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yianik said:
If Sakic doesn't want him then Sakic mustn't think the guy will help his team. If he gets him I don't see why the fan base would question the judgment of trading for him.
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He and Johansen (who Bednar is now playing only around 10 minutes) are kind of the same guy. The Johansen failure is a big reason they inquired about Lindholm. Lindholm is actually a good fit. Monahan, not so much.

After Eller, Tatar, and Johansen, no. You can pretty much assume that many/most Avs fans wouldnt be on board with this.

An injury is likely the only way he ends up on PP1. Beyond PP1 points, he doesnt contribute much. Hes not a good skater. He doesnt fore/backcheck. He doesnt bring energy or jam. He's an extremely needy player who is presently heavily dependent on PP1 time to be productive.

The source for this (ie Dreger) is also questionable. Dreger never has anything on the Avs. Last year LeBrun had linked the Avs to Monohan but not so far this year. And that was also before the Eller and Johansen failures.
 
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wetcoast said:
I honestly don't know if Lindholm is going to get traded and regardless it doesn't really change the value for Monahan which simply isn't that high and since he won't make much of a difference why would a team give up any more or even a second rounder for him is beyond me.
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Lindholm is the most desirable C out there, so whoever gets him is one less team that might consider adding Monahan to add depth at that position.

As to him not even being worth a 2nd rounder - we can't know what the offers are going to be, but I find it hard to think he doesn't have value similar to Eller (to Colorado) or Kulak (to Edmonton) as rentals, as he can fill a top-6 role (likely on the wing, though he could sub in at C if injuries hit), which would add some offensive punch and faceoff ability to teams with high-end players but maybe not great skilled depth after that.

Keep in mind, his cap hit is similar to what Kulak's was and lower than Eller's was, meaning Monahan is accessible to just about any team, cap-wise. Again, that means the team willing to spend a 2nd on him will be able to do so (whereas a guy like Stamkos, if ever he goes on the market, won't be an option for many teams, who will have to look at other options).
 
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John Mandalorian said:
He and Johansen (who Bednar is now playing only around 10 minutes) are kind of the same guy. The Johansen failure is a big reason they inquired about Lindholm. Lindholm is actually a good fit. Monahan, not so much.

After Eller, Tatar, and Johansen, no. You can pretty much assume that many/most Avs fans wouldnt be on board with this.

An injury is likely the only way he ends up on PP1. Beyond PP1 points, he doesnt contribute much. Hes not a good skater. He doesnt fore/backcheck. He doesnt bring energy or jam. He's an extremely needy player who is presently heavily dependent on PP1 time to be productive.

The source for this (ie Dreger) is also questionable. Dreger never has anything on the Avs. Last year LeBrun had linked the Avs to Monohan but not so far this year. And that was also before the Eller and Johansen failures.
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Whoops, so Joe has had a bit of a bad run. Didn't notice. I was locked in on Lehks and Drouin.

For us Monohan is good. Of course he brings leadership which you guys don't need.

Dreger knows nothing original.
 
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yianik said:
Colorado recently won a Cup and has a GM that knows what's needed to win a Cup and also the cost of doing business. I think AVs are the likeliest to trade for Monahan. I don't know what the price will be, but I think Sakic will be right there in the bidding.And AVs fans won't be crying about the price if Sakic gets him.
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He would stick out like a sore thumb with how they play the game. Hard disagree.
 
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yianik said:
Whoops, so Joe has had a bit of a bad run. Didn't notice. I was locked in on Lehks and Drouin.

For us Monohan is good. Of course he brings leadership which you guys don't need.

Dreger knows nothing original.
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A bad run indeed and thats how the Avs are here.

For what its worth, a decent amount of discussion on the Avs board has recently been focused on giving Drouin a try at 2C.

Edit - Want to note, some acquisitions have been ok. But the 2C situatuon has been a miss.
 
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John Mandalorian said:
A bad run indeed and thats how the Avs here.

For what its worth, a decent amount of discussion on the Avs board has recently been focused on giving Drouin a try at 2C.
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It would make me so happy if after MTL broke him that he became a top 6 C in Colorado.

But, I'm not sure if defensively he is gonna cut it in the spring at the position.
 
wintersej said:
It would make me so happy if after MTL broke him that he became a top 6 C in Colorado.

But, I'm not sure if defensively he is gonna cut it in the spring at the position.
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Perhaps you’re right. But this recent stretch doesn’t seem like a fluke.
 
wintersej said:
It would make me so happy if after MTL broke him that he became a top 6 C in Colorado.

But, I'm not sure if defensively he is gonna cut it in the spring at the position.
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I also hope Drouin finds a home in Colorado. I just don't see his 50 point offense as useful given the defensive issues and his likely benching in the playoffs. If i am the Avs, i don't get blinded by the offense when determining an extension to his contract. Anything over 2M is a bad contract for Drouin due to the risk.
 
Drouin's development in Colorado hasn't just been in his offensive play.
I'm sure all these folks who have been "following" him are aware of that though
 
Nico Cauzuki said:
Poster is right Monahan isnt bad defensively like some suggest but hes not good neither he was never a good 2 way center nobody is acquiring Moneyhands for hes defensive play it will be for secondary scoring/faceoffs/leadership
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Translation of part of an RDS text

Deux destinations potentielles pour Sean Monahan (Chronique de Billy Bertrand) | RDS

Monahan is one of the best centers in the NHL this season in the faceoff circle, with a win rate of over 57%, 9th among players who have taken part in at least 100 faceoffs. He is a player complete who is capable of contributing 200 feet as well as on special teams, both on advantage and on the penalty kill. Offensively, he plays a key role in CH's massive attack in front of the net and ranks top 50 in the league in deflected shots and return chances, and 51st for shots from the bottom of the slot. His production is respectable, with 11 goals and 24 points in 42 games and could easily increase after a trade if he gets more dynamic linemates in Josh Anderson, Brendan Gallagher, Tanner Pearson, and Jake Evans. Defensively, Monahan is 8th among forwards in speared pucks and is a responsible player in his zone.
 
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Romang67 said:
A player who's a liability 5v5 and only produces on the PP doesn't sound like a good pickup for the playoffs, even if we ignore the fact that he ranked 210th among forwards in points/60 on the PP last season (up to a respectable, although hardly a gamechanging 94th this season).
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Now your trying to say Monahan is a liability 5v5.Unbeliveable.
Next.
 
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