Morgan Rielly cross check to the head of Ridley Greig (DOPS UPDATE: In Person Hearing - 6 games or more possible)

[theMajor]

Saying the truth is great leadership

lets say it were actually true, wouldnt he , as a coach, communicate that to his team???

"hey guys, we're under the microscope. no bullshit between whistles, we need to keep it clean"

right? but we all know that isnt the truth and the leafs arent actual targets

if the leafs were targets, Reilly and Keefe are even bigger morons than they appear to be

 

[MCR74]

Greig has overdone it a bit but I think first and foremost, he wanted to shut the huge crowd of Leafs fans in the stands in Ottawa. It is very annoying for the Sens to feel on the road when they face the Leafs or the Habs in their own arena.

As for Rielly, that was a stupid bonehead play.

And who's fault is that? If their so-called fans can't be bothered to fill the arena, that's on them.

 

[Micklebot]

How is this not decided yet but zadorov's gets a ruling same day??

There's no rush to decide because Tor doesn't play until Tues I believe. So they schedule the meeting for before that game, on a day that works with Reilly's schedule.

 

[Peasy]

How is this not decided yet but zadorov's gets a ruling same day??

ones an in person hearing, also one had them playing the next day.

 

[Gentle Man]

Bro just stop. Youre not even reading his posts correctly. He said the leafs had just traded for Gustafsson FROM washington, not that they were playing against them

So that excuses them from running up the score.

Got it

 

[1909]

And who's fault is that? If their so-called fans can't be bothered to fill the arena, that's on them.

And what's wrong with the slapshot anyway ?

 

[Saltcreek]

Bullshit. You've never played organized hockey.

Please tell me how you know that? Because I do not have buttery soft feelings and get all angry at the big evil man for hitting the itty bitty puck somewhat hard into the empty net?

 

[Peasy]

So that excuses them from running up the score.

Got it

Glad you finally caught on

Happy to help

 

[nturn06]

How is this not decided yet but zadorov's gets a ruling same day??

Zadarov had a game the following day, Parros had to rush.

And with the in-person hearing, Rielly is automatically suspended until the meeting. He can use the meeting to improve his case (or to shot himself in the foot, or get shot into the foot by Keefe), so no rulling until the meeting takes place.

 

[MCR74]

And what's wrong with the slapshot anyway ?

About the same that's wrong with filling the opposing team's barn.

 

[ACC1224]

Please tell me how you know that? Because I do not have buttery soft feelings that get all angry at the big evil man for hitting the itty bitty puck somewhat hard into the empty net?

Saying 'itty bitty' is the first clue.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Downtown NY though.

Shit! $5200 business class flight!

 

[Golden_Jet]

How is this not decided yet but zadorov's gets a ruling same day??

Hearing is tomorrow, and they know there is no rush, since he won’t be playing for 2 weeks.
Reilly has to travel to New York, Zadorov had to talk on the phone.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Not sure if this has been posted yet:

See my dude! He got drilled as a response 100% of the time.

 

[Cosmix]

Considering the NHL history and precedents; this is either a fine or a 10 game suspension. Who freaking knows anymore.

And man, people are just bitching in this whole thread. I loved what both players did. Hockey needs emotion again. The only bad thing here is there isn't another game cause the next time they play no one will remember this.

I don't love what both players did.

Greig's slap shot was a bit of a "take that" "hot dog" action. It could be seen as a "celebration" of the goal and winning the game.

Deliberately striking a player in the head with a stick after the play is over is assault. It is not allowed in the rules; in fact it is regarded as a penalty with supplementary discipline that could be applied. It could even be viewed by the police in the jurisdiction where it occurred as an assault resulting in charges being laid. Such a thing has happened in the past.

If Greig was seriously injured, would that be an appropriate reason to go after Reilly with a stick swing to the head? No, of course not. It would be premeditated assault.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

BTW it's over for Greig. He has screwed his career. You heard it here first.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Shit! $5200 business class flight!

Yup. I doubt he has to pay though lol

 

[HabzSauce]

Sure but in that sense, nobody has ever attempted to injure.

You could argue Bertuzzi just wanted to hurt his face but not hurt his career. He didn't want to break his neck..

Therefore $5,000 fine?

What exactly is your point?

Almost every guy who ever did something extremely dangerous would probably say it was stupid looking back but they were in the moment and upset and the game is fast and blah blah blah.

Doesn't mean there shouldn't be massive suspensions handed down.

Pretend the definition says "attempt an illegal action that has a high chance of creating injury" and it will give you some peace of mind, if that makes any sense.

That's a fair point and I agree with that but my whole focus this entire time was specifically about the "intent to injure".

It makes it sound way worse than it actually was. It's dishonest and exaggerates it even more. I'm not a fan of that type of discussion especially when people refuse to acknowledge that and instead double/triple down on their stance just to prove a point. It's pure emotional so I appreciate you being able to see that POV at least. You're the first poster on the other side of things that I've debated on this thread to actually acknowledge that so respect lol

Bertuzzi incident is a whole other story because of the end result but it's the same thing with intent - If people were saying he had a deliberate intent to end his career I'd be calling them out too. You can say it was reckless, careless, stupid etc but intent to paralyze? I call BS.

I never spoke on how many games Rielly should get BUT since we're talking about it, I'd personally give Rielly 2 games. I honestly don't think it was that dangerous when looking at the force of his check and how it hit Grieg's shoulder first. Which is another reason why I don't like this whole "intent to injure" talk - just takes the reality of the situation out of context even further. Perron's crosscheck for example was way more dangerous in my opinion - had a lot more force to it and clocked him right in the neck. That's just me though

 

[Micklebot]

BTW it's over for Greig. He has screwed his career. You heard it here first.

annoying the leafs and their fans really ruined Marchands career.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Bullshit. You've never played organized hockey.

Lookout! We’ve got a hockey player here

 

[Golden_Jet]

BTW it's over for Greig. He has screwed his career. You heard it here first.

Yep, we know where you stand, we’ve seen your well thought out posts

 

[Puck Tiss]

Yeah - it was the exact same.

Pejorative Slur.

Its not that far off. It was a predatory hit against a vulnerable player. The only reason the Moore hit is brought up all the time is because he was permanently injured. The play by Rielly was the same, but thankfully it had a better outcome.

 

[Green]

Not sure if this has been posted yet:

That is awesome, is the canoe even allowed, would be awesome to see that

 

[Saltcreek]

That's a fair point and I agree with that but my whole focus this entire time was specifically about the "intent to injure".

It makes it sound way worse than it actually was. It's dishonest and exaggerates it even more. I'm not a fan of that type of discussion especially when people refuse to acknowledge that and instead double/triple down on their stance just to prove a point. It's pure emotional so I appreciate you being able to see that POV at least. You're the first poster on the other side of things that I've debated on this thread to actually acknowledge that so respect lol

Bertuzzi incident is a whole other story because of the end result but it's the same thing with intent - If people were saying he had a deliberate intent to end his career I'd be calling them out too. You can say it was reckless, careless, stupid etc but intent to paralyze? I call BS.

I never spoke on how many games Rielly should get BUT since we're talking about it, I'd personally give Rielly 2 games. I honestly don't think it was that dangerous when looking at the force of his check and how it hit Grieg's shoulder first. Which is another reason why I don't like this whole "intent to injure" talk - just takes the reality of the situation out of context even further. Perron's crosscheck for example was way more dangerous in my opinion - had a lot more force to it and clocked him right in the neck. That's just me though

Lets clear things up, it barely touched the shoulder. The intent and target was the head.



Stop trying to play down the stick to the head.

 

[Petrus]

Washington? Huh?

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The Leafs traded Sandin to Washington. Sandin plays PP. Gustafsson was playing the 7th dman to get him acclimated to the PP role.

This is why he played a lot during the game with the Habs.