So what about when a good story line comes along?? Can't give Vince any credit right?
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So what about when a good story line comes along?? Can't give Vince any credit right?
Emperoreddy
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BonMorrisonTV. Was a crap segment. Decided it was better as a dark/unaired segment.
BonMorrison
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^It's MorrisonTV* get it right. 
Just because WWE (or in your view, only Vince) can craft a good storyline every now and then does not make up for the past 15 years of mostly crap WWE has thrown in our direction since the end of the Attitude Era.
Just because WWE (or in your view, only Vince) can craft a good storyline every now and then does not make up for the past 15 years of mostly crap WWE has thrown in our direction since the end of the Attitude Era.
It's not a valid argument. There is no argument made blah blah blah is just a hater. People blame Vince because he's the one in charge. And generally, the one in charge takes the heat when things go wrong. That's the way the world works.
I've watched wrestling probably longer than you but I know that in order for a star to be made, the promotion has to get behind the talent and utilize it properly. Something that the WWE hasn't done in over a decade.
And the mere fact that you believe that any statement you make requires no explanation just based on your watching of wrestling just shows arrogance...not intelligence. If you know something, you should be able to articulate it. Since you won't and do so in such a way, I'm betting it's because you can't. lol
BonMorrison
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The fact that whenever we disagree, we're a "hater" or a "fanboy" or a "smark" shows the arrogance being shown here which is quite grating.
When I see a constant trend of people bashing/blaming Vince, while having no idea what's going on backstage, it IS a valid argument.
And yes - no explanation needed for Bayley getting over. I'm sure many on this board will agree (they'll eventually pop up). You can just tell. As good ole JR says, she has the "it" factor.
No it's not because it makes no statement as to why they're wrong. You also conveniently ignored an actual argument as to why people blame Vince on these matters. Excuses don't change the fact that when the product is substandard, the person in charge takes the responsibility and the heat.
And I guess we'll wait...a while...before someone actually comes around to agree with you without the caveat of what I had been saying is going to be the deterrent for Bayley getting over in the first place. Good luck with that.
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^It's MorrisonTV* get it right.
Just because WWE (or in your view, only Vince) can craft a good storyline every now and then does not make up for the past 15 years of mostly crap WWE has thrown in our direction since the end of the Attitude Era.
The Attitude Era has aged horribly. Any time I see an old episode of Raw on the WWE Network from that period, it's awful.
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ColePens
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MCG was nothing without the talent. Just sayin'. Purple Plex - ColePens and CS dominated the world.
NewAgeOutlaw
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The thing is that we all do know a bit about how WWE works backstage. It's been confirmed by countless folks in the business that everything goes through Vince and that he signs off on everything they do. WWE's product has been going downhill since mid-2001, both in terms of quality and fan interest. The only person possibly to blame other than Vince over that time period is Steph as things started going downhill when she took over as head of creative. Even considering that, Vince is still to blame because he put Steph in charge of creative.
Regarding HFWF: is establishing a sort of creative committee out of the question? It seems that the demand is certainly there. If any single person doesn't have the free time to make it happen, why not just attack it as a group? Just a thought.
Regarding HFWF: is establishing a sort of creative committee out of the question? It seems that the demand is certainly there. If any single person doesn't have the free time to make it happen, why not just attack it as a group? Just a thought.
Sacha Baron Corbin
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Unrelated, but lol at the way this CM Punk interview ended
http://ca.complex.com/sports/2016/02/cm-punk-second-act
That was a... something else.
http://ca.complex.com/sports/2016/02/cm-punk-second-act
That was a... something else.
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AfroThunder396
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Dr Pepper
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I'm just puzzled as to why his debut has taken so long.
Feels like it's already been two years since he left WWE, and we've all known about this UFC debut for a while, but it's just dragging on for what seems like forever.
Feels like it's already been two years since he left WWE, and we've all known about this UFC debut for a while, but it's just dragging on for what seems like forever.
He was supposed to fight late 2015 but suffered a shoulder injury in training.
Well it's not like they can ask him anything else. He hasn't fought yet. All his questions will be about the transition.
Well it's not like they can ask him anything else. He hasn't fought yet. All his questions will be about the transition.
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