Monahan: Trade or Extend (assuming a decent season)

[Catanddogguitarrr]

They will need the space to bring up guys. I like Money but we are not ready to sign a guy like him long term. Plus he will want to win.

The best would be bring Mcdavid here now.
Primeau, Ghule, Reinbaker + 3 1rst round draft. For McSaviorman.
So no Monahan.
Lol, possible with a playstation.

 

[Tuggy]

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

trading Monahan is such an easy decison and a no brainer.

So many competefor9thophiles in this thread

 

[Scriptor]

It depends who we will have on the books that will be coming off the books after the 2025-26 season.

The buyout would save 4.75M in cap space for the 2025-26 season and 2.25M in cap space for the 2026-27 season. It would then add 1.75M for the 2027-28 and 2028-29 seasons.

So you can use that 4.75M in summer 2025 if you have 2.5M coming off the books at the end of the 2025-2026 season, all else equal.

It's still a poisoned pill buyout that requires a lot of consideration going forward and involves a third player coming off the books if you want use the Cap savings long term on another player.

That get an idea of the future Habs core and line up almost complete, missing one forward at least and a G.

And in the upcoming years still have heavy anchor contracts to end or possible buy outs.
Patience, patience.
In the mean time, I can't stand Gally taking st*pid end of game penalty when the team is fighting well.

That get an idea of the future Habs core and line up almost complete, missing one forward at least and a G.

And in the upcoming years still have heavy anchor contracts to end or possible buy outs.
Patience, patience.
In the mean time, I can't stand Gally taking st*pid end of game penalty when the team is fighting well.

IF ALL GOES WELL, you're absolutely right, Montreal really lacks an elite forward and genuine starting G to be competitive in 3 to 5 years, once the prospects have developed, or on the cusp of developing.

 

[26Mats]

It's still a poisoned pill buyout that requires a lot of consideration going forward and involves a third player coming off the books if you want use the Cap savings long term on another player.

I mean it all depends on whether what to use the extra cap space or not. Since the buyout period is before the UFA market, they will have to make their decision based on how much it will cost to resign our own players as well as sign potential UFAs.

For example, if they need the extra 4.75M in cap space from buying out Gally in 2025 to resign our own players and sign a UFA, they can do it, and then it the summer of 2026 let Matheson's 4.85M cap hit come off the books. It just depends how they want to do it.

But for sure, that 4M+ cap hit for 2026-2027 makes it more difficult to benefit from cap space wise.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

I wouldn’t want to trade for him anything less than a top 10 pick (said trade partner would have to have an extra first rounder they got from another team obviously if it’s a deadline deal to a contender)

and a prospect who’s upside is comparable to Monahan’s with a certain degree of likelihood in attaining said upside (it would be ona bit of a sliding scale relative to the upside).

Anything less you roll the dice and keep him.

 

[Habssince89]

Suzuki/Dach/Monahan/Dvorak is a very deep batch of centres, and when the time comes for the Habs to return to the post-season, that's a depth chart that doesn't overly rely on Monahan in-game, creating dangerous matchups in our favour. Hard to imagine another C giving us that kind of edge. He's someone I'd be fine re-signing if we can't get good value.

 

[Sorinth]

I wouldn’t want to trade for him anything less than a top 10 pick (said trade partner would have to have an extra first rounder they got from another team obviously if it’s a deadline deal to a contender)

and a prospect who’s upside is comparable to Monahan’s with a certain degree of likelihood in attaining said upside (it would be ona bit of a sliding scale relative to the upside).

Anything less you roll the dice and keep him.

More realistically it would probably be a recent top pick who has flashed potential at the NHL level but hasn't shown it consistently enough, kind of like Dach and Newhook. Sadly we seem to always be a year off since Byfield and Lafreniere would've been perfect targets but have seemed to have turned a corner this year. I suppose Alexander Hotlz still fits the bill and potentially even Shane Wright which would be interesting at the meta level.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

More realistically it would probably be a recent top pick who has flashed potential at the NHL level but hasn't shown it consistently enough, kind of like Dach and Newhook. Sadly we seem to always be a year off since Byfield and Lafreniere would've been perfect targets but have seemed to have turned a corner this year. I suppose Alexander Hotlz still fits the bill and potentially even Shane Wright which would be interesting at the meta level.

I have some wiggle room but not much. I’m super high on Monahan and don’t really want to trade him so I’d want a fairly improbable overpayment

 

[26Mats]

I have some wiggle room but not much. I’m super high on Monahan and don’t really want to trade him so I’d want a fairly improbable overpayment

Unfortunately I think Monahan is injured again. He looks like he's skating in quick sand, can't move very well. It would seem he's playing through another hip or groin injury.

It could be something else. But given his history, that's my fear and what is most likely. It will be interesting to get confirmation at some point.

 

[HuGort]

Unfortunately I think Monahan is injured again. He looks like he's skating in quick sand, can't move very well. It would seem he's playing through another hip or groin injury.

It could be something else. But given his history, that's my fear and what is most likely. It will be interesting to get confirmation at some point.

If he is definitely not a re-sign candidate

 

[26Mats]

If he is definitely not a re-sign candidate

And definitely won't get us much if anything in a trade by the TDL.

 

[Tyson]

Well coach your third line is struggling....maybe adjustments should be made?

 

[26Mats]

Monahan had a therapy day today. Hope for the best...

Canadiens : Sean Monahan absent de l'entraînement pour des traitements | RDS

Monahan a bénéficié d'une journée de traitements jeudi.

www.rds.ca

 

[HuGort]

Dallas GM Jim Nill was on with Jeff Marek talking about hip surgery. A number of his players had hip surgery. Jamie Benn, Seguin, etc... He said it's becoming more common than years ago. Blames it in players playing more hockey younger. Excess stress on the hips.

 

[Redux91]

Must. Capitalize. On this asset.

 

[GrandBison]

It was early to assume a decent season I guess

 

[Deebs]

Must. Capitalize. On this asset.

Load management and then take a good offer before he gets hurt again near the deadline.

 

[Runner77]

Load management and then take a good offer before he gets hurt again near the deadline.

Monahan has not proven that he can sustain his efforts over a full season. Habs should not be taking that bet especially if another team is prepared to buy in now and would pay up.

I’d sell in the first half of the season simply based on the risk he represents. Hold on too long and he may end up on the LTIR again.

 

[HuGort]

Probably have to trade him for a conditional pick. Minimum 2nd, goes to a first if acquiring team gets to second round playoffs.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Monahan has not proven that he can sustain his efforts over a full season. Habs should not be taking that bet especially if another team is prepared to buy in now and would pay up.

I’d sell in the first half of the season simply based on the risk he represents. Hold on too long and he may end up on the LTIR again.

If the price is right move him now. If it is at the deadline hopefully more than one team is interested and they can move him without conditions.

 

[LaP]

I've seen enough to say definitely trade if he's healthy at the deadline. Good player. Will help the depth of a winning team at a reasonable cost. But he'll be 30 next season and i would not extend him. He can't be a top 6 guy for a full season moving forward and with Anderson and Gallagher we have already enough bottom 6 vets.

 

[ReHabs]

If the price is right move him now. If it is at the deadline hopefully more than one team is interested and they can move him without conditions.

You’re right.

The longer he plays the more he shows he is healthy and durable. His value will go up as we approach the trade deadline and there is a possibility to move him without conditions.

On the other hand, if you have an unconditional offer of a 2nd round pick for him now… would you move him? I think I’d move him. Helps our tank and cashes in on a fragile player who wouldn’t participate in our future in any case.

 

[CHarlie]

I just pray he can stay healthy....touches wood.
He can fetch a huge return at the deadline I believe.

 

[Deebs]

Monahan has not proven that he can sustain his efforts over a full season. Habs should not be taking that bet especially if another team is prepared to buy in now and would pay up.

I’d sell in the first half of the season simply based on the risk he represents. Hold on too long and he may end up on the LTIR again.

That's what I was saying. Get rid of him as soon as someone is interested and provides a decent offer. We'd be fools to wait for a robbery