dirtydanglez
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was that in kadri's book or is it elsewhere?Just read about the stuff he did to Franzen. He wasn't very liked in the Detroit locker room either.
was that in kadri's book or is it elsewhere?Just read about the stuff he did to Franzen. He wasn't very liked in the Detroit locker room either.
Isn’t this all old news
Agree, just what does make them tick though?Yeah, it appears to be an attempt at 4D chess, but I struggled with that theory as well simply because it shows a complete disconnect with what makes current hockey player tick.
Agree, just what does make them tick though?
Yes sir!I bet you Mike is a big fan of the Saw movies.
I remember this with Adam Larsson. The coach just did not understand that benching him for every tiny mistake was destroying his confidence. He started to thrive under different coaches. Tough love is so often off the mark, the person often just needs a little thoughtfulness.If you're going to give them the tough love, you have to give it to them clear and direct.
Other guys just need to hear positive things to get them out of whatever is affecting them.
As a coach, you have to figure out which button to push depending on the player's personality, but you can't just spam all the buttons like Keenan used to do, or Babcock seemingly has done.
I forgot that one!Except these stories do not start with toronto, they were there back when modano was reaching 1500 games. And Babcock decided to bench him with only 4 games left that made modano miss the milestone by 1 game.
The question is why aren’t the trainers ripping on the lazy ones in the gym in the first place?
If he parents like he coaches... wonder how drill sergeants are like at family gatherings? Make a personality switch?Did he also ever ask his own kids to rank their extended family members then bring it up during a Christmas family gathering?
Do any Detroit fans know what his issue was with Modano? Was it talked about at all?Except these stories do not start with toronto, they were there back when modano was reaching 1500 games. And Babcock decided to bench him with only 4 games left that made modano miss the milestone by 1 game.
I don't know if anything else has come out, but as far as I've read/seen it was only based on performances. Modano was a shell of him former self and had a fairly bad year. I'd say there were sports reasons to scratch him, personally wouldn't have done it but idk if Babcock was aware he was so close to 1500 matches before after.Do any Detroit fans know what his issue was with Modano? Was it talked about at all?
All of this is old stuff. He did things how he saw them or learned them while himself was younger.
Worst thing he did was bully some people and mind games to get reactions to trigger players taking actions.
He was being tough on players. Most is storms in water glasses and some is pushing things too far or intentionally or unintentionally making mistakes.
Same as the thing in Columbus, just a dumb thing overall. He to my understanding was trying to learn more personal things about the players to connect with them and some took offense or didn't dare to say I'm not comfortable with it. Could have been solved different.
Not saying he was, but there is some exaggerations going on to his style. He wasn't just a tyrant 24/7 like certain people want to push as an agenda. Even Zetterberg and Lidstrom said he could be hard on people. Zetterberg said in some interview he also got into verbal fights with him at times.This is the excuse people like Babcock have made for generations: "Well it's just how it was when I was younger, now it's my turn"
Perpetuating a cycle of abuse just because you refuse to seek help for your own trauma does not make you infallible.
If he parents like he coaches... wonder how drill sergeants are like at family gatherings? Make a personality switch?
Babs:Babcock puts a hockey stick in the middle of the room and the man that comes out of it makes the team.
Jon Cooper is one of the best modern coaches (rare longevity with the room, tons of finals and conference finals appearances on top of great seasons over 10+ years), and he is the polar opposite of this.I’m pretty sure all the successful coaches have a bunch of little mind games they play with their group. I seem to remember that in Ken Dryden’s “The Game” he touched on some of the stuff Bowman would do.
This seems really low character though.
It was because modano and the training staff were talking about the 1500th game and it being something modano wanted. Babcock was said to say you were brought here for a stanley cup not 1500 games.I don't know if anything else has come out, but as far as I've read/seen it was only based on performances. Modano was a shell of him former self and had a fairly bad year. I'd say there were sports reasons to scratch him, personally wouldn't have done it but idk if Babcock was aware he was so close to 1500 matches before after.
You could say its pro sports, be good enough or sit and watch and I can't really say its the wrong thing to do, and then from a nostalgic point of view, Modano did enough in his career to be given the leverage of playing and getting to 1500 as a gesture as well so.