Yeh. You could say that.
And you are one hundred percent right -- when presented with enough solid evidence, only fools stick to their opinions.
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And you are one hundred percent right -- when presented with enough solid evidence, only fools stick to their opinions.
I doubt they're interested in moving him and I doubt there is a lot of league-wide shift into thinking he's more than what he was for most prior to this season. Now, if he does this all again next year, popping for something in the 50-60 point range or better, that's going to alter perceptions. So right now, he's probably worth more to the Sabres as is - versatile depth scorer who can play up or down their lineup at a relatively low cap hit - than trying to overcome his perception. There is still the possibility he is only a 45-ish point guy who just happened to stumble into some great opportunity due to an injury to Thompson. Given the conservative nature of most GM's, I doubt they're thinking he's more than what they already assumed him to be so the offer isn't going to be to the value he provides to Buffalo as is.
Idk, he seems like a completely different player now that he’s brimming with confidence. He’s really good at extending plays, especially along the wall and now he’s shooting more. Always had the talent - that’s why he was such a high pick, just seems to be a late bloomer which maybe shouldn’t even be that surprising considering he was drafted out of high school, left college a year too early and dealt with injuries all last year. I just don’t know where he fits long term with the Sabres. If I was another team I would absolutely be interested in taking him on.
Does he play PK or have shutdown C upside? Vancouver wants that for 3rd C, could offer Ethan Bear (presume re-signed) as a fringe top-4 RHD.
They weren't using him as such, so your search might best be for someone else.
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In the last month Casey has looked like WJC MVP Mittelstadt.
Can we fix the spelling of his name in the thread title.
Can we fix the spelling of his name in the thread title.
Ace
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He played most of the season on the third line with the scraps. We saw what happened when he got away from Olofsson and played with talented forwards due to injury…he exploded. If he has a top six role all year how many points are we talking about? Because it’s a lot. He wasn’t on the #1 PP most of the time either.
Now...the problem is he isn’t going to have a top 6 role next year either and by the time top drafted talent comes to join in on the third line…a decision will already have to have been made on his future.
They should try to get him to take a potentially team friendly deal because there is risk on both sides…and when Savoie and Kulich get there in two years they’re going to look really smart because he will play with better talent and produce more. If he won’t sign it…play out the year and move on.
He’s in a tough spot because he won’t get those top minutes next year…and then if he’s traded he has to adjust to a whole new team and system and that transition year is the only one he would have to earn his next contract. Tough spot to be in. He should either ask for a trade or an extension this off-season because he’s about to find his career in a tough place if he gets neither
Now...the problem is he isn’t going to have a top 6 role next year either and by the time top drafted talent comes to join in on the third line…a decision will already have to have been made on his future.
They should try to get him to take a potentially team friendly deal because there is risk on both sides…and when Savoie and Kulich get there in two years they’re going to look really smart because he will play with better talent and produce more. If he won’t sign it…play out the year and move on.
He’s in a tough spot because he won’t get those top minutes next year…and then if he’s traded he has to adjust to a whole new team and system and that transition year is the only one he would have to earn his next contract. Tough spot to be in. He should either ask for a trade or an extension this off-season because he’s about to find his career in a tough place if he gets neither
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No interest in moving Mitts right now. Not after how good he looked the 2nd half of the season, and especially as the #1C this last stretch. He’s finally starting to look like we had all hoped.
Plus, he’s reportedly one of those “glue” guys in the locker room. Very well liked. Always organizing get-togethers with teammates and stuff.
I want to see what he does next season, hopefully in the top 6 all year (as long as he continues to earn it).
Plus, he’s reportedly one of those “glue” guys in the locker room. Very well liked. Always organizing get-togethers with teammates and stuff.
I want to see what he does next season, hopefully in the top 6 all year (as long as he continues to earn it).
Djp
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after Granato came on he started to show signs
last season he was hit with multiple injuries
this year he was healthy
thevthing is buffalo has a bunch of young forwards from 22 and 23 drafts to come. Next 3 yrs they have Skinner, Thompson, Tuch, and Cozens, Peterka, and Quinn on the team.
if he gets a contract extension, I don’t see it being a long one.
he mainly played middle 6. He got most of his points from that. At 0.5 ppg for ES.
I don’t see buffalo being a top 6/ bottom 6 splot. I see thrm having 3 scoring lines
Skinner-Thompson-Quinn
Greenway/ Peterka -Mitts-Tuch/ Cozens
Greenway/Peterka-Krebs-Tuch/Cozens
Mitts could be a winger and Cozens a center.
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When your most common partner most of the season is Olofsson you are decidedly on a bad line and not playing with the caliber of talent in a top 6. There were two lines that played together most of the time when healthy. Mitts wasn’t on either of them. He got the crap left over. When injuries put him in position to play with those better players…his production per game skyrocketed. Olofsson is death.
I think Sabres will hold onto him and re-evaluate by mid-season of next year.
They have 8/9 of their top 3 lines in stone next year between Thompson, Cozens, Mittelstadt, Skinner, Peterka, Tuch,
Quinn, & Greenway.
Krebs is also a possibility but he could also stay in that 4th like center role if they try to develop him into a major PK, face off, d-zone split kind of player.
And then they’ll have guys like Jost, Girgensons, Okposo (if they bring any back) competing with Savoie, Kulich, Rousèk & Rosèn for those last spots.
Tons of depth, but I believe they intend to hold onto that depth for another season.
They have 8/9 of their top 3 lines in stone next year between Thompson, Cozens, Mittelstadt, Skinner, Peterka, Tuch,
Quinn, & Greenway.
Krebs is also a possibility but he could also stay in that 4th like center role if they try to develop him into a major PK, face off, d-zone split kind of player.
And then they’ll have guys like Jost, Girgensons, Okposo (if they bring any back) competing with Savoie, Kulich, Rousèk & Rosèn for those last spots.
Tons of depth, but I believe they intend to hold onto that depth for another season.
Matt Ress
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Yes. Add to that we have so much future capital. Why move a good piece that you'll just have to hope to fill when you just don't have to.
The cost is a shutdown top 4 RD with some term or 3+ years or more of team control. Very simple. No reason to trade him otherwise. We don't want picks. A backup goalie isn't enough. A straight up trade would have to be a centre who can take draw, play a heavy game and still have almost as many points — and why would another team trade such a guy for him
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Ottawa won’t have their 24 1 st rounder…… when they win one of the lotteries and move up to the 2 nd pick over all in 23 draft…….. resulting in Arizona getting Ottawa's 24. 1st round pick which will be 24 th pick over all in 2024 draft.
Karma that follows the original version of the Winnipeg Jets franchise!
hes not moving. pretty certain teams will not offer up anything that is close to enough value where it makes any sense for buffalo to deal him.
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Not enough.
With the way Mittelstadt has played as the top line C to close out the season I'd consider him an actual top 6-player.
Now will he be a bonafide 1C from here on out? Maybe not, but who's to say, really. He's IMO earned an extensive look in that role and stranger things have happened, than an uber talented former high draft pick finally hitting his stride at age 24. Case in point: Thompson, Tage.
The Sabres are however in a position where Mitts doesn't need to be that guy and could even be used as trade bait for the right return. Brannström ain't it, though.
As much as I enjoyed Mitt's finish to the season, Skinner and Tuch are two of the best 5v5 wingers in the league so not surprised his performance was better. He is still a 3 C/W unless I can see him elevate his line next year. His value to the Sabres will be higher than his price so he won't move.
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What’s the going rate for a 60-point forward making $2.5 million who will still be an RFA when his deal expires?
If the Sabres were to trade him now, it wouldn’t be for less than that. Why would they?
Ethan Bear’s value a few months ago was a 5th round pick. I don’t think that’s going to cut it.
If the Sabres were to trade him now, it wouldn’t be for less than that. Why would they?
Ethan Bear’s value a few months ago was a 5th round pick. I don’t think that’s going to cut it.
I think he is a perfect example of a player worth more to their team than to anyone else. Mitts is developing into a very useful player. But, he needs to keep developing it the next year and the best place for that is the sabres for him.
