Morgan Rielly cross check to the head of Ridley Greig (DOPS UPDATE: In Person Hearing - 6 games or more possible)

[Snubbed4Vezina]

Just out of curiosity can you explain to me how this is different than Perrons crosscheck. He got pissed and crosschecked a player in the head/neck. Same thing happened here.....

Perron got 6....why is this only 2 in your opinion?

I’d have to watch that play again (saw it when it happened live) but if I recall Zub didn’t do anything and Perron’s cross check to the head was more violent.

Honestly I was surprised he got a sixer.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

What Greig did was STUPID. I don't know how you get to the pro leagues and not know that showing up your opponents when you've already won is not a good idea and can likely get you in trouble. Why do you think leagues have rules against excessive taunting? 'Well its just words why so angry?' Because people don't like getting taunted especially when they're down which can lead to players getting heated and angry and responding physically.

You can't possibly tell me that if a Leafs player fired a puck into an empty net like that when they've already won the game that the Sens wouldn't have responded as well. Players from every team in the league would've responded in a similar manner.

Players nowadays celebrate a goal like they're never gonna score another one. I don't understand how that is any different. You just buried the other team and dance around like a monkey high on crack screaming and yelling, but a mute slapping a puck in is an egregious thing.

So many things happen all the time that are much worse than what Greig did and dont get the reaction it did.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

In the NFL the running back or receiver will do a a freaking flip in the endzone if he goes in uncontested. Only in the NHL do small peepees get ruffled by how you score an empty net. Don't like it? Do a better job defending to prevent it. Being a petty crybaby after the fact makes you look like a clown, and now the Leafs are going to suffer for likely over 5 games without their #1D. The idiocy at work here is through the roof.

Don’t like getting punched? Don’t throw the first one.

 

[Petrus]

They have different equipment and skates. So they're maneuverability and balance is greatly compromised in a tussle. Their equipment is also designed to stop a puck, but not as good for certain collisions. Especially their helmet.

As a kid the best skaters on the team are goalies. They have superb skating, balance technique and very agile. Maybe it differs the NHL since every player is top percentile.

 

[GQS]

Do you know anything about Greig? This entire situation is playing out exactly how he’s wanted it to. Why wouldn’t he do it again?

If he wants to get another team's players coming after him for doing the same thing then sure go do it again, but I seriously doubt he'll have the balls to actually do so the next time he gets a chance at an empty netter.

 

[dirtydanglez]

Do you know anything about Greig? This entire situation is playing out exactly how he’s wanted it to. Why wouldn’t he do it again?

its gonna end up with him or his teammates getting run. i imagine a vet or coach will take him aside privately. there is a reason why you rarely see it happen.

 

[jbeck5]

As a kid the best skaters on the team are goalies. They have superb skating, balance technique and very agile. Maybe it differs the NHL since every player is top percentile.

Maybe when they go out with player skates.

Goalie skates have blades meant to dig when in a butterfly but to be able to slide alot when standing more straight legged. That is a disadvantage in a fight.

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

I hope players tee up slapshots for every empty net goal on Toronto until the end of time.

 

[JimmyApples]

If he wants to get another team's players coming after him for doing the same thing then sure go do it again, but I seriously doubt he'll have the balls to actually do so the next time he gets a chance at an empty netter.

He’s a shit disturber and troll. Players going at him is exactly what he wants

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Also love how a good number of Leafs fans are now starting to scream about Parros 'going out of his way to punish the Leafs because of the Orr fight' and that there's a DOPS vendetta against the team.

There's no vendetta
They're not out to get you
Stop being crazies.

Rielly deserves a suspension. None of that changes Parros’ track record with anything Leaf related. It’s there in black and white.

 

[Commander Clueless]

They have different equipment and skates. So they're maneuverability and balance is greatly compromised in a tussle. Their equipment is also designed to stop a puck, but not as good for certain collisions. Especially their helmet.

Their skates are sharpened differenly. They can bite the ice when standing at an angle like a butterfly but are made to slide across better. They are like two 90° angles and flat at the bottom whereas player skates are concave which gives the corners more bite. So you can hold your grown when being pushed and pulled.

At least with two goalies it's fair game.

Go watch Emery vs Peter's. You'll see that emery couldn't even get a swing in because he can't really move his arms across as well because of the huge chest protector.

Collisions I always understood. But yeah makes sense.

 

[Danarqhy]

Don’t like getting punched? Don’t throw the first one.

What? Didn't Reilly throw the first "punch", the cross check right to the head?

 

[Natey]

I’d have to watch that play again (saw it when it happened live) but if I recall Zub didn’t do anything and Perron’s cross check to the head was more violent.

Honestly I was surprised he got a sixer.

Greig didn't do anything except shoot the puck in the net. He broke no rule.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

What? Didn't Reilly throw the first "punch", the cross check right to the head?

He certainly threw the last one.

Greig didn't do anything except shoot the puck in the net. He broke no rule.

There actually is a rule in the book that addresses it.

 

[GQS]

Players nowadays celebrate a goal like they're never gonna score another one. I don't understand how that is any different. You just buried the other team and dance around like a monkey high on crack screaming and yelling, but a mute slapping a puck in is an egregious thing.

So many things happen all the time that are much worse than what Greig did and dont get the reaction it did.

Its MUCH different because 1) your team is already winning and 2) you're scoring onto an empty net with no one around you and you STILL take a slapshot like that at point blank range? You have to be stupid not to think that wouldn't get the other team's players pissed at you.

For the most part no one cares if you celebrate a goal during regular play or if you score a OT winner and go wild. People DO CARE if you score a goal and then skate by the other team's bench and taunt them or celebrate in front of their faces. Its the same thing here. Shoot the puck into an empty net like it happens hundreds of times a year and no one cares much. Fire a puck into the net like that and yeah people are going to take exception.

 

[Petrus]

He certainly threw the last one.


There actually is a rule in the book that addresses it.

Are you referring to this:

Rule 11.1 – Unsportsmanlike Conduct​

Unsportsmanlike Conduct includes disrespectful behaviour, which is conduct deemed rude, unpleasant, inappropriate, or unprofessional and found to be offensive to others, but not rising to the level of conduct described in Rule 11.4 – Discrimination. Unsportsmanlike conduct may also include, but is not limited to, the following actions, which will be penalized at the discretion of the Referee:

1. Challenging or disputing an official’s decision in an unsportsmanlike manner.
2. Use of derogatory language that may be offensive to any individual.
3. Deliberately spraying snow from their skates into an opponent’s face (e.g. “spraying” the goaltender).
4. Shooting the puck at or near the goal after the whistle.
5. Shooting the puck out of the playing area, after the whistle.
6. Engaging in any inappropriate or unwanted discussion with the referee, following the game.
7. Any behaviour intended to incite an opponent into incurring a penalty.
8. Any other display of unsportsmanlike behaviour that would be considered disorderly or contrary to the spirit of the game.

 

[GQS]

He’s a shit disturber and troll. Players going at him is exactly what he wants

Good for him. I'll be waiting to see what he does the next time he has a breakaway chance to score a empty netter with no one around him.

 

[jbeck5]

Agreed, the appropriate response to someone hurting my daughter would be something that isn’t legal and could get me in trouble.

Not right, not the way some people would do it, maybe not even ethical. But it is appropriate.

I see what Keefe was saying and agree.

You're comparing someone getting hurt to a net getting hurt though. Not exactly the same thing.

As if someone is comparing taking a Slapshot into an empty net to someone hurting someone's daughter and then justifying the retaliation.

What world are we living in here. So bizarre.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Are you referring to this:

Rule 11.1 – Unsportsmanlike Conduct​

Unsportsmanlike Conduct includes disrespectful behaviour, which is conduct deemed rude, unpleasant, inappropriate, or unprofessional and found to be offensive to others, but not rising to the level of conduct described in Rule 11.4 – Discrimination. Unsportsmanlike conduct may also include, but is not limited to, the following actions, which will be penalized at the discretion of the Referee:

1. Challenging or disputing an official’s decision in an unsportsmanlike manner.
2. Use of derogatory language that may be offensive to any individual.
3. Deliberately spraying snow from their skates into an opponent’s face (e.g. “spraying” the goaltender).
4. Shooting the puck at or near the goal after the whistle.
5. Shooting the puck out of the playing area, after the whistle.
6. Engaging in any inappropriate or unwanted discussion with the referee, following the game.
7. Any behaviour intended to incite an opponent into incurring a penalty.
8. Any other display of unsportsmanlike behaviour that would be considered disorderly or contrary to the spirit of the game.

Yup

 

[Petrus]

Good for him. I'll be waiting to see what he does the next time he has a breakaway chance to score a empty netter with no one around him.

That would be interesting. Love to see it and the take here in the boards will be hilarious.

 

[Natey]

He certainly threw the last one.


There actually is a rule in the book that addresses it.

There is not a rule. Stop lying.

If there was, slap shots would be banned. Michigan's would be banned. Spins would be banned.

They're not because it's not against the rules.

You're just letting the salt come through.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Its MUCH different because 1) your team is already winning and 2) you're scoring onto an empty net with no one around you and you STILL take a slapshot like that at point blank range? You have to be stupid not to think that wouldn't get the other team's players pissed at you.

For the most part no one cares if you celebrate a goal during regular play or if you score a OT winner and go wild. People DO CARE if you score a goal and then skate by the other team's bench and taunt them or celebrate in front of their faces. Its the same thing here. Shoot the puck into an empty net like it happens hundreds of times a year and no one cares much. Fire a puck into the net like that and yeah people are going to take exception.

Well, its picking and choosing imo. And protected by an unwritten code that is constantly being bent to someones will whenever this stuff comes up. I don't get it. Its completely foreign to me why this would piss anyone off more than 100 other things that happen in game. I wouldn't have batted an eye anymore than a team spanking us 5-0 and still celebrating goal 5. Might get a f*** you loser out of me.

 

[Fatass]

Do I give a shit? Playing a sport doesn't make every opinion you have on that sport automatically valid. People who've played once thought helmets and visors were stupid.

Yup. It was once believed goalies shouldn’t wear a mask because they wouldn’t be able to see the puck in their feet.

 

[featherhawk]

He certainly threw the last one.


There actually is a rule in the book that addresses it.

Addresses what?

 

[Fatass]

Well, it’s picking and choosing imo. And protected by an unwritten code that is constantly being bent to someone’s will whenever this stuff comes up. I don't get it. It’s completely foreign to me why this would piss anyone off more than 100 other things that happen in game. I wouldn't have batted an eye anymore than a team spanking us 5-0 and still celebrating goal 5. Might get a f*** you loser out of me.

Yup. Reilly should have taken his lumps and lived to fight another day. He made a stupid, and selfish mistake. Now his club is going to have to fight for the playoffs without him.