If Nylander's cap % is close to $12.5, then $12 is about right for Mitch.
Ya, if you ignore their entire NHL history, play this year, playoff performances, and defensive play, I agree.
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Fixed it for you, you're welcomeDelete Marner from this team
This is all hearsay ......we have no idea what Tre was thinking or what was said. Mediots speculation isn't in most cases the truth.
Maybe he asked Marner to waive only because Rantanen (another elite player) was available for a 1 for 1 swap. Tre IMHO wasnt asking Marner to waive for draft picks and secondary players.
Or Carolina asked about Marner and the mediots decided that it was Marners fault for not waiving for the deal to go thru and in reality Tre never asked Marner to waive and said No to Carolina. I mean if he offered Minten, Cowan and two 1st rd picks initially .....dont you think maybe Tre wanted Marner and Rantanen both for the cup run and didnt want Marner to leave?
Till we actually here it from the GM's mouth or Marners camp then all this crap spewed is just hogwash. It gets the mediots clicks or they want viewers to watch them debate about it. All for the sake to cause a stir and we all know the TO mediots best work is to cause a stir. Maybe they should knock on Marners parents door and ask them.....they will stoop lower to get clicks.
Let me guess. You're using that garbage marginal tax calculator again.It's a much bigger difference.
In Dallas, he'll pay ~$4.4M in tax per year on the $12M salary.
In Toronto, he'd pay ~$6.4M.
He'd need over $14.5M, per year, in Toronto to close the gap in take home pay.
Garbage is the right way to describe it. It's like the hockey world hasn't realized that God invented tax lawyers.Let me guess. You're using that garbage marginal tax calculator again.
HUH?Matthews at age 27 is 7th all time in goals.
He is a 2 time 60’goal scorer, 3 time rocket winner, and a hart and person winner.
They aren’t the same. Marner has zero argument.
He’s better than Willy but they are in a class.
Matthews is injured. When healthy he is minimum top 3. Mack has really come on.
Wouldn’t endorsements cover that gap?It's a much bigger difference.
In Dallas, he'll pay ~$4.4M in tax per year on the $12M salary.
In Toronto, he'd pay ~$6.4M.
He'd need over $14.5M, per year, in Toronto to close the gap in take home pay.
Yeah yeah we hear it all the time. Greatest two way player of all time and best goal scorer in the league and here we are 9 years later still hoping for a playoff run that lasts more than a week and it's everyone else fault because those league min guys can't score enough.There is natural progression built into post-ELC contracts, just as there is natural regression built into mid-late 30s contracts. What you do as a teenager informs but doesn't equal what you're expected to do through your prime. It's how McDavid gets offered 17.67% for pacing 96 points. It's why players like Stutzle pace 54 points and get over 10%.
Pacing 76 points through that early age (and putting up a performance like he did in his final season) is very rare. And that per-game pace actually undervalues Marner's relative quality and impact during that time, due to being on a team that got very few PPs, in an era when league PPs were already at a low. He was one of the best performing young forwards in the entire cap era through his pre-signing period.
They knew the cap would rise, and normal cap progression is built into contracts with term, but I don't think anybody knew that we were getting jumps in the cap like this until recently, and you sign under the cap you sign under. It's not about paying him more because the cap is going to rise. It's about the same percentage resulting in a higher AAV due to the cap. As the cap continues to rise, players worse than Marner getting lower percentages will get higher AAVs than him. We didn't see it as much through this past contract because the cap abnormally stagnated through the majority of it.
But also, you can't apply future seasons to a contract. You were pointing at Mackinnon's 110+ point seasons, but he didn't have that when he signed (his career high was also, funny enough, 99 points). There are only 4 players that have paced 110+ points over the past 3 years, and only 2 signed contracts after doing so. Both Mackinnon and Draisaitl got contracts in the 15-16% range, and I doubt Marner signs for that much, even though he could probably get it if he pushed it.
When I say that "I'm not okay with just being better than a bottom feeder", it doesn't mean that I think we'd only be slightly better than a bottom feeder. It means that you talking about how much better we'd be compared to when we were a bottom feeder isn't reassuring, as that's not a comparison relevant to where this team should be. It's really simple. Losing Marner makes us worse. I don't want to get worse. I want to get better and win a cup.
We have 10 players outside of the core 4 on 2m+ contracts, and this is the highest percentage that the core 4 will ever take up. And yes, winning teams do tend to have a lot of cheap depth players, and get surplus value from efficiencies there.
It's a much bigger difference.
In Dallas, he'll pay ~$4.4M in tax per year on the $12M salary.
In Toronto, he'd pay ~$6.4M.
He'd need over $14.5M, per year, in Toronto to close the gap in take home pay.
And not taking into account the endorsements that aren’t apart of his contract should balance the “thp “Let me guess. You're using that garbage marginal tax calculator again.
Perimeter marner strikes again Matthews is injured what’s mitchys excuse refuses to go into the dirty areas it’s disgusting n I’m sure there’s people that will find an excuse for his inexcusable play yesterdayAgain, he disappeared last night. Same with Matthews. But yea, let's pay these guys 27+ million combined to disappear during the biggest games of the season. You need your best players to step up in these kinds of games but they never do.
Even former NHL goalie Carter Hutton calls Marner a known perimeter player:Perimeter marner strikes again Matthews is injured what’s mitchys excuse refuses to go into the dirty areas it’s disgusting n I’m sure there’s people that will find an excuse for his inexcusable play yesterday
Even former NHL goalie Carter Hutton calls Marner a known perimeter player:
"Mitch Marner is just a perimeter guy at all costs and teams know that"
Even former NHL goalie Carter Hutton calls Marner a known perimeter player:
"Mitch Marner is just a perimeter guy at all costs and teams know that"
It's time for a changeElbows Up Mitch !!!
You're a proud Canadian, so its It time to stand up and fight, and get off the sidelines and join the fray.
Will need you to take a hit to make a play, and go into the heavy traffic areas even if it means he might face some physical contract to make a play.
Even former NHL goalie Carter Hutton calls Marner a known perimeter player:
"Mitch Marner is just a perimeter guy at all costs and teams know that"
They should start calling him Mr. November.It just amazes me how quickly he turns tail and runs and disappears whenever the intensity gets turned up just the slightest and the forechecking gets a little bit tighter and the hits get a little bit harder and there's limited space on the ice.
He is so f****** useless in those games.