Marner is a weasel but Matthews the guy who’s getting max AAV on the shortest term is Jesus Christ reincarnated!! Gotcha LOL, what a joke.
See I don’t mind the Matthews term because I think he won’t age well.
Marner is a weasel but Matthews the guy who’s getting max AAV on the shortest term is Jesus Christ reincarnated!! Gotcha LOL, what a joke.
Yeah maybe during Willy’s demotion cause marner wasn’t the only one who hit the fourth lineNo there were many games Matthews played with Hyman and brown. I went to about 4 that year. He was with them for quite a few
They were the top line of a basement team in their primes, but were not the top line on any team Marner was a part of. You might not like it. But it's true.
Matthews also getting garbage treatment doesn't change Marner's garbage treatment, and Matthews at least had Nylander for the majority of those two years.
JT benefits from playing with Willy, so I'd have him or a par with Matty.In order of playoff importance when the series is on the line this is my pecking order.
Nylander
Tavares
Matthews
Marner
Marner was never put on the top line.Yes. Because Marner couldn’t make the leafs top line the best.
No, they're not. Draisaitl is not a pending UFA. He re-signed last offseason.
That's what you're doing. Using a future cap that didn't exist when Draisaitl signed to pretend that Draisaitl signed for less than he did.
This one.
Both career and last 5 seasons Willy is second on the team in both goals and assists, both overall and at ES.Two huge mistakes. Should we make a third mistake and pay Marner $13-14m ?
Willie is second in goal scoring though but the only time he was worth $11.5m was in the 39 games he dominated before he signed. Sadly we don't see enough of that guy.
No, they're not. Draisaitl is not a pending UFA. He re-signed last offseason.
That's what you're doing. Using a future cap that didn't exist when Draisaitl signed to pretend that Draisaitl signed for less than he did.
This one.
Which is part of last offseason. This season hadn't started yet. Nothing had changed yet. It's really misleading to pretend that signing in two different offseasons with different information is the same thing.Last offseason? Draisaitl signed on Sept. 3rd 2024
And now he's not a pending UFA... Because he signed last offseason.Draisaitl was a pending UFA before he re-signed so I have no idea what you're talking about.
That doesn't matter. They're not signing at the same time with the same information.Marner and Drai are on the same contract years.
I can see the logic - going as a free agent means the team will be stronger by the good player they don't give in the trade.Well if he refused a trade there, why would he sign there a couple of months later. Pathetic he couldn’t read the tea leaves and just move on. Carolina has just as small of a shot going deep in the playoffs as we do. Giving up the 8 year deal option as well, a pathetic decision.
Wouldn't a more selfish move by waiting to sign as a free agent so his new team doesn't lose a player in a trade?He's a good teammate, that would be a selfish move.
Why would he want to leave his teammates in the middle of the season?
Not sure what 'tea leaves' you read but everything we know to date is the team wants him to stay and he wants to stay.
So they asked him if he was willing to move rather than asking him to move?The team never asked him to move, Carolina asked if he was available so they checked on his thoughts.
We won't know that until he signs.
Which is part of last offseason. This season hadn't started yet. Nothing had changed yet. It's really misleading to pretend that signing in two different offseasons with different information is the same thing.
And now he's not a pending UFA... Because he signed last offseason.
That doesn't matter. They're not signing at the same time with the same information.
Report: Hurricanes expected to pursue Marner if he hits free agency
An offseason stretches from when a team's season ends to when the next one begins. That's why it's called an offseason. You can't equate signings in two different offseasons using different information.How is it two different offseasons?
You don’t ask him to waive his no trade clause without wanting to move him.
Not sure what you’re saying here???Pretty terrible asset management though.. talk about tipping your cards when you’ve got nothing in your hand
JVR bozak kessel was the top line for years.
You might not like it. But it’s true. Unless superstar Marner wasn’t even kessel.
Many players don’t get the version of the top line and 2 1000 game vets and PP1 time.
Matthews got saddled with 2 rookies the whole time. And one of them was Connor brown.
If marner was a Matthews talent his line would have been the first line. I like Marner but he’s not Matthews.
An offseason stretches from when a team's season ends to when the next one begins. That's why it's called an offseason. You can't equate signings in two different offseasons using different
Marner was never put on the top line.
Wasn’t Matthews the first overall pick? Isn’t he supposed to be elevating his linemates? Like every other #1 center before him.
Why were Crosby, McDavid and Tavares able to make their linemates so much money?
Hell even a guy like Eric Staal propped up many wingers and got them paid.
IIRC Marner played his best playoff hockey with Martin. Maybe he needs a big brother/protector type looking after him, he hasn't been the same since Martin left.This is not true. The NHL calendar year
??? He did. Look at Connor brown.
The point is and has been that Auston Matthews is the leafs best player.
Marner was not on the “top line” in his ELC because he wasn’t on Matthews line.
No matter who Auston was with. That was the top line. If Matt Martin was there he would be getting a promotion.
When Marner played with Martin it was a demotion.
Not sure what you’re saying here???
Rantanen is nothing?
This is not true. The NHL calendar year is from July 1-June 30.
The offseason has no bearing on contracts. Drai signed in the 2024-2025 season. So would Marner. It would be the same in all contract law and the CBA.
You are still a part of the team and under contract in the offseason. It’s the exact same.
And in your world. The minimum the cap would go up was 2.5. So comparing Drai to the 88.5 cap is wrong. Even In your logic.
He was put on the leafs top line forever.
He was not put on the top line, because tht was Matthews line.
??? He did. Look at Connor brown.
The point is and has been that Auston Matthews is the leafs best player.
Marner was not on the “top line” in his ELC because he wasn’t on Matthews line.
No matter who Auston was with. That was the top line. If Matt Martin was there he would be getting a promotion.
When Marner played with Martin it was a demotion.
Seemed all a negotiating tactic. Never should have been made public though.Oh, is Rantanen with the Leafs now? I missed that.
No, Treliving tipped his hand that they would consider moving on from an unsigned Marner for a signed Rantenan but with the full NMC he is giving that away with the possibility of souring things and ending up with nothing.
This isn’t super complicated. It was not a smart move.