OK, until we can get a trade with a decent return, keep him up to his two years remaining, then replace with Heineman or Roy.
Monahan: Trade or Extend (assuming a decent season)
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Gorton's stated goal is long-term competitiveness, not just a short window.
The method to get long-term competitiveness is to avoid cap anchors and provide for succession with a flow of talent.
So, planning ahead, here are the dates the key contracts could renew, and about a year before each occurs, a decision needs to be made.
Guhle ELC 2025 - extend for 8 years
Slafkovsky ELC 2025 - try to bridge for 3 years
Matheson UFA 2026 age 32 - make decision if part of future and affordable
Dach RFA 2026 - extend for 8 years
Newhook RFA 2027 - try to extend 5 years
Slafkovsky RFA 2028 - try to extend 7 years
Reinbacher ELC 2028 - extend for 8 years
1st round pick of 2024; ELC could end 2029, extend 8 years?
Suzuki UFA 2030 age 31 - make decision
Caufield UFA 2031 age 30 - make decision
Newhook UFA 2032 age 30 - make decision
Guhle UFA 2033 age 31 - make decision
Dach UFA 2034 age 33 - make decision
Slafkovsky UFA 2035 age 31 - make decision
Reinbacher UFA 2036 age 31 - make decision
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26Mats
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Whether it was hip or groin, the hope is that ultimately that injury was caused by playing on a broken foot, which imo nobody should be doing, let alone someone with past hip and groin injuries.
So the hope is that if he doesn't try to play through other injuries, his hip and groin will be ok. But I'm not a doctor nor do I have access to his medical information. But hopefully our team medical staff can g ju ve good advice about whether and how much risk there is of re-injury.
I would think if our medic as l staff sees significant risk of injury, then that would mean other teams' medical staffs would as also, hence his TDL day value would be lower than if there was no risk.
voted to keep him, since 4x4,5 is really peanuts for that kind of player, but in truth, it's too early to tell. it all depends how much progress our young players show this season. if the habs are in playoff picture by the deadline with guhle and barron as legitimate top pairing and with nick&cole at ppg, having 29yo monahan as veteran presence is a no brainer. it's not the likeliest scenario, but it could happen. if those four look more like a second tier guys and we are out of playoffs, trade him to the highest bidder and continue to rebuild.
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Even if we're out of the playoffs, he's our best bet role model for the youth at forward, and maybe on the team.
Matheson and Savard are the leaders on defense, and I do think we can trade Savard any minute now to give Barron, Kovacevic, Xhekaj, and Harris full time spots in the top 6.
At forward, Monahan, Anderson, Gallagher, Dvo, and Pearson are the leaders. Monahan is the best on the ice and probably off the ice too, tied with Gally. And I wouldn't mind trading Anderson, Dvo, and Pearson.
Kimota
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Monahan should never wear another uniform than the CH at this point. He's essentialy a younger version of Erik Staal when he was with us. Remember what he brought when he was with us? Only this guy still has oil in the tank. These guys do not grow on threes. A player's player with great hockey sense and leadership and they make everybody better around them. It's great for the kids.
Anyway, this discussion is moot, we'll make the playoffs. No tanking here.
Anyway, this discussion is moot, we'll make the playoffs. No tanking here.
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if we are way out like the last two years, i highly doubt he stays, but is a lot less clear in those inbetween scenarios where some progress is made, but clearly still lot to do. i guess then it all depends on his asking price and what offers are on the table. if someone is willing to give up a good young player it still might be worth it to trade monahan.
I am okay sprinkling in a couple of guys in their thirties in this lineup. It provides veteran leadership.
Monahan is the man to be just that for us.
Monahan is the man to be just that for us.
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Can he be like Markov, where a ton of injuries early in his career, leads to a his last few seasons healthy?? Here's hoping..............trade Dvo and give Monahan 4.5M x 4 years.
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I would be extremely surprised if a team want to take Dvorak's contract before the deadline of the last year of his contract. If i was a GM there's absolutely 0 way i'd be interested in an average vanilla 3rd line center paid 4.45 millions. If you want to win a cup you simply can't afford to give this type of money to a guy like him playing without emotion. There's better options out there for less money.
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Like I said I like MoneyHands but if, and I mean IF, he makes it to the trade deadline without an injury it has to be recognized as a sign from the hockey gods or whatever deity you PAY into, he must be moved.
Another if, if we are offered a 1st + or 2nd + top prospect like the Av’s deal for Barron HuGo will do it, emotions be dammed!!
Another if, if we are offered a 1st + or 2nd + top prospect like the Av’s deal for Barron HuGo will do it, emotions be dammed!!
LesCanadiens
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It all depends on the offer...he's such a good player. If we had a crystal ball and saw an injury-free future, I'd say keep him. What an absolutely brilliant trade by Hughes...
Mrb1p
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Id say trade Monahan still. But Im less inclined to move him than Matheson.
In part because Monahan is a good player. In contrast with Matheson whos not ideal. In part because the Habs are devoid of talent at forward.
Im sure it would be a mistake and Monahan will get injured, which is why Id tentatively vote yes.
If he gets injured before TDL, sign him and repeat.
In part because Monahan is a good player. In contrast with Matheson whos not ideal. In part because the Habs are devoid of talent at forward.
Im sure it would be a mistake and Monahan will get injured, which is why Id tentatively vote yes.
If he gets injured before TDL, sign him and repeat.
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Unless the Hab are in a safe playoff spot there is absolutely no need to risk keeping Monahan. From now until then the Habs will surely fall in the rankings as the goaltending regresses to the mean. And as much as I hate tanking, it's not possible to accept Kent Hughes blowing a second straight trade deadline. Last year he held onto players for too long and found them injured and/or worthless when the deadline came up. This year he shouldn't make the same mistake.
On on the player's side of things, he would certainly appreciate a trade to a contender. If he's healthy and having a good season why wouldn't he want to try to compete for the Cup? Heaven knows he has suffered enough injuries to know there isn't a guaranteed promise of next year.
I'd argue all of Anderson, Savard, and Matheson deserve a chance elsewhere if they're playing well and want to try to win something.
No team that is contending for a Cup is going to give up a core player for a short terjm with one of our vets.
We can't afford to trade Matheson for less than a core player.
I'm on board with Anderson if it's good futures, Savard if anything reasonable, even Monahan if he won't come back on a deal that works for us.
However, Matheson is not on my TDL list. If he moves, it is in a hockey trade with a core player coming back.
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Yeah you’ve made it clear you think the world of Matheson, that’s fine. I think if you’re dealing with an excess of D-men trading the one who’s out of your age profile isn’t so bad.
It’s all academic anyway, Hughes will never break with his foxhole of former clients and his kids’ hockey friends. There is no other reason that Josh Anderson remains a Hab other than that imo. Same applies to Matheson. He’ll only move Matheson if he is explicitly asked for a move from Matheson himself.
All that said, unless the Habs remains tops into the end of Dec, Monahan since he is a known fragile figure should be traded as soon as the value is there and offers hit a threshold.
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We need somebody that can log the minutes Matheson can. He’s one of those players that has more value to the team then he would in a trade. If the right offer came, of course we’d consider it. But I doubt somebody is giving up an arm and a leg for someone like Matheson.
It isn't. Anyone is tradeable, even good players. But I don't believe that Matheson is a good trade deadline kind of move, where a contender gives up a pick and a B prospect.
Of course, Matheson can be dealt from strength for another core need .... hopefully after we are sure Guhle or Reinbacher can be a 25 minute guy. I think that does not come about this trade deadline though, nor next.
Even if we are playoff calibre at the start of 2024, I would still trade Monahan if he won't commit to extending on decent terms. And I say this as a huge Monahan fan.
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I'm not sure what Monahan is doing, but that is not a smile. I mean, if you just glance at it, I guess it looks like a smile, but the more you look at it, the more it breaks down. It's not a frown either.
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Monahan is a beast. The center we have needed for decades If it was not for the health uncertainty he could be a pillar for years. Love his game.
