Morgan Rielly cross check to the head of Ridley Greig (DOPS UPDATE: In Person Hearing - 6 games or more possible)

[Commander Clueless]

Fold the franchise.

 

[LeProspector]

6 games? but… but… Martin Biron said it would just be a fine LOL

 

[Petrus]

Thought it would be 4, leaning towards 6 now that it's an in-person hearing. I bet the fact it was after the whistle is going to end up being a determining factor in the length.

The Perron suspension made for a pretty easy case it should be 6. Pre-mediate cross checks to the head now have a precedent and the only thing different about this one is that it was over hurt feelings instead of a hurt player.

It should be 6-10. Crosschecking to the head should be eliminated from the game all together premeditated or not.

 

[CowbellConray]

Some people in here who didn't live through the real Battle of Ontario in the early 2000s would need a therapist to deal with what happened in the regular season games and playoffs between the leafs and Sens if they can't handle what happened last night. This was just a love tap in comparison

But we don’t live in those times anymore, a new
Precedent has been set by the league

 

[jbeck5]

Listen, the kid is pest, I get it. Fact of the matter is he went too far in an emotional game for the sens. He’ll learn from it. Ottawa will be better when he picks his spots better. Guarantee he’s already been told by Giroux, Brady, Jacques or Staios to toe the line in that situation.

They were high fiving him. Alfie was grinning from ear to ear. The players gave Ridley the player of the game helmet.

I think it's safe to say your comment is way wrong.

 

[jbeck5]

The game wasn't over in Rielly's case either. There was still another faceoff.

Perron had 2 aggravating factors:

A history of crosschecking leading to a fine.
Zubb was injured.

Not disputing the above, but another factor to consider:

The NHL is trying to dissuade players from headshots.

What do you do if players keep headshotting each other? Raise the punishment as deterrent.

Perron got 6 games and players are still going out of their way to headshot players after the whistle? The NHL might think "clearly 6 games isn't working enough..let's try X amount more" and see if players are still willing to skate across the ice to head shot someone after the whistle.

If it still keeps happening it's only logical to keep making the punishment stiffer in response.

 

[Fatass]

Perron got six. Reilly will get six. I wonder what Reilly’s excuses will include when in the hearing? Will he say, “Grieg embarrassed the Leafs”? Or “Grieg taunted the Leafs”?

 

[ZEBROA]

He will probably get 10 games too scare others from doing the same. Toronto is a great way to get messages like that through so it could be way more games. It is worthless to set an example of a player in Panthers or Kracken, noone cares. This stuff make both Leaf fans and haters care. Thats the majority of all NHL fans and there clubs.

As a Leaf fan i dont think R had his best moment. Could have choosen to handle it in a smarter way for his team.

And Greigs act is overrated. It was a nothing blown way out of proportions by Reillys actions. But i wish Toronto trade for him. Just for fun. We need a lockerroom agitator to make the team angry before they go out on the ice. He might do the trick.

I disslike some teams, Ottawa aint one of them right now. Maby in the future.

 

[jbeck5]

He could have but that doesn't mean that was his intent.

Actual Intent to send someone to the IR is rare man. Takes a total scum bag to want to injure someone. You wanna make it hurt but not so bad that they get injured. I'd give even the rattiest players this benefit of the doubt

Lol what?

I agree with you generally...but when you skate halfway across the ice to deliver punishment after the whistle, you're clearly trying to make it hurt with illegal actions. You're not skating over to shake his hand and tell him you don't like that.

 

[FrankerC]

 

[Face Of Bear]

cant believe people have had two days to let this simmer and STILL think Rielly did something wrong.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I imagine it will be in the 4-6 range. They were debating if there should be an in-person hearing, so that makes me think theyre thinking in that range. But honestly wouldnt be shocked if he gets 10.

10? For a first time offense?

That's to much

 

[Number8]

He's screwed.

It's Dale Hunter territory. The League just cannot allow someone to blatantly crush someone into boards or crosscheck someone in the head after play is over.

Mentally week play by Reilly.

 

[Petrus]

The difference is during the play, you have some benefit of doubt that you went for a legal hit, and due to the speed of the game, missed and got some head.

With this incident, it would have been illegal to go body check Greig too...so there's zero excuse of an attempt at a clean hockey play gone wrong.

That's why they're clearly different. With this situation, there's no excuses.



No, he was trying to go whisper sweet nothings into his ear, you're totally right.

He wanted little kisses.

I fully understand and appreciate the distinction.

There should be zero reason for any player to put two hands on a stick and drive it to someone’s head in play or not.

Trying to dislodge an opposing player in-front of the goalie should not be an excuse to cross check someone in the head. At is today, it is 2 penalty minutes if caught vs cross checks what we’ve seen against Zub and Greig. That is quite the gap in terms of punishment when risk of injury is the same and in light of what we know now on the lasting impact of repeated hits to the head does to one’s quality of life after their playing career.

That has to change.

 

[Kairi Zaide]

Bah gawd that's Paul MacLean! He's back!

 

[Rob Brown]

Fold the franchise.

Yes, let's fold the most valuable franchise in the league. That sounds like a brilliant business decision.

Perron got six. Reilly will get six. I wonder what Reilly’s excuses will include when in the hearing? Will he say, “Grieg embarrassed the Leafs”? Or “Grieg taunted the Leafs”?

Impressive for you to spell both names wrong.

 

[Petrus]

I love comments like this. The saltiness is strong.

Consider this: the basement dwelling Senators won the season series 3-1 vs the Leafs. If the Leafs end up missing the playoffs, these 6 points will probably be what did them in.

The Senators have 2 less regulation wins than the Leafs, and have 2 games in-hand. Again, we're comparing the basement dwelling, terrible Sens vs the cup contender Leafs.

I think, rather than this being the high point of Ottawa's season, this is probably the point of the season where Leaf fans begin to realize just how fragile their club is.

The Leafs have been mentally weak long before this incident.

 

[Suntouchable13]

cant believe people have had two days to let this simmer and STILL think Rielly did something wrong.

Greig didn’t do anything wrong himself. Maybe the Leafs need to do some self reflection and think about why nobody shows them any respect around the league

 

[Edgelord]

Considering the history involved with the Leafs name, you would think they would be more violent.
I bet most people don't know this but the Leafs are called the Leafs due to the terror the Germans had of the soldiers that wore the Maple Leaf in WW1.
As a matter of fact almost half the Geneva Convention exists due to crap the Canadians did in WW1.
The more you know lol

 

[Johnny Rifle]

I’m saying slapping a puck in the open net is a classy move but it’s a hockey play and completely within the rulebook. Not worth risking someone’s long-term health over for cheap retribution over something that’s so stupid.

I’d say 6-10 games, leaning towards six.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

The hockey culture of being offended, throwing tantrums and resorting to cheap shots needs to end.

I mean why didn't reilly square up? or say hey! and punch him in the face , its the only place on earth outside of a ring where you're actually allowed to square up with somebody and feed him his lunch lmao. Coward stuff

 

[saintunspecified]

The significant difference between this and Dale Hunter is that Turgeon was injured.

I even think Turgeon was attacked because of a 'code' violation (of a different kind relating to his refusal to brawl at the WJC). So justified by macho hockey lifers. If the suspension wasn't something the new commissioner was forced to deal it wouldn't have gone as it did.

I think it should be 15 games, and suspend the coach 3-5 games for justifying what he did. Of course, it won't happen till macho lifers like Parros get purged.

 

[HabzSauce]

Lol what?

I agree with you generally...but when you skate halfway across the ice to deliver punishment after the whistle, you're clearly trying to make it hurt with illegal actions. You're not skating over to shake his hand and tell him you don't like that.

We're arguing semantics at this point.

Again there's a distinct difference between acting out of emotion and wanting to make it hurt vs deliberately trying to end someone's career. That's how I see it. Rielly was pissed and wanted to give it back to Grieg. Wether or not he crossed the line is up for debate but that doesn't mean he wanted to break his jaw or give him a concussion. It's heat of the moment - rage and emotion. Make it hurt yes but nobody wants to cross that pain threshold and purposely injure other players.

Only guy I can think of in recent history that could maybe fit that bill is matt Cooke. Rielly ain't that dude

 

[saintunspecified]

I mean why didn't reilly square up? or say hey! and punch him in the face , its the only place on earth outside of a ring where you're actually allowed to square up with somebody and feed him his lunch lmao. Coward stuff

Why not punch the ground when a bit of broken glass cuts one's dragging knuckles?

 

[inthewings]

Stopped in to see if Leafs fans are still seething mad over someone shooting the puck too hard into an empty net, while at the same time 100% OK with someone getting cross checked in the face. Seems like a yes on both accounts.