WWE: Monday Night Raw 127 -- the road to NXT Tak...err, Wrestlemania

[Pinkfloyd]

Natalya would be a great fit too. I agree. Just give Brie a chance before you go nuts. IWC is known for hating on stuff before it even begins.... I don't fit into that category. Be open minded and allow things to develop.

A quick side note, the Bella's sell way more mercy than Natalya. That's gotta be a factor to look at when pushing someone

If Brie didn't have a very large body of work to go off of when it comes to figuring out how she will do, you may have a point. But since she does, your point is ridiculous.

And your side note again fails to mention that it's Nikki's side of it that sells the most...it's not Brie.

You're such a hypocrite. Be open minded and allow things to develop yet when the subject of Tyler Breeze comes up, he's a piece of garbage before he even had a chance to develop.

 

[BonMorrison]

You're such a hypocrite. Be open minded and allow things to develop yet when the subject of Tyler Breeze comes up, he's a piece of garbage before he even had a chance to develop.

rekt.

 

[vdB]

Don't look at it from a time allowed aspect? There's no good reason not to look at it from that perspective when you're discussing room to push someone. Pushing someone involves time on TV to have any effect. Hence, that's what counts especially for the women. There isn't plenty of room for Brie. Why do you think they stuck nine women together in a program to start that God awful Divas Revolution stuff? It was to put as many of them together in the one or two segments they were going to get that had any meaning. Under normal circumstances, when a group of talent gets one or two segments that matter, that isn't many spots to hand out.

Again, you gotta be open minded and look to the future.

How do CREATE more time for the women? By pushing people who deserve it.

The women already get 2 matches on raw now compared to 1 a year ago. Look for that to increase to 3 or 4 by the end of 2016.

 

[vdB]

If Brie didn't have a very large body of work to go off of when it comes to figuring out how she will do, you may have a point. But since she does, your point is ridiculous.

And your side note again fails to mention that it's Nikki's side of it that sells the most...it's not Brie.

You're such a hypocrite. Be open minded and allow things to develop yet when the subject of Tyler Breeze comes up, he's a piece of garbage before he even had a chance to develop.

Again, you can't compare the men's division to the women's. PLENTY of room for mediocre talent to develop in the women's division. Not so much in the men's card. It's sink or swim. You can just tell Breeze can't hang with the big boys.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Again, you gotta be open minded and look to the future.

How do CREATE more time for the women? By pushing people who deserve it.

The women already get 2 matches on raw now compared to 1 a year ago. Look for that to increase to 3 or 4 by the end of 2016.

Those two matches that last a whopping 8 minutes combined is really looking to the future and creating more time for the women. And that was a good show for them. lol

They're not going to get three or four by the end of 2016 and if the combined time of those matches end up only being 10 minutes, it means very little. But you're fooling yourself if you actually believe that will happen.

 

[BonMorrison]

You can just tell Breeze can't hang with the big boys.

Ah yes - based on that large body of work he was given upon his debut on the main roster.

 

[Loosie]

Again, you can't compare the men's division to the women's. PLENTY of room for mediocre talent to develop in the women's division. Not so much in the men's card. It's sink or swim. You can just tell Breeze can't hang with the big boys.

It's actually the opposite. The women get only a couple of segments on RAW (if they are lucky) so there isn't a lot of space for mediocre talent. Where as the men have the rest of show and have tons of time to develop.

 

[vdB]

Those two matches that last a whopping 8 minutes combined is really looking to the future and creating more time for the women. And that was a good show for them. lol

They're not going to get three or four by the end of 2016 and if the combined time of those matches end up only being 10 minutes, it means very little. But you're fooling yourself if you actually believe that will happen.

You seriously don't think women's wrestling will increase soon? Wow. lol

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Again, you can't compare the men's division to the women's. PLENTY of room for mediocre talent to develop in the women's division. Not so much in the men's card. It's sink or swim. You can just tell Breeze can't hang with the big boys.

Saying you can just tell anyone can't hang when you got a handful of matches and little to no mic time is not being open-minded at all. It's actually the opposite. And you can say there's plenty of room for mediocre talent to develop in one division and not the other but it doesn't make you right. There are two matches at most for a woman to develop and those matches last five minutes at best most of the time. Don't tell me there's plenty of room. Then you look at the rest of the show which is obviously entirely devoted to the males. That means when you have about 2 or 2.5 hours of TV time and only 10 minutes of that is devoted to the females, you have a crapload of time to put any of the guys on that you want. That's plenty of room when that's a double digit amount of segments. More poor arguments from you which is funny because you believe you're making good points...you're not. lol

 

[BonMorrison]

I'm sure the women who work so hard to get there love how much time and room they have to develop on TV.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

You seriously don't think women's wrestling will increase soon? Wow. lol

The way they are treated on the main roster? Absolutely not. Going from one to two was done due to pressure from outside sources. That pressure is dying and Vince doesn't really care about the women. The only way that the women go from the two segments they get to more is if Vince dies. It's not happening.

 

[BonMorrison]

Don't bring up, Vince. Alfie's also the guy that thinks that the "IWC" (a silly term when we're all IWC whether you admit it or not) just look for reasons to hate Vince.

 

[Sarcastic]

This argument is actually more lopsided than the Oregon ranchers stuff.

 

[vdB]

The way they are treated on the main roster? Absolutely not. Going from one to two was done due to pressure from outside sources. That pressure is dying and Vince doesn't really care about the women. The only way that the women go from the two segments they get to more is if Vince dies. It's not happening.

It is. Just wait till Bayley pops up.

 

[Sarcastic]

That's what we said about Paige.

That's also what we said about Sasha.

Bayley is going to be DOA.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

It is. Just wait till Bayley pops up.

Bayley will just replace someone in the one or two segments they get...at best.

 

[Emperoreddy]

That's what we said about Paige.

That's also what we said about Sasha.

Bayley is going to be DOA.

At least Sasha isn't on that stupid show. Watching some of Total Divas has made me really grow to dislike Paige.

 

[vdB]

So im seriously the only guy here who thinks women's matches will increase?

This board constantly disappoints me.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Bayley will just replace someone in the one or two segments they get...at best.

Unless she turns heel, Becky odds are gets buried. They isn't room for two pure babyface women with what they currently get.

 

[Sarcastic]

So im seriously the only guy here who thinks women's matches will increase?

This board constantly dissapoints me.

It's okay, we're all already disappointed in you and your lackluster arguments that aim to make you look like the good guy.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

So im seriously the only guy here who thinks women's matches will increase?

This board constantly dissapoints me.

They can't even find the time to give the women a legitimate match on the only show they give a crap about on a weekly basis. Why would one think it will increase?

 

[Scandale du Jour]

You can't compare the men's division to the women's division. It's completely different.

Plenty of room to push a woman. Why not Brie?

Pushing guys is much more difficult due to the congestion of talent.

Because her only equal talent-wise is Eva Marie.

There are PLENTY of talented women they should push BEFORE Brie.

 

[BonMorrison]

WWE cannot ever be given the benefit of the doubt ESPECIALLY when it comes to the women. This is a company that at a time between 2002 and 2009 had absolutely insane depth in the Women's division and instead put emphasis on bra and panties matches, **** shaming segments, and Wrestlemania pillow fights.

This board constantly disappoints me.

Go to WF then.

 

[vdB]

Because her only equal talent-wise is Eva Marie.

There are PLENTY of talented women they should push BEFORE Brie.

How do you know that? You don't think with the way she sees other women stepping up in wrestling skills, that she might improve herself?

Give it a god damn chance. So much negativity

 

[Emperoreddy]

Yes - if we're going from the Total Divas perspective, Natalya deserves Brie's mini-push about 1000x more.

Also you can't ask to not be flamed when at the same time you're calling people "NXT smarks" as a negative for people who disagree with you.

Natty scared R-Truth with her cats, and made TJ feel bad. She deserves the full burial treatment.