Confirmed with Link: Morgan Frost new contract 2 x $2.1m

[ponder719]

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[Sombastate]

Frost at 2 is very reasonable. Wish it was longer

 

[Rich Nixon]

I'da gone 6x$4m for Frost in a heartbeat. Not sure what 2x$2m gets you.

 

[Lord Defect]

Guess we’re hurting for money to get him to sign longer.

 

[ponder719]

I'da gone 6x$4m for Frost in a heartbeat. Not sure what 2x$2m gets you.

Two years to convince him not to walk to UFA and leave for nothing?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[Magua]

Seems pricey.

 

[sauce88]

Elongated is the superior toilet seat.

 

[BillDineen]

Less than Cates. Flyers gonna fly

 

[Magua]

What sort of rebuilding team, with ready cap space -- that says it'll be competing in 3 years -- bridges every single young player, so that their pay raises coincide with competing? The Flyers brass is basing the express rebuild on how much they value the current young players on the roster, yet, they don't have any interest in betting on a single one. Does it make sense? Of course not. Nothing makes sense.

Less than Cates. Flyers gonna fly

Well, you see, Cates produced more last season. Okay, he didn't. But hear me out! Tortorella will put Cates below Frost on the depth chart. Look at their usage on odd days in odd months since January. Probably. Maybe. Who knows. But if he doesn't, Frost only has himself to blame.

 

[deadhead]

I'da gone 6x$4m for Frost in a heartbeat. Not sure what 2x$2m gets you.

But would Frost had accepted that? In two years, at 26, he'll be negotiating his one big contract, if he thinks last season's finish was his norm, he'd be looking at something on the order of 6x6. If he takes 6x4 now, he'd be negotiating his next deal at 30 and have to make another $16M over two years to break even.

What sort of rebuilding team, with ready cap space -- that says it'll be competing in 3 years -- bridges every single young player, so that their pay raises coincide with competing? The Flyers brass is basing the express rebuild on how much they value the current young players on the roster, yet, they don't have any interest in betting on a single one. Does it make sense? Of course not. Nothing makes sense.



Well, you see, Cates produced more. Okay, he didn't. But hear me out! Tortorella will put Cates below Frost on the depth chart. Probably. Maybe. Who knows. But if he doesn't, Frost only has himself to blame.

Cates produced more WAR. But advanced metrics don't matter until they agree with you, I guess?

 

[FlyerNutter]

Good deal.

Like the player for sure but not a fan for more long ass contracts for secondary bullshit.

Hope he develops more.

Pay for talent, don’t overpay the vanilla.

 

[BiggE]

Good deal for both sides. Why it took all summer? Beats me.

What sort of rebuilding team, with ready cap space -- that says it'll be competing in 3 years -- bridges every single young player, so that their pay raises coincide with competing? The Flyers brass is basing the express rebuild on how much they value the current young players on the roster, yet, they don't have any interest in betting on a single one. Does it make sense? Of course not. Nothing makes sense.



Well, you see, Cates produced more last season. Okay, he didn't. But hear me out! Tortorella will put Cates below Frost on the depth chart. Look at their usage on odd days in odd months since January. Probably. Maybe. Who knows. But if he doesn't, Frost only has himself to blame.

Frost can now relax and just dream about centering Hathaway and Laughton

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

I'm not going to lie - I find it very difficult to care.

 

[Beef Invictus]

What sort of rebuilding team, with ready cap space -- that says it'll be competing in 3 years -- bridges every single young player, so that their pay raises coincide with competing? The Flyers brass is basing the express rebuild on how much they value the current young players on the roster, yet, they don't have any interest in betting on a single one. Does it make sense? Of course not. Nothing makes sense.



Well, you see, Cates produced more last season. Okay, he didn't. But hear me out! Tortorella will put Cates below Frost on the depth chart. Look at their usage on odd days in odd months since January. Probably. Maybe. Who knows. But if he doesn't, Frost only has himself to blame.

I wonder what players actually want to be here

 

[BiggE]

I wonder what players actually want to be here

Fisto

 

[Rebels57]

I'm not going to lie - I find it very difficult to care.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

I don't mind bridge contracts in a vacuum, but I do find it bizarre how Flyers management has decided to bridge almost every young player, no matter who has been the GM in recent years.

His QO will be $2.4M, which gives both sides room to lock in a reasonable long/mid term deal if Frost has two successive years of improvement.

Not sure how this plays into their aspirations of being competitive roughly at the end of this contract, though. Won't matter if Torts is still behind the bench (theoretically, though maybe collecting a coach's cheque from the press box).

 

[kudymen]

But advanced metrics don't matter until they agree with you, I guess?

What're you talking about? They only matter when you make a super long paragraph with about a dozen advanced figures without taking any piece of context into consideration - or even better, ignoring it. That's how one uses them.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Frost did short term so he can bail cuz he knows Torts will only give him shit linemates/TIO.

in fact he will prolly get healthy scratched alot so shit Vet old dogs can play the right way...

 

[Beef Invictus]

But would Frost had accepted that? In two years, at 26, he'll be negotiating his one big contract, if he thinks last season's finish was his norm, he'd be looking at something on the order of 6x6. If he takes 6x4 now, he'd be negotiating his next deal at 30 and have to make another $16M over two years to break even.


Cates produced more WAR. But advanced metrics don't matter until they agree with you, I guess?

You've spent a lot of time assuring us you have a background that lets you understand basic stats, so that let's me know you're deliberately lying to defend Flyers decisions.

Is it good when you can only defend something with lies?

 

[tnfrs]

Short term for Frost and Cates I dont mind, theres no need to commit to anybody if youre rebuilding. they may both have stellar years, they may both shit the bed, and if Gauthier keeps developing as a center maybe he takes one of their spots in 2025. I wouldnt put it past Frost to find another level of his game though, sometimes it takes longer to build up ur dad strength. google morgan frost and the default image he looks like hes not a day older than jett deschamps when he was 18.

 

[FLYguy3911]

 

[deadhead]

I don't mind bridge contracts in a vacuum, but I do find it bizarre how Flyers management has decided to bridge almost every young player, no matter who has been the GM in recent years.

His QO will be $2.4M, which gives both sides room to lock in a reasonable long/mid term deal if Frost has two successive years of improvement.

Not sure how this plays into their aspirations of being competitive roughly at the end of this contract, though. Won't matter if Torts is still behind the bench (theoretically, though maybe collecting a coach's cheque from the press box).

They've bridged three players, Tippett, Cates and Frost, all of whom lack any sort of track record.
It makes perfect sense to wait and see if they're for real or one year wonders.

They gave TK and Farabee long-term deals off a few years of production, as well as Provorov unfortunately, CF rushed to extend Sanheim and overpaid given his history.

 

[Beef Invictus]

They've bridged three players, Tippett, Cates and Frost, all of whom lack any sort of track record.
It makes perfect sense to wait and see if they're for real or one year wonders.

They gave TK and Farabee long-term deals off a few years of production, as well as Provorov unfortunately, CF rushed to extend Sanheim and overpaid given his history.

No.