need to keep it clean"

right? but we all know that isnt the truth and the leafs arent actual targets

if the leafs were targets, Reilly and Keefe are even bigger morons than they appear to be

Leafs aren't targets. They're made examples of. And yea, leafs are soft. Time for them to step up cause the refs and league are certainly not going to give them any favors. Too many eyes are watching so f it at this point

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

nah it definitely hit his shoulder first. Not going to waste any more of my time with you so go watch the sportsnet feed and you'll see Rielly's stick brush off Grieg's shoulder before making contact with his head. Or agree to disagree i could care less

In that video you can clearly see that it was directly into his face. I know you don't want it to, but you really should trust your eyes.

 

[HofT]

The point of a suspension is to prevent further behavior. When you and your coach believe your actions were right, that means that a much harsher punishment is needed.

Absolutely and its unfortunate the league doesn't apply that for every team.

 

[KevinRedkey]

How is this not decided yet but zadorov's gets a ruling same day??

I think it's because the hearing is scheduled for tomorrow.

 

[ToDavid]

No matter who is in charge of the DOPS, over a long interval some team will be at the top of the suspension list.

Yet, that doesn't mean that the guy in charge hates that team.

To be clear, I don’t think DoPS hates the Leafs. I think DoPS is first and foremost a PR department (and insiders have said as much) whose duty is to make sure the league doesn’t look bad. And I think the amount of publicity these incidents get when they involve the Leafs puts pressure on DoPS to set an example.

 

[BullyHockey]

I don't love what both players did.

Greig's slap shot was a bit of a "take that" "hot dog" action. It could be seen as a "celebration" of the goal and winning the game.

Deliberately striking a player in the head with a stick after the play is over is assault. It is not allowed in the rules; in fact it is regarded as a penalty with supplementary discipline that could be applied. It could even be viewed by the police in the jurisdiction where it occurred as an assault resulting in charges being laid. Such a thing has happened in the past.

If Greig was seriously injured, would that be an appropriate reason to go after Reilly with a stick swing to the head? No, of course not. It would be premeditated assault.

Rielly should get suspended, not sure how much, probably 3. His stick was too high, but I want emotion rather than the guy walking away or giving little face wash. But keep this in mind, hockey is a physical sport, players are trying to take each other's heads off. Guys are cross checking each other in the back without pads.

Also, did anyone here give a crap about Sens vs Leafs before now? This is what makes hockey interesting and really separates it from other sports, it's physical AND it's emotional; and sometimes people can cross the line; for both Greig and Rielly (despite one crossing more than the other). It's freaking hockey. You're free to disagree.

 

[Micklebot]

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Rielly's stick is hitting Greig's hand right here. Is his hand at his head height? Doesnt look like it to me. His actions resulted in a headshot, but I really doubt he intended for it to be a head shot initially.

I think it's pretty rare for a player to actually target the head, but in the end, he was aiming high coming in hot, it was incredibly reckless.

We're seeing lots of multi game suspensions when guys hit the head on otherwise legal checks because they didn't take the right angle of approach and ended up catching mostly head, in the end, you need to control what you're doing, Reilly came in after the play was over, and went hard with his stick, nothing even close to a hockey play gone wrong. There's really no valid excuse there, keep your stick out of the equation and nobody is complaining about what he did, the focus would be entirely on Greig taunting them and you'd have a positive story about the leafs responding, instead, you have guys like reeves coming off as psychopaths and lose your top Dman likely for 6 games.

 

[MCR74]

Rielly should get suspended, not sure how much, probably 3. His stick was too high, but I want emotion rather than the guy walking away or giving little face wash. But keep this in mind, hockey is a physical sport, players are trying to take each other's heads off. Guys are cross checking each other in the back without pads.

Also, did anyone here give a crap about Sens vs Leafs before now? This is what makes hockey interesting and really separates it from other sports, it's physical AND it's emotional; and sometimes people can cross the line; for both Greig and Rielly (despite one crossing more than the other). It's freaking hockey. You're free to disagree.

Obviously many posters are too young to remember the early 2000's, when the rivalry was on. What Rielly did is nothing compared to what Tucker and Domi could do.

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

Obviously many posters are too young to remember the early 2000's, when the rivalry was on. What Rielly did is nothing compared to what Tucker and Domi could do.

Hmmm…almost like times change or something.

 

[Bizzare]

Obviously many posters are too young to remember the early 2000's, when the rivalry was on. What Rielly did is nothing compared to what Tucker and Domi could do.

When we say early 2000’s do we mean before or after I could walk up to a gate in an airport without a boarding pass or ID?

 

[BullyHockey]

The point of a suspension is to prevent further behavior. When you and your coach believe your actions were right, that means that a much harsher punishment is needed.

Yeah, they are playing the politics poorly. They gotta be talking about "his stick rode up the shoulder", "Rielly isn't like that", "Grieg's play is not what hockey is about" ... Don't defend the play, defend the suspension that's probably coming. They're playing connect four instead of chess.

 

[TheNumber4]

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Rielly's stick is hitting Greig's hand right here. Is his hand at his head height? Doesnt look like it to me. His actions resulted in a headshot, but I really doubt he intended for it to be a head shot initially.

Lol okay CSI. Pause it a few frames forward and you’ll see Morgan get his hands up higher.

 

[NyQuil]

And who's fault is that? If their so-called fans can't be bothered to fill the arena, that's on them.

And if those Leaf fans are subjected to a slap shot into an EN, that’s on them.

 

[Raging Bull]

And if those Leaf fans are subjected to a slap shot into an EN, that’s on them.

Hey man, it's not our fault our team sucks!

 

[Saltcreek]

I think it's pretty rare for a player to actually target the head, but in the end, he was aiming high coming in hot, it was incredibly reckless.

We're seeing lots of multi game suspensions when guys hit the head on otherwise legal checks because they didn't take the right angle of approach and ended up catching mostly head, in the end, you need to control what you're doing, Reilly came in after the play was over, and went hard with his stick, nothing even close to a hockey play gone wrong. There's really no valid excuse there, keep your stick out of the equation and nobody is complaining about what he did, the focus would be entirely on Greig taunting them and you'd have a positive story about the leafs responding, instead, you have guys like reeves coming off as psychopaths and lose your top Dman likely for 6 games.

I start this with the statement that I do not think Rielly is a bad person and I do believe he regrets the headshot however I am fairly confident at the time of this hit he had completely lost his temper and intended to hit the head.

I agree with the rest of your post, if he would have just made it a light check, face wash and a couple light jabs then no one would have really cared.