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OT: MLB Thread Part XXVIII: Vote Starlin Castro for the ASG

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Lundquest said:
The Mets won’t trade Wheeler to the Yankees regardless of the haul they would get back, I have no doubts about that.
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Not sure about this, but the Red Sox being involved tells me if the packages are similar, he'll end up there.

You have to think the Sox might actually try and turn him into a reliever when the postseason comes up. Use him like they did Eovaldi, but he probably slides into their rotation at #3.

I'd also like to know how Wheeler's arm is "hanging on a thread" when he is constantly able to go deep into games and still be effective (averaging 6 1/3 IP per start). Not to mention, but some NL teams might get involved because his bat actually plays. Has a near 100 OPS+, which is an average MLB position player. Try and take advantage of the year with the bat he is having while getting a middle of the rotation pitcher to boot.

Think the top arms for the Yankees to get is Stroman, Wheeler, MadBum, and Bauer in that order. Not sure Bauer would survive two weeks with the Yankees media coverage. MadBum doesn't seem to want to come to NY or wants to get paid the money the Giants never gave him, and rightfully so.
 
RGY said:
@Bob Richards you deleted that post reallll quick.

Yea I mean i really would not look at WAR as the barometer for acquiring a pitcher in that group, however, both Stroman and Bauer are ahead of Wheeler.

I am looking that the other stats and underlying numbers and overall they are just not that impressive. Certainly not enough to get in a bidding war over. His ERA has always been up and down which is a reflection of his career really.

I would rather put my chips in the middle on Bauer, Stroman, and even MadBum despite his dip.
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Bob Richards said:
I deleted it because I realized I didn’t really want to get into it but I stand by what I said. He’s having a way better season than his ERA indicates. Like most Mets pitchers, his FIP is noticeably lower because this teams defense is so bad.

You can prefer the other guys and that’s cool I’m not saying otherwise.
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Wait, we can delete our own posts?
 
The Yankees need to go after bigger fish than the Wheelers and Stromans of the world. We tried that with Sonny Gray and it didn't work out too well. Cashman can't make that mistake again.
 
Must be a perk, I definitely don't have any delete option.

LeetchisGod said:
The Yankees need to go after bigger fish than the Wheelers and Stromans of the world. We tried that with Sonny Gray and it didn't work out too well. Cashman can't make that mistake again.
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Who are the bigger fish that are somewhat readily available?
 
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Stroman is good and at the very least, we know he can pitch in the division.

I expect that they'll end up with him or Bumgarner. Bauer probably stays in Cleveland
 
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LeetchisGod said:
Bumgarner and Bauer are the obvious ones.
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Only one of them is readily available.

Bauer is wait and see, but the Indians are in the hunt for that division and its a tough sell to move him when thats the case.

Bumgarner would probably be my choice based on price/history but you'd be taking a pretty big risk assuming that he can recapture the magic. It may be as simple as getting out of a shitty situation, but there are other red flags there that can't be ignored.
 
LeetchisGod said:
Bumgarner and Bauer are the obvious ones.
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Bumgarner has declined over recent years and you'd be paying more for pedigree. Yeah he's had all-time playoff performances but I aint baking on him repeating that at this point at Yankee stadium with the pitcher he is today.

And the Cleveland Indians are currently in a playoff spot, why are they trading their best pitcher?
 
ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
Only one of them is readily available.

Bauer is wait and see, but the Indians are in the hunt for that division and its a tough sell to move him when thats the case.

Bumgarner would probably be my choice based on price/history but you'd be taking a pretty big risk assuming that he can recapture the magic. It may be as simple as getting out of a ****ty situation, but there are other red flags there that can't be ignored.
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I hear you but I'd rather go down swinging for the fences if that makes any sense. We settled for Gray when Verlander was available and suffered for it. Stroman's career can't hold a candle to MadBum.
 
Filthy Dangles said:
Bumgarner has declined over recent years and you'd be paying more for pedigree. Yeah he's had all-time playoff performances but I aint baking on him repeating that at this point at Yankee stadium with the pitcher he is today.

And the Cleveland Indians are currently in a playoff spot, why are they trading their best pitcher?
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The same could have been said about Verlander before he went to Houston and he was much older than MadBum.
 
LeetchisGod said:
The same could have been said about Verlander before he went to Houston and he was much older than MadBum.
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True but Bumgarner is a rental...Verlander had term and Astros Player Development saw a player they could fix.

Plus Yankees are on his no trade list. He would never waive, I think he's explicitly said this too.
 
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