WWE: Monday Night Raw part 116: TMZ >>>>>>>>>>> WWE Creative

[Paris in Flames]

I'm interested in seeing Wyatt and Reigns. That can definitely be a good match.

Outside of that and hoping they sneak Breeze in there..my excitement is at 0.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

About zilch for me as well.

I'm holding out hope that Wyatt gets the win and that Ziggler wins the US Title Open Challenge....but prob more likely that neither happens.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

 

[Deen]

They need to turn the New Day into the New Nation.

 

[The Shockmaster]

They need to turn the New Day into the New Nation.

Why? They already have a great identity that they've formed. Why rely on past ideas? That's what's hurting the show.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

https://instagram.com/p/9P4v02Otfs/

 

[Emperoreddy]

So next few months should be interesting.

Cena is now gone. Brock is gone for a good while.

Guessing Seth, Roman,
Maybe Dean, and Bray will be getting lots of time and have to try and right the ship

 

[Karma]

Time for ADR vs Sheamus for the next 3 months.

 

[BonMorrison]

For the first time in a bajillion years, I am curious to see the PPV fallout for tonight.

 

[S A W F T*]

For the first time in a bajillion years, I am curious to see the PPV fallout for tonight.

Same boat for me.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Just catching up from last night, I read that Rowan was there for the end segment....was that his return to action, or was he around earlier?

 

[S A W F T*]

Just catching up from last night, I read that Rowan was there for the end segment....was that his return to action, or was he around earlier?

He was randomly back with no explanation last Monday.

 

[Paris in Flames]

Yeah Rowan's return was weird. They barely mention it despite him having been gone for....5 months?

It was all made even more weird that Harper was gone with no explanation either.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I'm still not super interested in this show. I'll probably alternate between this and Chicago vs. Anaheim.

 

[S A W F T*]

I'm still not super interested in this show. I'll probably alternate between this and Chicago vs. Anaheim.

Only four weeks until Survivor Series. The fallout from HIAC should be good and the build has to start tonight.

But I'll probably be doing the same.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Meltzer says there was no big fallout from HIAC and the blood in the main event because Vince knows Lesnar can't be bullied and is financially secure enough that he can just take his ball and go home. Meltzer says "he's not going to be yelled at like he's Dolph Ziggler", and yes, that's a direct quote.

While there is usually a fine for people who blade, they don't believe Lesnar bladed and believes he knows how to make himself bleed the hard way.

There was also a lot of commotion in gorilla position when the blood was drawn, but clearly it didn't lead to anything backstage after the match.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Meltzer says there was no big fallout from HIAC and the blood in the main event because Vince knows Lesnar can't be bullied and is financially secure enough that he can just take his ball and go home. Meltzer says "he's not going to be yelled at like he's Dolph Ziggler", and yes, that's a direct quote.

While there is usually a fine for people who blade, they don't believe Lesnar bladed and believes he knows how to make himself bleed the hard way.

There was also a lot of commotion in gorilla position when the blood was drawn, but clearly it didn't lead to anything backstage after the match.

And that is just one reason why Lesnar is a savage that I respect. F-5'ing Michael Cole out of his shoe also helped.

 

[Natey]

I really enjoyed the Rollins Kane match last night. I was dreading it so much but I honestly loved it. Favourite match on the show, I believe.

I liked Bray/Reigns, but it was so ****ing predictable and annoying, as the end of the show made me hate this match. Sums up WWE writing in a nutshell.

Taker/Lesnar was good.

As much as I don't like Nikki Bella wrestling, she's worked her ass off to improve. She's passable now.

Del Rio.. cool. I hate the surprise returns that are announced before the music hits though. Kills the reaction.

 

[Sheppy]

I really enjoyed the Rollins Kane match last night. I was dreading it so much but I honestly loved it. Favourite match on the show, I believe.

I liked Bray/Reigns, but it was so ****ing predictable and annoying, as the end of the show made me hate this match. Sums up WWE writing in a nutshell.

Taker/Lesnar was good.

As much as I don't like Nikki Bella wrestling, she's worked her ass off to improve. She's passable now.

Del Rio.. cool. I hate the surprise returns that are announced before the music hits though. Kills the reaction.

I can't stress enough how much i hate this too.

 

[WinterEmpire]

Although Bray/Reigns had a predictable outcome it was still a good match. In the middle of the night it was disappointing because Bray never gets over, but in retrospect it was fine. You can't have the heel win the blowoff match against an upcoming talent Reigns(even though he is being clearly shoved down our throats, him losing would be a lot worse for his future than Bray).

In the end, Bray's character is that of a master manipulator who depends on the Family as much as they depend on him. On his own, he's an above average wrestler and that's why I think yesterday's ending was perfect. Bray coming off another tough singles loss, sees an opportunity to have the Family abduct the Undertaker(the man he has spent years trying to become) in his weakened state. It was the best thing I've seen story wise from the WWE in the past year, I hope to see it go somewhere meaningful tonight and over the next couple of months.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I really enjoyed the Rollins Kane match last night. I was dreading it so much but I honestly loved it. Favourite match on the show, I believe.

I liked Bray/Reigns, but it was so ****ing predictable and annoying, as the end of the show made me hate this match. Sums up WWE writing in a nutshell.

Taker/Lesnar was good.

As much as I don't like Nikki Bella wrestling, she's worked her ass off to improve. She's passable now.

Del Rio.. cool. I hate the surprise returns that are announced before the music hits though. Kills the reaction.

I'm going to say it. Nikki looked better then Charlotte. She worked hard and told a story in ring. Charlotte has really really regressed in my eyes and is one of the weaker women on the roster now.

They need to do more with Becky and Sasha. Also be nice if the team **** ends after Survivor series so we can get to the easy storyline of "I want to be the best lady wrestler"

In the other thread someone went on about Bray losing feuds.

I think saying Bray lost to Roman is massively simplifying this feud. It was 5 months long. It had lots of twists and turns. The big ones included on the Bray side was the return of the family and the intro of Big Ass McStrongman.

He is a heel though and heels usually lose the feud to the baby face. Especially one the company wants to push.

My only issue is because of what happened later in the night. Roman going over clean makes less sense for the long term Wyatt storyline.

At minimum the family should of came out after the result and beat of Roman and Dean coming for the save. Having them not come out for the save at the end because Roman was sore and Dean was out drinking is not the best storytelling.

Would of helped the ending big time and give the Wyatts some of their heat back. Bray doesn't need to be the singles monster right now as long as the family looks strong.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Charlotte doesn't sell ****. Nikki works on the back the whole match, even hitting an Alabama Slam on the apron and Charlotte still locks on the figure-eight with hardly a problem.

 

[The Lunatic Fridge]

Meltzer says there was no big fallout from HIAC and the blood in the main event because Vince knows Lesnar can't be bullied and is financially secure enough that he can just take his ball and go home. Meltzer says "he's not going to be yelled at like he's Dolph Ziggler", and yes, that's a direct quote.

While there is usually a fine for people who blade, they don't believe Lesnar bladed and believes he knows how to make himself bleed the hard way.

There was also a lot of commotion in gorilla position when the blood was drawn, but clearly it didn't lead to anything backstage after the match.

Dunn was yelling for the doctor to get in there and stop the bleeding and apparently lesnar shoving him across the ring was legit and the doctor dared not to step in again

 

[Paris in Flames]

What if it's not Taker vs Bray/Wyatt's at all?

I'd love if they pulled a complete swap and had them aligned.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Charlotte doesn't sell ****. Nikki works on the back the whole match, even hitting an Alabama Slam on the apron and Charlotte still locks on the figure-eight with hardly a problem.

No ring psychology. You have to finish the match with a pin because your back is apparently shot and can't do that stupid bridge for the stupid figure 8 that looks awful.

But she no sells it and ya. Then Paige is out there and things made even less sense.