People have been saying all kinds of whacky things.I guess that’s why the poster stated sure he wants to stay if we pay the most.
Is he a good teammate? It sounds like most of the dressing room is tired of him.
They tried to trade him.
Sure they are tired of him. Excessive greed. Who starts a borderline fake foundation to slip taxes and employs all the family members. Why not build a church on your property to save on property taxes. Sell unlicensed Leafs Marner merchandise, why not. Anyone who knows this back story and the media leaks and stuff like that are rolling their eyes. Flipping pucks over the boards, throwing gloves and doing lame little footwork in practice. Gotta be last one off over Crosby too, don't forget that.
It's endless, he is a a total weasel and needs to go.
I did forget that, ok cross the Pens off my list I say he goes to the Isles. We all know it has to go that way in this whacky simulation we live in. LolSure they are tired of him. Excessive greed. Who starts a borderline fake foundation to slip taxes and employs all the family members. Why not build a church on your property to save on property taxes. Sell unlicensed Leafs Marner merchandise, why not. Anyone who knows this back story and the media leaks and stuff like that are rolling their eyes. Flipping pucks over the boards, throwing gloves and doing lame little footwork in practice. Gotta be last one off over Crosby too, don't forget that.
It's endless, he is a a total weasel and needs to go.
For those that really want him gone, the biggest haters, it won't be tears.
If anything, the "tears" would be for how Treliving let him walk for nothing when he could've moved him before his NTC kicked in.
At the very least, gotten a commitment that the negotiations would start last Summer instead of letting Marner's camp (allegedly) dictate that nothing would happen until this season is over.
Marner was one of the best prospects and young players in cap era history. He should have been in the top six, getting a lot of PP time, and minutes with the team's other best players, like pretty much everybody else in the same situation throughout cap era history.
Marner was allowed to play with a 30 goal 2nd overall winger and the leafs top centre
He was given first team pp time.
Pretty much everyone else do not get to play with previous all stars and on the top unit. Thats a lie.
Matthews was PP2 and half the time was playing with Hyman and brown as a rookie.
Marner got sheltered scoring minutes. He got a great intro into the league. Pretty much everyone else doesn’t get that. Matthews didn’t.
Early projections are not guarantees, and even relative to the 92.4m speculation, Draisaitl would still be in the 15-16% range.
There is a slight difference in maximum term potential, but not in cap information, representative sample, or risk, like there is signing a year early. Your attempts to equate signing a year early and a day early are pretty disingenuous.
Neither of those are ridiculous at all.
There is no evidence that Marner was unwilling to talk last offseason. In fact, there have been constant "reports" of negotiations and "reports" of numbers throughout. So whatever "reports" you think you're referring to, they contradict each other.
I'm interested in how the Oilers are going to fit him in?
They can make it work, just have to take care of the Nurse contract.
Well if he refused a trade there, why would he sign there a couple of months later. Pathetic he couldn’t read the tea leaves and just move on. Carolina has just as small of a shot going deep in the playoffs as we do. Giving up the 8 year deal option as well, a pathetic decision.
They weren't the top line.If jvr bozak were the top line
Yes all of our stars had abnormally low PP time because we were a low PP team in a low PP era and despite that, Babcock had the bright idea to split our best players apart from each other on equal units. Nylander at least had Matthews.Him and nylander were identical in pp time
Marner spent some time on the 2nd line, some time on the 3rd line, and a bit of time on the 4th line.why do you think he was on the third line
16 minutes a night is good for your average everyday rookie. 16 minutes a night is not good for an elite young player performing like he was.He wasn’t getting 20 minutes a night but plus 16 avg for each season is great for a rookie
JVR was a 50-60 point winger, and Bozak was our 3rd best center. He split the team's already low PP time, and didn't play with the team's best players in any game state. Historically, that's not normal for how Marner was performing. Throw in how Babcock was treating him off the ice, and the upcoming opportunity he had in his 3rd year, and it's very understandable why he wouldn't have been jumping to sign early back then.Marner was allowed to play with a 30 goal 2nd overall winger and the leafs top centre
He was given first team pp time. Pretty much everyone else do not get to play with previous all stars and on the top unit.
Sure they are tired of him. Excessive greed. Who starts a borderline fake foundation to slip taxes and employs all the family members. Why not build a church on your property to save on property taxes. Sell unlicensed Leafs Marner merchandise, why not. Anyone who knows this back story and the media leaks and stuff like that are rolling their eyes. Flipping pucks over the boards, throwing gloves and doing lame little footwork in practice. Gotta be last one off over Crosby too, don't forget that.
It's endless, he is a a total weasel and needs to go.
Marner is a weasel but Matthews the guy who’s getting max AAV on the shortest term is Jesus Christ reincarnated!! Gotcha LOL, what a joke.
Matthews is the worst Captain ever. They should take that C away from him and give it to Carlton.
No disrespect, I don't know you but I found your wording really funny.Marner was allowed to play with a 30 goal 2nd overall winger and the leafs top centre
He was given first team pp time.
Pretty much everyone else do not get to play with previous all stars and on the top unit. Thats a lie.
Matthews was PP2 and half the time was playing with Hyman and brown as a rookie.
Marner got sheltered scoring minutes. He got a great intro into the league. Pretty much everyone else doesn’t get that. Matthews didn’t.
The right wingers for Toronto those years were Marner, Nylander, Komarov, Brown, and Kapanen.View attachment 994138
He wasn’t getting 20 minutes a night but plus 16 avg for each season is great for a rookie
Mathews won the Calder scored 40 and only had a toi avg of 17:38
You're the one misunderstanding. 5% was the maximum without further negotiation, not the minimum. The minimum was 2.5%.This is your lack of understanding of the new MOU that governed the cba after Covid. I would agree with you pre pandemic. Heck Matthews signed when all the projections were 83.5-86.5 and then for the first time teams didn’t use the escalator at all. But this was agreed to. The league mandated that the cap went up 5% maximum per year with the option to go up more but that was the set minimum.
I think he'll land somewhere between 13.4m and 14.3m.Again what is Marners fair range on a 95.5 cap?
They weren't the top line.
Yes all of our stars had abnormally low PP time because we were a low PP team in a low PP era and despite that, Babcock had the bright idea to split our best players apart from each other on equal units. Nylander at least had Matthews.
Marner spent some time on the 2nd line, some time on the 3rd line, and a bit of time on the 4th line.
16 minutes a night is good for your average everyday rookie. 16 minutes a night is not good for an elite young player performing like he was.
JVR was a 50-60 point winger, and Bozak was our 3rd best center. He split the team's already low PP time, and didn't play with the team's best players in any game state. Historically, that's not normal for how Marner was performing. Throw in how Babcock was treating him off the ice, and the upcoming opportunity he had in his 3rd year, and it's very understandable why he wouldn't have been jumping to sign early back then.
You gotta understand some of these guys will blatantly lie or have blind admiration get in the way of the truth and realityThe right wingers for Toronto those years were Marner, Nylander, Komarov, Brown, and Kapanen.
Marner led them all in total TOI, ESTOI, PPTOI, and in all three categories per game too.
The only thing he didn't lead in was PK, where Komarov and Brown did the bulk. (Our PK was top ten those two years.)
Despite dekes usual twisting, Marner was the top RW on the team.
Not true it was nylander and hyman in year one but regardless they were still 2 rookies Connor brown played with komo and kadriJVR bozak kessel was the top line for years.
You might not like it. But it’s true. Unless superstar Marner wasn’t even kessel.
Many players don’t get the version of the top line and 2 1000 game vets and PP1 time.
Matthews got saddled with 2 rookies the whole time. And one of them was Connor brown.
If marner was a Matthews talent his line would have been the first line. I like Marner but he’s not Matthews.
You're the one misunderstanding. 5% was the maximum without further negotiation, not the minimum. The minimum was 2.5%.
I think he'll land somewhere between 13.4m and 14.3m.
Not true it was nylander and hyman in year one but regardless they were still 2 rookies Connor brown played with komo and kadri
They were the top line of a basement team in their primes, but were not the top line on any team Marner was a part of. You might not like it. But it's true.JVR bozak kessel was the top line for years. You might not like it. But it’s true.
Matthews also getting garbage treatment doesn't change Marner's garbage treatment, and Matthews at least had Nylander for the majority of those two years.Matthews got saddled with 2 rookies the whole time. And one of them was Connor brown.
Nothing was established at that point.This was all established last summer, prior to draistl