There seems to be a divide between fans of the team and those that just hate Marner, so weird.
Yes, linematers matter. You might be missing part of my point because I don't want to keep repeating myself. Marner and Nylander both perform great with Matthews. It's when they are with Tavares that Nylander becomes horrible but Marner doesn't. It should be very obvious when you watch the games. When Nylander is on the ice with anyone other than Matthews they get scored on a lot even though they aren't playing against the oppositions best.
Can't say I didn't try. Nylander, especially lately is producing a lot of point he just gets scored on A LOT. You just have to stop counting points and stop watching the puck and it's right in front you.
My understanding of this place is that this is very much not OK.
So just Nylander gets scored on. Not any of the other people on the ice. I get it now
Not entirely, but not getting scored on is pretty important don't you think? More importantly focusing ONLY on points is the problem. We don't measure things like getting into passing lanes in the offensive and defensive zone, chipping the puck out, covering for a linemate out of position etc etc etc. C'mon you've got to see at least some of the amazing things Marner does away from the puck. How many goals has he prevented by doing all of these things? We don't know. We don't measure it. It does show itself via proxy in that when Marner is on the ice less goals against are scored. It's similar to what happens when his linemates sh% drops and his points drop. It's really obvious when you pay attention but if you're not seeing this stuff it would explain why you are confused.
No, but when Nylander and Tavares play together it's a disaster. When Marner and Tavares play together it's just as good as Nylander with Matthews because Matthews is good enough to cover for Nylander disaster. Don't you see this? Over their career Matthews is +142 Marner is +119 and Nylander is +25. I'll assume that you can appreciate the context.
The way they try to sneak marner in every time matthews has a good game is insane you can see matthews carrying the line yet they’ll ignore the obvious to support the narrative LOL
And of course the marner crew ignored the whether Hes a playoff performer or not
YEAH no hard pass he can take his talents somewhere else for 13 million dollars him on the roster is only insuring we don’t have money to pay people that are gonna help us do something in the playoffs domi can take his place and get out of the 3c holeYou do realize domi got under four million dollars for being a playmaker that’s not a great 2 way player and @Antropovsky has shown time and time again that domi numbers are actually better with matthews and the eye test supports that so are you implying that the 9.5 difference in the salary he wants is cause of the defensive end?
Marner is just such a tricky guy to kind of get a conclusion on. One thing for sure, I think most of us fans are frustrated with his personality.
If he would stop thinking he’s an equal to matthews that’s a start and if he’s intent on believing that he should be on the second line to prove that the offence is running through him this year like it was for nylander last year and I’m not seeing where he’s closer to matthews salary than nylanders that’s an actual rediculous take
Your interpretation of what you think I'm saying is very strange.
I believe I answered this in my recent post. Try to only keep one thread going with me.
Just you know, this poster thinks that Marner's 3 points in 7 games in the last playoffs isn't a concern, apparently the only thing that matters is that he was +1. So that basically confirms that he's the only one on the ice.
No doubt about that, he doesn't do himself any favours.
