Mitch Marner, Yet Again
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People have been saying all kinds of whacky things.
Sure they are tired of him. Excessive greed. Who starts a borderline fake foundation to slip taxes and employs all the family members. Why not build a church on your property to save on property taxes. Sell unlicensed Leafs Marner merchandise, why not. Anyone who knows this back story and the media leaks and stuff like that are rolling their eyes. Flipping pucks over the boards, throwing gloves and doing lame little footwork in practice. Gotta be last one off over Crosby too, don't forget that.
It's endless, he is a a total weasel and needs to go.
There is no evidence that his teammates are tired of him.
It would be kind of hilarious if he actually went to Carolina after refusing to be traded
I did forget that, ok cross the Pens off my list I say he goes to the Isles. We all know it has to go that way in this whacky simulation we live in. Lol
That was on shanny. He had already told the players they were staying. Tre knew he was getting them as part of the job.
Marner was allowed to play with a 30 goal 2nd overall winger and the leafs top centre
He was given first team pp time.
Pretty much everyone else do not get to play with previous all stars and on the top unit. Thats a lie.
Matthews was PP2 and half the time was playing with Hyman and brown as a rookie.
Marner got sheltered scoring minutes. He got a great intro into the league. Pretty much everyone else doesn’t get that. Matthews didn’t.
And he complained that what he did get wasn't good enough eventually. Marner Matthews was from complaints and so off Nylander goes, fast as lightning to play with slow as molasses JT.
This is your lack of understanding of the new MOU that governed the cba after Covid. I would agree with you pre pandemic. Heck Matthews signed when all the projections were 83.5-86.5 and then for the first time teams didn’t use the escalator at all. But this was agreed to.
The league mandated that the cap went up 5% maximum per year with the option to go up more but that was the set minimum.
the link to 50/50 HRR would have already had the cap up way past that and the teams only had like 200 million to pay back by the summer.
It was clear that it was paid off this year and the cap itself should be over 100. They have smoothed it out.
The cap% at 92.9 would have been 15% not 15.9.
Again what is Marners fair range on a 95.5 cap?
They can fit him in, with just moving Kane and bridging Bouchard, which I think is what will happen.
No one is taking on the Nurse contract without series retention.
Meh I’m sorry he doesn’t owe the team that. Look at what Colorado did to Rantanen. I don’t know why fans expect players to do what’s in the best interest of the team when the team will f*** the players the first chance they get.
Even as a big leafs fan, I don’t put that on Marner. Asking a guy to waive a few hours before the deadline with no lead up, is dumb, have no issues with him saying no.
They weren't the top line.
Yes all of our stars had abnormally low PP time because we were a low PP team in a low PP era and despite that, Babcock had the bright idea to split our best players apart from each other on equal units. Nylander at least had Matthews.
Marner spent some time on the 2nd line, some time on the 3rd line, and a bit of time on the 4th line.
16 minutes a night is good for your average everyday rookie. 16 minutes a night is not good for an elite young player performing like he was.
JVR was a 50-60 point winger, and Bozak was our 3rd best center. He split the team's already low PP time, and didn't play with the team's best players in any game state. Historically, that's not normal for how Marner was performing. Throw in how Babcock was treating him off the ice, and the upcoming opportunity he had in his 3rd year, and it's very understandable why he wouldn't have been jumping to sign early back then.
Marner is a weasel but Matthews the guy who’s getting max AAV on the shortest term is Jesus Christ reincarnated!! Gotcha LOL, what a joke.
Matthews is the worst Captain ever. They should take that C away from him and give it to Carlton. Carlton will at least dance and shake his furry butt at opposing teams and get under their skin some.
ive said it a few times, but i do put a lot of this on Matthews. He's the leader, if he honestly said, you know guys ima take a little less and really commit to the team, i think the rest of the guys follow. Every decision Matthews has made in his career has been driven by money. He went to go play in Switzerland in his u18 year to maximize his earnings instead of with Everett or a college team. (Which is smart as hell btw)
No disrespect, I don't know you but I found your wording really funny.
You could have just as easily said:
Marner was allowed to play with two 50 point career second liners and Matthews was PP2 and half the time was playing with future 54 goal scorer Hyman.
If playing with garbage like JVR and Bozak is some privilege then surely playing with the future great Hyman is too
The right wingers for Toronto those years were Marner, Nylander, Komarov, Brown, and Kapanen.
Marner led them all in total TOI, ESTOI, PPTOI, and in all three categories per game too.
The only thing he didn't lead in was PK, where Komarov and Brown did the bulk. (Our PK was top ten those two years.)
Despite dekes usual twisting, Marner was the top RW on the team.
You're the one misunderstanding. 5% was the maximum without further negotiation, not the minimum. The minimum was 2.5%.
I think he'll land somewhere between 13.4m and 14.3m.
JVR bozak kessel was the top line for years.
You might not like it. But it’s true. Unless superstar Marner wasn’t even kessel.
Many players don’t get the version of the top line and 2 1000 game vets and PP1 time.
Matthews got saddled with 2 rookies the whole time. And one of them was Connor brown.
If marner was a Matthews talent his line would have been the first line. I like Marner but he’s not Matthews.
You gotta understand some of these guys will blatantly lie or have blind admiration get in the way of the truth and reality
Not true it was nylander and hyman in year one but regardless they were still 2 rookies Connor brown played with komo and kadri
They had already beat the previous HRR to get there. It was a known fact in the summer and there were questions if the debt had Been paid off already.
The cap itself should be over 100 this year. They knew it was going to 92.5 minimum and they were negotiating to higher.
This was all established last summer, prior to draistl
Ok 13.4 to 14.3. At least you answered.
No there were many games Matthews played with Hyman and brown. I went to about 4 that year. He was with them for quite a few
They were the top line of a basement team in their primes, but were not the top line on any team Marner was a part of. You might not like it. But it's true.
Matthews also getting garbage treatment doesn't change Marner's garbage treatment, and Matthews at least had Nylander for the majority of those two years.
Nothing was established at that point.
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