OT: MLB Thread XLVII

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

 

[nyr2k2]

Four guys with modest upside. Nothing particularly noteworthy in the package.

I know he is coming back from a second TJ surgery and has had some other things, too, but I'd have guessed he'd fetch a little more. I assume Pittsburgh preferred four B/C level guys to two B-level guys or whatever. Or, maybe other teams just weren't that interested.

Anyway, seems like a good gamble for NYY.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Four guys with modest upside. Nothing particularly noteworthy in the package.

I know he is coming back from a second TJ surgery and has had some other things, too, but I'd have guessed he'd fetch a little more. I assume Pittsburgh preferred four B/C level guys to two B-level guys or whatever. Or, maybe other teams just weren't that interested.

Anyway, seems like a good gamble for NYY.

Especially when he's predicted only to get around $2.5MM in arbitration and then is controllable for 2 more season after this one i believe.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Cashman going all in on the high risk/reward rotation.

 

[RGY]

Cashman going all in on the high risk/reward rotation.

I like it. Its certainly a big risk, but I like it.

They still have the prospects to get Castillo if things change on that front. Or another top piece.

 

[nyr2k2]

Cashman going all in on the high risk/reward rotation.

Yeah. The Mets are banking on that two of the three of Peterson, Lucchesi, and Matz can pitch like they have in the past. The Yankees are hoping Kluber isn't finished and that Taillon after two TJs and a total revamp of his mechanics is still good.

I could add both working out and I could see both failing miserably. LOL. We shall see.

 

[darko]

Especially when he's predicted only to get around $2.5MM in arbitration and then is controllable for 2 more season after this one i believe.

1 more after this season.

 

[NYR94]

Lastings Milledge

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Ottavino dealt to Boston with a prospect for a player to be named later or cash. Yankees are only retaining $850K of the $9MM owed.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Cactus League, Arizona officials ask MLB to delay start of 2021 spring training due to COVID-19

hits keep on coming.

 

[mrmovies779]

Ottavino dealt to Boston with a prospect for a player to be named later or cash. Yankees are only retaining $850K of the $9MM owed.

Good riddance

 

[E-Train]

Nice deal. Frank German is well worth getting rid of that contract. I’d like another lefty bat somewhere in that lineup but the roster is good to go.

 

[Ben Grimm]

• Reports: Cleveland, 2B Hernández agree to deal
• Judge tosses ex-Angels staffer's defamation suit
• Cactus League exec: We'll be ready, delay or not
• Union rejects MLB bid for DH in NL, more playoffs
• Taillon excited to join Yankees, reunite with Cole
• MLB set to hold first pre-draft combine in June
• Yanks send Ottavino to Sox in rare deal for rivals

 

[Ben Grimm]

What current players are locks for the HoF?

Albert Pujols
Mike Trout
Clayton Kershaw
Miguel Cabrera
Justin Verlander
Max Scherzer
Zach Greinke
Yadier Molina

Not Yet: I love Joey Votto and he has all the metrics, but he's a 1B with 295 dingers and 966 RBIs. Chris Davis has that many HRs in one less season.

Will anyone get in the HoF this year (excluding players who were voted in last year)?

 

[Ben Grimm]

...Will anyone get in the HoF this year (excluding players who were voted in last year)?

Apparently not.

 

[Irishguy42]

Bonds not being in the HoF continues to be a disgrace

Also lol Schilling


Buddy, you don't even have the numbers to get into the HoF anyway

 

[Ben Grimm]

...Buddy, you don't even have the numbers to get into the HoF anyway

65.	Curt Schilling (20)	79.5	R
66.	Joe DiMaggio+ (13)	79.1	R
67.	Dan Brouthers+ (19)	78.7	L
68.	Brooks Robinson+ (23)	78.4	R
69.	Arky Vaughan+ (14)	78.0	L
70.	Robin Yount+ (20)	77.3	R
71.	Luke Appling+ (20)	77.1	R
72.	Ozzie Smith+ (19)	76.9	B
73.	Bobby Wallace+ (25)	76.3	R
74.	Jim McCormick (10)	76.2	R
75.	Paul Molitor+ (21)	75.7	R
76.	Old Hoss Radbourn+ (12)	75.4	R
77.	Sam Crawford+ (19)	75.3	L
	Bill Dahlen (21)	75.3	R
79.	Johnny Bench+ (17)	75.2	R
80.	Lou Whitaker (19)	75.1	L
81.	Mike Trout (10, 28)	74.6	R
82.	Reggie Jackson+ (21)	74.0	L
83.	Paul Waner+ (20)	73.9	L
84.	Frank Thomas+ (19)	73.8	R
85.	Pud Galvin+ (15)	73.5	R
86.	Jim Thome+ (22)	72.9	L
87.	Larry Walker+ (17)	72.7	L
88.	Zack Greinke (17, 36)	72.2	R
89.	Harry Heilmann+ (17)	72.1	R
90.	Rafael Palmeiro (20)	71.9	L
91.	Justin Verlander (16, 37)	71.8	R
92.	Derek Jeter+ (20)	71.3	R
	Johnny Mize+ (15)	71.3	L
94.	Bobby Grich (17)	71.1	R
95.	Frankie Frisch+ (19)	70.8	B
96.	Alan Trammell+ (20)	70.7	R
97.	Barry Larkin+ (19)	70.5	R
	Ron Santo+ (15)	70.5	R
99.	Ted Lyons+ (21)	70.4	B
100.	Carlos Beltran (20)	70.1	B

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Yeah, more WAR than Joe DiMaggio and Brooks Robinson is not enough for a pitcher to get in the Hall of Fame.

 

[Ben Grimm]

Who should get in next year?

1	y Curt Schilling	10th	70.0%	171	46	20	79.5	48.6	64.1	61.6	402	773	39	117	0	29	1	25	.151	.178	.171	.348	-9	216	146	3.46	127	1.137	569	436	22	3261.0	2998	347	711	3116	*1/H
2	y Roger Clemens	10th	61.0%	332	73	24	139.2	65.9	102.6	61.6	95	179	5	31	0	12	0	13	.173	.236	.207	.443	17	354	184	3.12	143	1.173	709	707	0	4916.2	4185	363	1580	4672	*1
3	y Barry Bonds	10th	60.7%	340	77	22	162.8	72.7	117.7	53.6	2986	9847	2227	2935	762	1996	514	2558	.298	.444	.607	1.051	182														*78HD/9
4	y Omar Vizquel	5th	52.6%	120	42	24	45.6	26.8	36.2	55.3	2968	10586	1445	2877	80	951	404	1028	.272	.336	.352	.688	82														*65H4/D379
5	y Scott Rolen	5th	35.3%	99	40	17	70.1	43.6	56.9	55.7	2038	7398	1211	2077	316	1287	118	899	.281	.364	.490	.855	122														*5/H
6	y Billy Wagner	7th	31.7%	107	24	16	27.7	19.8	23.7	32.6	810	20	1	2	0	1	0	1	.100	.143	.100	.243	-35	47	40	2.31	187	0.998	853	0	422	903.0	601	82	300	1196	*1
7	y Gary Sheffield	8th	30.5%	158	61	22	60.5	38.0	49.3	57.2	2576	9217	1636	2689	509	1676	253	1475	.292	.393	.514	.907	140														*9*7*5*D6H/3
8	y Todd Helton	4th	29.2%	175	59	17	61.8	46.6	54.2	54.8	2247	7962	1401	2519	369	1406	37	1335	.316	.414	.539	.953	133														*3H/7D9
9	y Manny Ramirez	6th	28.2%	226	69	19	69.3	39.9	54.6	53.6	2302	8244	1544	2574	555	1831	38	1329	.312	.411	.585	.996	154														*7*9*DH
10	y Jeff Kent	9th	27.5%	123	51	17	55.4	35.8	45.6	57.0	2298	8498	1320	2461	377	1518	94	801	.290	.356	.500	.855	123														*453H/D6
11	y Andruw Jones	5th	19.4%	109	34	17	62.7	46.4	54.6	58.0	2196	7599	1204	1933	434	1289	152	891	.254	.337	.486	.823	111														*89H7D/3
12	y Sammy Sosa	10th	13.9%	202	52	18	58.6	43.8	51.2	57.2	2354	8813	1475	2408	609	1667	234	929	.273	.344	.534	.878	128														*98DH/7
13	y Andy Pettitte	4th	11.3%	128	44	18	60.2	34.1	47.2	61.6	108	196	6	27	1	13	0	6	.138	.163	.184	.346	-10	256	153	3.85	117	1.351	531	521	0	3316.0	3448	288	1031	2448	*1/H
14	y Bobby Abreu	3rd	5.5%	95	54	18	60.2	41.6	50.9	57.2	2425	8480	1453	2470	288	1363	400	1476	.291	.395	.475	.870	128														*9DH7/8
15	y Alex Rodriguez	1st		390	77	22	117.5	64.3	90.9	55.3	2784	10566	2021	3115	696	2086	329	1338	.295	.380	.550	.930	140														*6*5DH/3
16	y Tim Hudson	2nd		66	42	17	57.9	38.3	48.1	61.6	297	613	35	98	4	42	0	26	.160	.196	.214	.410	10	222	133	3.49	120	1.239	482	479	0	3126.2	2957	248	917	2080	*1/HD
17	y Mark Buehrle	2nd		52	31	16	59.1	35.8	47.4	61.6	55	125	4	9	1	3	0	2	.072	.087	.112	.199	-47	214	160	3.81	117	1.281	518	493	0	3283.1	3472	361	734	1870	*1
18	y David Ortiz	1st		171	55	20	55.3	35.2	45.3	54.8	2408	8640	1419	2472	541	1768	17	1319	.286	.380	.552	.931	141														*D3H
19	y Mark Teixeira	1st		109	33	14	50.6	38.0	44.3	54.8	1862	6936	1099	1862	409	1298	26	918	.268	.360	.509	.869	126														*3D/H957
20	y Torii Hunter	2nd		58	34	19	50.7	30.8	40.7	58.0	2372	8857	1296	2452	353	1391	195	661	.277	.331	.461	.793	110														*8*9DH/7
21	y Jimmy Rollins	1st		121	42	17	47.6	32.7	40.1	55.3	2275	9294	1421	2455	231	936	470	813	.264	.324	.418	.743	95														*6H/D4
22	y Carl Crawford	1st		53	22	15	39.1	32.3	35.7	53.6	1716	6655	998	1931	136	766	480	377	.290	.330	.435	.765	105														*7H8D
23	y Jake Peavy	1st		56	27	15	39.2	30.7	35.0	61.6	278	519	48	87	3	33	0	22	.168	.205	.222	.427	17	152	126	3.63	110	1.196	388	377	0	2377.0	2134	259	708	2207	*1/H
24	y Dan Haren	2nd		30	26	13	35.1	33.2	34.1	61.6	218	414	31	83	2	39	0	17	.200	.233	.278	.511	36	153	131	3.75	109	1.181	391	380	1	2419.2	2357	305	500	2013	*1/H
25	y Barry Zito	2nd

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Leetch3]

Bonds not being in the HoF continues to be a disgrace

Also lol Schilling


Buddy, you don't even have the numbers to get into the HoF anyway

he's an idiot but he's not completely wrong. the entire voting process is a joke. bonds and clemens will get in next year cause its their final year cause the voters don't actually care about steroids they just wanted to make them wait so they could pretend to care

 

[ElLeetch]

Bonds not being in the HoF continues to be a disgrace

Also lol Schilling


Buddy, you don't even have the numbers to get into the HoF anyway

he is such an absolute shitbag.

 

[NYSPORTS]

one of many 5 tool can’t miss misses

 

[NYSPORTS]

What is Bauer waiting for?

If the Mets made an offer weeks ago then what is the problem or is Bauer the problem? When do the Mets pull the deal back?

 

[bleedblue94]

What is Bauer waiting for?

If the Mets made an offer weeks ago then what is the problem or is Bauer the problem? When do the Mets pull the deal back?

Really what is the rush for him? The market has opened up a bit with teams starting to spend some money now, why wouldn't he wait and see if he can land a bigger contract. He's the best FA pitcher out there, he doesn't need to rush, he is going to get his money...

 

[NYSPORTS]

Really what is the rush for him? The market has opened up a bit with teams starting to spend some money now, why wouldn't he wait and see if he can land a bigger contract. He's the best FA pitcher out there, he doesn't need to rush, he is going to get his money...

He might be the best FA pitcher out there yet i see him as a huge risk in the Ny market. I hope the Mets pull the offer back. Good pitcher and was also hated by his teammates, he had issues with fans, managers, throws a ball over CF fence and guaranteed something else is going to happen. Why take the risk?

 

[bleedblue94]

He might be the best FA pitcher out there yet i see him as a huge risk in the Ny market. I hope the Mets pull the offer back. Good pitcher and was also hated by his teammates, he had issues with fans, managers, throws a ball over CF fence and guaranteed something else is going to happen. Why take the risk?

I don't understand this response. I responded to your post asking why bauer is taking so long to accept the mets offer and you replied with a tangent about why you dont want him...