Player Discussion Mitch Marner - On Hiatus

[ToneDog]

Yet over the last 8 years the core 4 have won more playoff games then McDrai.

Leafs 24 wins
Oilers 22 wins

One of us must have failed math. Oilers won 15 games this post season alone and won 4 more rounds the previous 7 years. That's another minimum of 16 wins. So they've won a minimum of 31 games. No need to look up the exact number of wins since 31 > 24.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

I don't understand why the collective failure of our top players is somehow the fault of one of them.

I think it's more so the failure of strategy which is why all the players suffer from the lack of scoring, no more perimeter play with Berube at the helm.

Keefe is indeed a terrible playoff coach but that shouldn't excuse the core.

Good players should perform. McDavid and Drai have had terrible coaches but their playoff numbers don't drop (unless injured). Berube can tell Marner to drive the net, but he's not doing it. Not even Keefe was telling Marner to do flybys and avoid contact in the last series. That has nothing to do with strategy.

I think even if the core maintains its performance, the cap structure is out of order for a proper cup contender. This should have been changed 3-4 years ago. The fact they keep underperforming makes it worse.

 

[colchar]

Additionally don’t you find it odd that Ryan O’Reilly was trying to persuade his GM to acquire a locker room cancer?

You're assuming that claim is true.

 

[Antropovsky]

Johnston mentioned thst Marner "maybe cares too much". I'm tired of hearing "he cares too much"

You can't be bailing on physical play and also "care too much"... you don't demand a ridiculous contract if you care too much.

What did he do in the playoffs that one could say, oh wow, that's a player who cares too much?

He's out there pulling the chute on pucks he's 10' feet closer to than his opponents. He's avoiding the dirty areas, the corners and the front of the net. He's not skating into scrums where his teammates are out numbered 6-4.

I remember reading an article about Gary Robert's face looking like a rail road track up close from all the scars... I remember reading an article about teammates playing their ass off because they feared being confronted by Robert's. I remember reading about how Robert's was trying to fight Corson in the dressing room. This is a guy who cares "too much".

Marner cares too little.

 

[francis246]

You're assuming that claim is true.

The claim is true.

 

[Racer88]

Johnston mentioned thst Marner "maybe cares too much". I'm tired of hearing "he cares too much"

You can't be bailing on physical play and also "care too much"... you don't demand a ridiculous contract if you care too much.

What did he do in the playoffs that one could say, oh wow, that's a player who cares too much?

He's out there pulling the chute on pucks he's 10' feet closer to than his opponents. He's avoiding the dirty areas, the corners and the front of the net. He's not skating into scrums where his teammates are out numbered 6-4.

I remember reading an article about Gary Robert's face looking like a rail road track up close from all the scars... I remember reading an article about teammates playing their ass off because they feared being confronted by Robert's. I remember reading about how Robert's was trying to fight Corson in the dressing room. This is a guy who cares "too much".

Marner cares too little.

Ya what a whiny wimp,y excuse…….he cares to much.
It’s laughable.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

he’ll come back and take a deal that’s 11.5 or less

We can’t run it back.

Keeping Marner is running it back

One of us must have failed math

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Johnston mentioned thst Marner "maybe cares too much". I'm tired of hearing "he cares too much"

Hopefully Marner has a IDGAF attitude on the Devils

 

[IPS]

Yet over the last 8 years the core 4 have won more playoff games then McDrai.

Leafs 24 wins
Oilers 22 wins

No they didn't, wtf are you even talking about.

 

[IPS]

Wow! This takes the concept of interpreting stats in illogical fashion to support your argument to a whole new level.

Well thankfully his lack of basic math skills couldn't even make it add up.

 

[francis246]

We can’t run it back.

Keeping Marner is running it back

I doubt Marner wants to leave and I think the leafs wanna keep their 3 stars for as long as possible. I think JT is let go and not resigned. But who knows I don’t really care either way TBH. If he stays, cool. He’s a good player, if he goes cool, it’ll be interesting to see what they do with his money. I’m always gonna be a fan of Marner, so I’ll watch him and enjoy his career just like I did with Kadri when he went to Colorado and Kessel when he went to Pittsburgh. Those two were my favourite players before. And I’ll never stop cheering for the leafs. Despite what people think, you can be fans of both a player and a team. There are no rules to fandom. Everyone can do/feel as they please lol It’s not that deep for me tbh.

 

[hullsy47]

Ya what a whiny wimp,y excuse…….he cares to much.
It’s laughable.

Johnson can't say much .he ll be unemployed if he pisses a Leaf player or management staff off
He leeches off the leafs like about 15 others

 

[Antropovsky]

Ya what a whiny wimp,y excuse…….he cares to much.
It’s laughable.

Yep... I think they're confusing being sensitive with caring too much. I'm sure when he's confronted about his play, he balls is eyes out.

 

[Leaf Fans]

We don't know for sure that the Team wants to trade him either.

This is is the crux of the entire situation.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Well thankfully his lack of basic math skills couldn't even make it add up.

Haha yeah. I didn't even pay attention to the numbers, just what he was saying they meant. I assumed he had the numbers right, I guess I give people more credit than they deserve.

 

[Racer88]

Johnson can't say much .he ll be unemployed if he pisses a Leaf player or management staff off
He leeches off the leafs like about 15 others

Exactly.

 

[Menzinger]

The one trend of the summer is that I think folks have been overestimating the ease at which a team can overcome an nmc. If the guy doesn't want to go anywhere, he's not.

The idea the Leafs can just trade him mid season is also pretty suspect. If the guy doesn't want to leave while the team is heading to the playoffs, he's not waiving.

Its an extension or he walks.

 

[Arzak]

One of us must have failed math. Oilers won 15 games this post season alone and won 4 more rounds the previous 7 years. That's another minimum of 16 wins. So they've won a minimum of 31 games. No need to look up the exact number of wins since 31 > 24.

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That's not even touching our playoff win column includes round 0 of SC playoffs we proudly count

 

[Superstar]

Johnston mentioned thst Marner "maybe cares too much". I'm tired of hearing "he cares too much"

You can't be bailing on physical play and also "care too much"... you don't demand a ridiculous contract if you care too much.

What did he do in the playoffs that one could say, oh wow, that's a player who cares too much?

He's out there pulling the chute on pucks he's 10' feet closer to than his opponents. He's avoiding the dirty areas, the corners and the front of the net. He's not skating into scrums where his teammates are out numbered 6-4.

I remember reading an article about Gary Robert's face looking like a rail road track up close from all the scars... I remember reading an article about teammates playing their ass off because they feared being confronted by Robert's. I remember reading about how Robert's was trying to fight Corson in the dressing room. This is a guy who cares "too much".

Marner cares too little.

He cares too much about what exactly? Golf, summer vacations, his tan, his image, his brand, his money?

 

[Confucius]

One of us must have failed math. Oilers won 15 games this post season alone and won 4 more rounds the previous 7 years. That's another minimum of 16 wins. So they've won a minimum of 31 games. No need to look up the exact number of wins since 31 > 24.

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My error, my stats didn’t include this past season. Anyway…

 

[Confucius]

Wow! This takes the concept of interpreting stats in illogical fashion to support your argument to a whole new level.

Always strive for the next level.nothing ventured nothing gained. lol!

 

[sunstersun]

The problem with the team is that we spend 44 million on offence and we get terrible goal scoring.

How is the money allocation the problem? If instead of Marner and Tavares, we had Drai and Mcdavid wouldn't we be fine even if we had to allocate 44 million to them?

Again, the problem isn't 44 mil on offence. The problem is 44 mil on offence that doesn't produce offence.

 

[RunItBackAgain]

f*** Bitch Marner

 

[Antropovsky]

He cares too much about what exactly? Golf, summer vacations, his tan, his image, his brand, his money?

Here is a recent Marner summer... obviously caring way too much about the playoffs defeats. And... by the looks of his body, has been using that extra long summer time to train and come back ready to no longer be "tired of the feeling" of losing and relieve himself of stresses of "caring too much".

https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/s/BGIeq3ar9q

 

[Kazparov]

Here is a recent Marner summer... obviously caring way too much about the playoffs defeats. And... by the looks of his body, has been using that extra long summer time to train and come back ready to no longer be "tired of the feeling" of losing and relieve himself of stresses of "caring too much".

https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/s/BGIeq3ar9q

He's a god what did you expect?

Man social media is so dumb.