OT: MLB Thread - Part XV: Judge Swings With A Vortex Power Bat

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Another crappy loss. Pineda was handed a 4 run lead and gave it all back very quickly. Would have been even faster, if not for Hicks's catch in the first inning.
 
All went downhill for Harvey after he was forced to start when he wasn't ready to. Two starts pushed up, hasn't been the same since.

Give him a couple weeks off and get himself right again
 
All went downhill for Harvey after he was forced to start when he wasn't ready to. Two starts pushed up, hasn't been the same since.

Give him a couple weeks off and get himself right again

He sits at 92-93, he's a much different pitcher than he was when he was successful. I don't buy that his struggles have anything to do with rest or anything other than him not having learned to pitched with vastly diminished velocity.
 
He sits at 92-93, he's a much different pitcher than he was when he was successful. I don't buy that his struggles have anything to do with rest or anything other than him not having learned to pitched with vastly diminished velocity.

Then he's lying. He complained yesterday about his arm.
 
He sits at 92-93, he's a much different pitcher than he was when he was successful. I don't buy that his struggles have anything to do with rest or anything other than him not having learned to pitched with vastly diminished velocity.

Look back at his first 4 starts of the season. He was as good as advertised. April 27 start vs Atlanta. He was pushed up a day after he was told he was on his normal track. Hard workout the day before. Went out there with absolutely nothing, 5 starts into his return from a surgery guys have a hard time coming back from. It set him back. They did it to him another time, moved him up, but with notice this time. Still nothing.

Another season, more and more completely mismanagement of injuries/players coming back from injuries.

Get him some time off. 10 day DL. Have him come back in two weeks. I'll reevaluate from there. They have options available to them now with Lugo and Matz in the rotation. Can spot Montero a game if needed. Same for Pill. Milone is still around too.
 
I don't know how the Yankees have lost 2 to the Angels, without Mike Trout and 7 other pitchers... Judge has struggled this series.

Angels also took 2 of 3 against Houston in Houston, surprisingly enough.

Remember how I said that Judge had gone pretty much the entire season with out smoking balls right at people?

That happened in this series (it was actually a common theme for all of their bats, but thats gonna happen.)

They got Carter'd in the 2nd game and left their brains in their hotel rooms last night. Not worried, but definitely annoyed with how this played out because they should have swept.
 
Angels also took 2 of 3 against Houston in Houston, surprisingly enough.

Remember how I said that Judge had gone pretty much the entire season with out smoking balls right at people?

That happened in this series (it was actually a common theme for all of their bats, but thats gonna happen.)

They got Carter'd in the 2nd game and left their brains in their hotel rooms last night. Not worried, but definitely annoyed with how this played out because they should have swept.

I hate Carter. He is brutal. The Yankees NEED Bird back. But yeah, I guess that did happen a bit for Judge. The game where they lost in extras, he smoked a liner in his 2nd AB, but Calhoun robbed him. So there was one occasion.
 
I hate Carter. He is brutal. The Yankees NEED Bird back. But yeah, I guess that did happen a bit for Judge. The game where they lost in extras, he smoked a liner in his 2nd AB, but Calhoun robbed him. So there was one occasion.

Carter is a terrible baseball player. He has power but is well below average at every other aspect of the game.
 
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I hate Carter. He is brutal. The Yankees NEED Bird back. But yeah, I guess that did happen a bit for Judge. The game where they lost in extras, he smoked a liner in his 2nd AB, but Calhoun robbed him. So there was one occasion.

Happened in the 7th yesterday too when Young (who somehow turned into Trout in this series) caught a ball that he smoked to left.
 
Carter is terrible baseball player. He has power but is well below average at every other aspect of the game.

They need Bird back in the worst way. I'd rather go through struggles and growing pains with him than watch Carter strike out every other at bat.
 
Look back at his first 4 starts of the season. He was as good as advertised. April 27 start vs Atlanta. He was pushed up a day after he was told he was on his normal track. Hard workout the day before. Went out there with absolutely nothing, 5 starts into his return from a surgery guys have a hard time coming back from. It set him back. They did it to him another time, moved him up, but with notice this time. Still nothing.

Another season, more and more completely mismanagement of injuries/players coming back from injuries.

Get him some time off. 10 day DL. Have him come back in two weeks. I'll reevaluate from there. They have options available to them now with Lugo and Matz in the rotation. Can spot Montero a game if needed. Same for Pill. Milone is still around too.

His surgery is not one with a high success rate. I saw no reason to be optimistic about his return. Who has come back successfully? Chris Young, a guy who never threw hard to begin with. Even when his results were positive his first handful of starts, his stuff still wasn't great. He has to learn to pitch living in the low-90s. Until he can do that I don't see him as a consistently successful pitcher even with all the rest in the world.
 
So now Harvey is out multiple weeks with a stress injury to his scapula. The guy is broken, folks, and this particular injury isn't on the Mets (unless you expected they weren't going to pitch him until after the ASG I guess).
 
I mean who even cares at this point he will never be the Dark Knight again he is a shell of himself let him walk to the Yankees maybe the change will revive his career
 
I mean who even cares at this point he will never be the Dark Knight again he is a shell of himself let him walk to the Yankees maybe the change will revive his career

I don't think his arm is ever going to be able to throw the way it once did. For him to return to form he'll have to reinvent himself as a guy that keeps the ball down and out-pitches the opponent rather than a guy that just beats you on pure stuff. The pure stuff Harvey is gone.
 
Jose Reyes is a bottom five worst MLB starter. Where are these good players? TJ Rivera is also now starting. Where are these good players?

 
I get why people are going crazy over Judge and rightfully so..

but Gary Sanchez has 31 homeruns in 343 career ABs... (you get over 500 in a season)..

Talk about a future 3/4
 
Greg Bird (ankle, leg) has been taken off his minor rehab assignment after suffering a setback.
Bird fouled a ball off his leg in Wednesday night's game for Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, which has led to renewed swelling in his injured leg/ankle. He'll head to New York to be examined by team physician Dr. Christopher Ahmed. Chris Carter will continue to man first base in his absence.
Source: Brian Monzo on Twitter

Bird is quickly headed towards being injury prone. :shakehead
 
Greg Bird (ankle, leg) has been taken off his minor rehab assignment after suffering a setback.
Bird fouled a ball off his leg in Wednesday night's game for Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, which has led to renewed swelling in his injured leg/ankle. He'll head to New York to be examined by team physician Dr. Christopher Ahmed. Chris Carter will continue to man first base in his absence.
Source: Brian Monzo on Twitter

Bird is quickly headed towards being injury prone. :shakehead

Nick Johnson part II? hopefully not...

Wonder if this could make the Yankees players for someone like Hosmer even as only a rental...
 
His surgery is not one with a high success rate. I saw no reason to be optimistic about his return. Who has come back successfully? Chris Young, a guy who never threw hard to begin with. Even when his results were positive his first handful of starts, his stuff still wasn't great. He has to learn to pitch living in the low-90s. Until he can do that I don't see him as a consistently successful pitcher even with all the rest in the world.

Harrison from Texas is the only one to come back. I'm not sure why it's such a hard thing to come back from since it really doesn't impact the arm shoulder or elbow. It may cause symptoms there when it's ongoing but the surgery itself doesn't involve those areas
 
Greg Bird (ankle, leg) has been taken off his minor rehab assignment after suffering a setback.
Bird fouled a ball off his leg in Wednesday night's game for Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, which has led to renewed swelling in his injured leg/ankle. He'll head to New York to be examined by team physician Dr. Christopher Ahmed. Chris Carter will continue to man first base in his absence.
Source: Brian Monzo on Twitter

Bird is quickly headed towards being injury prone. :shakehead

This absolutely sucks.
 
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