WWE: Monday Night Raw 128 - Thank You, Bryan

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Pinkfloyd

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Bringing RAW back to two hours would be great for the fans, I mean the ratings show how poorly the 3rd hour does.

The problem is that means WWE has to admit they made a mistake.

They went to three hours at the request of the network and were paid pretty well for it. I don't think they'd call it a mistake even with the sagging ratings. They got good money to produce that extra hour.
 

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'Admitting they made a mistake" isn't a problem at all with the length of the show. WWE officials have flat out said that a three hour show is bad, multiple times in fact. The problem is the WWE make more money with three hours than two hours.
 

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I wouldn't go so far as to say that he has more money than he knows what to do with. He has said on more than one medium that they weren't set financially going forward if he were to leave.
I'm not saying he's lying, but given how popular he was, how popular his wife is, her show, etc., I have a hard time believing they'll ever have financial problems.
 

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I'm not saying he's lying, but given how popular he was, how popular his wife is, her show, etc., I have a hard time believing they'll ever have financial problems.

Wrestlers who have made more money than DB could ever hope to make have financial problems. In DB's case, it's weird because of the timing of his contract and his rise to prominence. His wife may be popular relatively but I doubt she makes a lot doing what she does. WWE will penny-pinch their talent on paying them out for things. They still haven't done anything really about how the WWE Network has taken from their PPV bonuses except for a higher downside when their contracts were up.
 

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I'm sure he and Brie are just fine right now but they're both very young and could presumably live another 50 years. Add in kids etc and you can very easily go from well off to struggling if one guy can't work and she likely wants out too.

Bryan is one of the best technical wrestlers in the world/ever and has an insane following. He'll find work very very easily. He could already be a trainer right now if he just sent Vince or HHH a text.
 

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Wrestlers who have made more money than DB could ever hope to make have financial problems. In DB's case, it's weird because of the timing of his contract and his rise to prominence. His wife may be popular relatively but I doubt she makes a lot doing what she does. WWE will penny-pinch their talent on paying them out for things. They still haven't done anything really about how the WWE Network has taken from their PPV bonuses except for a higher downside when their contracts were up.

That primarily is the case for those who lived an opposite lifestyle to Daniel Bryan. Ric Flair has made more money than most of the roster ever will, and the reason he still has debt problems is because he's THE KISS STEALIN, WHEELIN-DEALIN etc. party animal who, from what we knew, had to be the one to buy everybody at the bar an eighth consecutive round of drinks.

From what we can see of Daniel Bryan, he isn't the type who's into that sort of thing.
 

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The 30 for 30 documentary on how many athletes fall into bankruptcy and financial distress convinced me that no one is immune.

That said, Bryan has a solid head on his shoulders, seems to enjoy a modest lifestyle, and, most importantly, it's not like he can't work.

Based on Monday night, we know he still has enormous earning potential with the WWE alone, so it's not like that spigot will get shut off anytime soon. How many would eat up a storyline where DB emerges to reignite the RAW GM who somehow comes to power and acts as a check on the authority?

Will things be more difficult with his retirement? Certainly. But, he has plenty of opportunities be they within or without the industry that will allow him to generate income. Given Brie's similar earning power, they'll be fine.
 

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That primarily is the case for those who lived an opposite lifestyle to Daniel Bryan. Ric Flair has made more money than most of the roster ever will, and the reason he still has debt problems is because he's THE KISS STEALIN, WHEELIN-DEALIN etc. party animal who, from what we knew, had to be the one to buy everybody at the bar an eighth consecutive round of drinks.

From what we can see of Daniel Bryan, he isn't the type who's into that sort of thing.

All it takes is a divorce to screw your financial situation up and in the spot that DB is in, it only takes a couple bad investments to do the same as well. He may not be an extravagant spender or anything like that but there are plenty of easy ways for him to get hit hard financially.
 

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He knows he's going to lose and that 8-fight contract he signed will be a 2-fight contract before he's cut at best.
 

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Three hours isn't the problem, look at all the talent they have on hand. They have plenty of wrestlers to fill those 3 hours, the problem is the writing. Half the roster doesn't make an appearance most Raws. The writing is so boring for the ones that do and too many people are taking up way too much air time spread throughout the show.

Throw Neville some air time, he certainly deserves it. The guy put on the best matches on NXT last year. Why is he only on TV for 30 minutes on a month's worth of WWE? Surely there's more than 4 tag teams currently in the WWE roster. They could make the time work, they just keep throwing the same crap at us every week. They won't give other wrestlers a chance and then wonder why ratings are so slow when every week is so predictable with the same full of wrestlers coming out doing the same thing every week.
 

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Are we really acting like Punk is getting a surgery he doesn't need just to avoid a fight? This guy wrestled for over a decade, it's not hard to believe that a dormant back injury would re-appear, especially under intense mma training.

For all you people questioning his toughness: I'd like to see you guys train for an mma fight in your late 30's after wrestling for most of your adult lives. You can hate his attitude and I agree to an extent, but he's trying to do something that very few people get to do and his body is clearly in no shape to do what he is doing. I don't see how you guys can't respect that.

This guy could make money by doing very little but he's voluntarily choosing perhaps the most physically demanding job there is and he's doing it after years of abuse. That's worthy of respect.
 

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Are we really acting like Punk is getting a surgery he doesn't need just to avoid a fight? This guy wrestled for over a decade, it's not hard to believe that a dormant back injury would re-appear, especially under intense mma training.

For all you people questioning his toughness: I'd like to see you guys train for an mma fight in your late 30's after wrestling for most of your adult lives. You can hate his attitude and I agree to an extent, but he's trying to do something that very few people get to do and his body is clearly in no shape to do what he is doing. I don't see how you guys can't respect that.

This guy could make money by doing very little but he's voluntarily choosing perhaps the most physically demanding job there is and he's doing it after years of abuse. That's worthy of respect.

Yup. The last thing Punk is trying to do is get surgery in order to prolong that fight. Punk is not scared of this fight. Punk wants this fight. Punk believes in himself and wants to prove everyone wrong. That's what fuels him every day.

The guy is a dick, but people are reallllllllly reaching when they say he's doing this on purpose. As for how many fights he'll actually go through - i think CPrice has it pretty solid at 2. I think even Punk knows he's not fighting 8 times.
 

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Three hours isn't the problem, look at all the talent they have on hand. They have plenty of wrestlers to fill those 3 hours, the problem is the writing. Half the roster doesn't make an appearance most Raws. The writing is so boring for the ones that do and too many people are taking up way too much air time spread throughout the show.

Throw Neville some air time, he certainly deserves it. The guy put on the best matches on NXT last year. Why is he only on TV for 30 minutes on a month's worth of WWE? Surely there's more than 4 tag teams currently in the WWE roster. They could make the time work, they just keep throwing the same crap at us every week. They won't give other wrestlers a chance and then wonder why ratings are so slow when every week is so predictable with the same full of wrestlers coming out doing the same thing every week.

Both Vince and HHH have basically admitted (on SC's podcast) that 3 hours is an issue. It's just way too much. Over exposure also is not good. There needs to be something driving your appetite to keep coming back and tuning in.
 

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Yup. The last thing Punk is trying to do is get surgery in order to prolong that fight. Punk is not scared of this fight. Punk wants this fight. Punk believes in himself and wants to prove everyone wrong. That's what fuels him every day.

The guy is a dick, but people are reallllllllly reaching when they say he's doing this on purpose. As for how many fights he'll actually go through - i think CPrice has it pretty solid at 2. I think even Punk knows he's not fighting 8 times.

2 is the safe number. First fight is the big draw. I don't see him beating someone who's trained to do MMA from a younger age no matter the circumstances of how he got in the UFC. Second fight is a redemption one, which again, he's done it as a hobby for so long that you can't really expect much, so two straight losses and Punk would be of no value to the UFC.
 

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Yeah I don't get this Punk bashing. He was absolutely an idiot the other day for that interview but if he needs a surgery, he needs a surgery. Are we forgetting all the times Punk went on with programs despite his injuries or are people purposely ignoring it for the sake of making fun of the guy for doing something difficult and potentially impossible in his state?
 
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