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The Moose are playing exactly how they were billed. When the defense isn't actively creating plays nothing happens. Berdin is all over the place but it's tough to say how much either goal was his fault.
With that said though, it feels like the forwards are forcing plays back to go through the defense. They look like they're not capable of doing anything without having the defense carrying them.
With that said though, it feels like the forwards are forcing plays back to go through the defense. They look like they're not capable of doing anything without having the defense carrying them.
Second goal he was hung out to dry, probably should’ve had the first though.
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Maybe going down 2-0 in an elimination game is what the Moose needed to wake up some of their offense 
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Go ahead goal by Gawanke courtesy of third PP goal of the 2nd:
The Malott goal was even strength, but the power play has looked good and Milwaukee’s PP has not. Big period coming up, obviously
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Moose up by two.
ICE up by two.
Gotta dump one of my tickets for Friday. Which match should I attend?
ICE up by two.
Gotta dump one of my tickets for Friday. Which match should I attend?
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Quickly looking at the TSN3 broadcast. Low quality video feed. The fact that it isn’t 60fps for a live TV broadcast is quite…astonishing.
(Update: Upon further review on my cable DVR (compared to the Shaw TV app), video quality is up to par. Any quality issues is something a videophile could discuss with me sometime...)
(Update: Upon further review on my cable DVR (compared to the Shaw TV app), video quality is up to par. Any quality issues is something a videophile could discuss with me sometime...)
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It's just the AHL.tv feed seemingly. You'd think they'd be able to clean it up a bit though. Looks good on my phone at least.
Chisholm and Gawanke had terrific games. More to come when I get home.
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Hard working trio of Polei-Maier-Jones increase the lead in the 3rd:
Well deserved goal for Luke Johnson who suffered two brutal leg injuries this season to add some insurance:
And what would a game be without Mikhail Berdin going for an empty netter:
Well deserved goal for Luke Johnson who suffered two brutal leg injuries this season to add some insurance:
And what would a game be without Mikhail Berdin going for an empty netter:
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Agreed. Chisholm in particular is unbelievable. Hard to imagine he won't force his way onto the Jets in some capacity one day. The Moose D is an obvious strength.
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I'm also a Kovacevic fan! I did notice him tonight.
My first Moose game since the Jets came back. I was expecting a few more fans tonight. I get the attraction of watching it on TV, but live playoff hockey definitely has a different electricity in the air.
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I don't think it being on TV had any bearing, most of the people I know didn't know it was on. The Moose just aren't a huge draw anymore. I remember going to games during that run to the Calder finals though, getting tickets for the Final itself was tough. The Jaffray goal late in game 2 was as loud as most Jets games. Game 6 was a bit of a dud but still cool to see a major trophy given out.
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Thought Chisholm was the best player on the ice. He is looking really good at this level. For the most part Heinola,Samber,Gawanke and Kovacevic are all very good at the AHL level.
I won't be surprised if we start seeing more of Chisholm next season with the Jets. Too bad he wasn't a right shot
I won't be surprised if we start seeing more of Chisholm next season with the Jets. Too bad he wasn't a right shot
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Some more thoughts ...
Goalie: Berdin was very average to be honest, but settled in nicely after a poor first period. If you're only giving up two goals a game then you're giving your team a good chance to win. And he's a ton of fun to watch. His puckhandling is a double-edged sword, though. He got overzealous and took a delay of game penalty by firing the puck over the glass at the beginning of the 3rd when it was still a one-goal game, but he also sprung a Moose player on a breakaway with a pass and is almost like a third d-man back there who can set up breakout passes. He needs to be more consistent and he's already 24 so I'm not sure if he makes the NHL or heads back to Russia.
Defence: As I said earlier Gawanke and Chisholm were the stars but I'll go through them all. Heinola had a brutal giveaway in the first that led to Milwaukee's 2nd goal. I think he was outplayed by Chisholm but that's just a one-game sample size. He seems to struggle with bigger, bruising forwards but displays excellent positioning and a nice stick in the defensive zone. Offensively you can see the creativity in his game. He's an elite PP QB at the AHL level and was able to set up a number of opportunities both on the PP and even strength. Samberg was fine. Nothing really happens for either side when he's on the ice, which is what you want from a defensive defenceman. Just wish he could produce a bit more in the AHL. But otherwise he was very good and defended the slot as fiercely as an Alamo defender. The Admirals really couldn't get many dangerous looks with him on the ice. Kovacevic played to his strengths that game. Just a very low-profile, positionally-sound defensive game. Not sure he's ever an everyday NHLer but as a right-handed 7-8 kinda guy you might be able to get some use out of him. I was sitting right by the Moose bench so I could hear Oligny (he's captain) hyping up his team consistently. Dude is a warrior on the ice and seems to be well-liked by his team. He was getting into it with the Admirals players and he kept rallying the troops even when the Moose fell behind 2-0. He can captain the Moose anytime for me. Even before the goals started coming for the Moose (which he was a big part of), I thought Gawanke looked dangerous out there. He's got really good offensive chops and actually takes care of his own end too. He's a great skater and him and Chisholm are dynamite as a pair. He also had two huge shot blocks in the final minute of the game that staggered him, but he appeared to be alright. Hard to think he doesn't get a shot with the Jets next year, especially being a rightie. Speaking of playing with the Jets, I agree with others who say Chisholm deserves a shot with them next year. He's all over the ice, terrific in both his own end and in the opposing team's zone and has been developing exceptionally well considering his draft position.
Forwards: First, I thought Barron had a really good game. Physical, with a hard shot and he was getting under the Admirals' skin. We could have a poor man's PLD in him. Gustafsson was terrific in his own zone and does all the little things right. Didn't see a ton of offensive skill in his game, but it's a small sample. I can see him taking the torch from Lowry and being a shutdown C for us. I know Eyssimont was their leading scorer this year but he didn't do much of anything offensively this game. He's a good pest though and was causing issues for Milwaukee by goading them into penalties. Malott was one of their more dangerous forwards but that speaks more to the lack of scoring on the team than it does to him - I thought he was just slightly above average. Poganski and Maier (their other two "dangerous" scorers) were virtually invisible. Also, I don't know who this Jones guy is, but man, he's a gamer. He was one of the only Moose (maybe Barron being the other) who was going to the net and making life miserable for Dooley. He's a smaller guy and was getting abused all game but kept bouncing back - taking hits to make plays, getting roughed up in front of the net, blocking shots. You could tell the Admirals were getting frustrated by him - a real thorn in their side - and it was fantastic to see him rewarded with a goal.
- The refereeing was horrible. I guess the officials are getting prepped for their NHL call-up these playoffs. Very one-sided officiating and the Moose got called for a penalty almost immediately after each goal they scored. The Moose, however, were dynamite on their PPs, going 2-for-4 whereas Milwaukee was 0-for-7 and many times struggled to even gain entry into the zone.
- The building was pretty lively once the Moose woke up. I haven't had that much fun at a hockey game for a few years. I think this shows True North that if the players on the ice are willing to put in an effort the fans will appreciate it. Everyone around me was all having a good time and it was a fun atmosphere. If the Jets can bring in a coach who demands accountability/can bring in players who give more effort than I think we'll see this liveliness return to Jets games.
- The Moose still need to run the table here to take the series, but the first W is a big step, especially with how they were able to battle back from going down 2-0. We'll see what happens, but being able to play both of the next two games at home should help. I think the players really fed off the crowd and in turn the crowd fed off the players ... just a positive feedback loop.
Goalie: Berdin was very average to be honest, but settled in nicely after a poor first period. If you're only giving up two goals a game then you're giving your team a good chance to win. And he's a ton of fun to watch. His puckhandling is a double-edged sword, though. He got overzealous and took a delay of game penalty by firing the puck over the glass at the beginning of the 3rd when it was still a one-goal game, but he also sprung a Moose player on a breakaway with a pass and is almost like a third d-man back there who can set up breakout passes. He needs to be more consistent and he's already 24 so I'm not sure if he makes the NHL or heads back to Russia.
Defence: As I said earlier Gawanke and Chisholm were the stars but I'll go through them all. Heinola had a brutal giveaway in the first that led to Milwaukee's 2nd goal. I think he was outplayed by Chisholm but that's just a one-game sample size. He seems to struggle with bigger, bruising forwards but displays excellent positioning and a nice stick in the defensive zone. Offensively you can see the creativity in his game. He's an elite PP QB at the AHL level and was able to set up a number of opportunities both on the PP and even strength. Samberg was fine. Nothing really happens for either side when he's on the ice, which is what you want from a defensive defenceman. Just wish he could produce a bit more in the AHL. But otherwise he was very good and defended the slot as fiercely as an Alamo defender. The Admirals really couldn't get many dangerous looks with him on the ice. Kovacevic played to his strengths that game. Just a very low-profile, positionally-sound defensive game. Not sure he's ever an everyday NHLer but as a right-handed 7-8 kinda guy you might be able to get some use out of him. I was sitting right by the Moose bench so I could hear Oligny (he's captain) hyping up his team consistently. Dude is a warrior on the ice and seems to be well-liked by his team. He was getting into it with the Admirals players and he kept rallying the troops even when the Moose fell behind 2-0. He can captain the Moose anytime for me. Even before the goals started coming for the Moose (which he was a big part of), I thought Gawanke looked dangerous out there. He's got really good offensive chops and actually takes care of his own end too. He's a great skater and him and Chisholm are dynamite as a pair. He also had two huge shot blocks in the final minute of the game that staggered him, but he appeared to be alright. Hard to think he doesn't get a shot with the Jets next year, especially being a rightie. Speaking of playing with the Jets, I agree with others who say Chisholm deserves a shot with them next year. He's all over the ice, terrific in both his own end and in the opposing team's zone and has been developing exceptionally well considering his draft position.
Forwards: First, I thought Barron had a really good game. Physical, with a hard shot and he was getting under the Admirals' skin. We could have a poor man's PLD in him. Gustafsson was terrific in his own zone and does all the little things right. Didn't see a ton of offensive skill in his game, but it's a small sample. I can see him taking the torch from Lowry and being a shutdown C for us. I know Eyssimont was their leading scorer this year but he didn't do much of anything offensively this game. He's a good pest though and was causing issues for Milwaukee by goading them into penalties. Malott was one of their more dangerous forwards but that speaks more to the lack of scoring on the team than it does to him - I thought he was just slightly above average. Poganski and Maier (their other two "dangerous" scorers) were virtually invisible. Also, I don't know who this Jones guy is, but man, he's a gamer. He was one of the only Moose (maybe Barron being the other) who was going to the net and making life miserable for Dooley. He's a smaller guy and was getting abused all game but kept bouncing back - taking hits to make plays, getting roughed up in front of the net, blocking shots. You could tell the Admirals were getting frustrated by him - a real thorn in their side - and it was fantastic to see him rewarded with a goal.
- The refereeing was horrible. I guess the officials are getting prepped for their NHL call-up these playoffs. Very one-sided officiating and the Moose got called for a penalty almost immediately after each goal they scored. The Moose, however, were dynamite on their PPs, going 2-for-4 whereas Milwaukee was 0-for-7 and many times struggled to even gain entry into the zone.
- The building was pretty lively once the Moose woke up. I haven't had that much fun at a hockey game for a few years. I think this shows True North that if the players on the ice are willing to put in an effort the fans will appreciate it. Everyone around me was all having a good time and it was a fun atmosphere. If the Jets can bring in a coach who demands accountability/can bring in players who give more effort than I think we'll see this liveliness return to Jets games.
- The Moose still need to run the table here to take the series, but the first W is a big step, especially with how they were able to battle back from going down 2-0. We'll see what happens, but being able to play both of the next two games at home should help. I think the players really fed off the crowd and in turn the crowd fed off the players ... just a positive feedback loop.
This is a great, detailed game report, and very much appreciated.
I've been watching Chisholm since his junior days, and he's consistently outperformed expectations -- I don't expect that to change anytime soon, and think he'll become a useful player for the Jets, at worst. He does everything well and his incredible mobility makes him very dangerous in transition.
Have been very impressed also with Gawanke's steady development -- the Moose have built a D-man factory down there, and the Jets have some decisions to make.
Fun game to watch, despite the sucky feed. Thanks @snowkiddin for the ringside view.
My pleasure. I’m working on Friday night so I’ll have to catch the replay of the game on AHL TV, but would definitely recommend anyone on the fence about going to pick up some tickets. It was a lot of fun. Was also great to see so many classic green Moose jerseys in the crowd. I know the current colour palette fits the Jets more, but I really wish they would bring back the green and brown ones. They look sharp and fit the Moose theme better.
Agreed on everything you said. Chisholm already looked good in his debut this year. I remember talking to Peterborough fans when he was in junior who told me he would be an NHLer and I tried to not get caught up in the hype but he is looking damn good.
Forgotten in this is Lundmark, who has been solid this year, but can’t crack the lineup when Heinola and Samberg are down there.
