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Mitch Marner (Trade or Keep)?

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Trade or Keep Marner?

  • Trade Marner

    Votes: 420 67.5%

  • Keep Marner

    Votes: 183 29.4%

  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 19 3.1%
  • Total voters
    622
Albz said:
This fan base is toxic. Marner arguably one of the best all around forwards at young age, hitting 100points and here is people trying to trade him away lolll.
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This is the fansbase that kept wanting to trade Clark every season because he was a bust. But after Gilmour was traded here Clark was actually pretty good for 1.5 seasons. When Clark was traded they hated Sundin and cried that Clark was gone. After that they wanted to trade Gilmour because he was old. He got traded and Leaf fans cried.
Rinse and repeat
 
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Friendly reminder to trade if you must, but preserve the trade value.

This is one of the hottest trade chips in the league. Use it wisely.
 
Marner for Farabee, Laughton, 7OA.

Buy low on Farabee. His point totals are there right now but his underlying numbers are strong. He may be considered a cap dump right now. He is only 23 and should see a bump in his numbers lining up next to to Matthews or Tavares. Laughton is the Leafs 3C until he retires. 7OA is the 2C of the future to replace Tavares. This draft is loaded with C’s at the top of the draft.
 
Albz said:
This fan base is toxic. Marner arguably one of the best all around forwards at young age, hitting 100points and here is people trying to trade him away lolll.
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Do his 100 points help the Leafs win in the playoffs?
Does his selke nomination help them win in the playoffs?

Marner gave the puck away over and over throughout the playoffs. For such a skilled player, there were games vs Florida where he actually did more harm than good. Those cute behind the back passes don't work when the open ice gets taken away. Marner only has one gear and one style, and it was completely nullified by Florida.

Against a skilled, non-physical team Marner can be productive. Against a physical, tenacious team like Florida, Marner was all but useless.

Whether he's a great player or not is irrelevant at this point. Sometimes change is what's needed to get over the hump. It's pretty much a fact at this point that the Leafs aren't going to win the cup with this same core 4. Hell, if Vasi played better Toronto would been out in the 1st round. Vasi was terrible, but TB outplayed Toronto in 5 out of 6 games
 
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Panthers series gave us the perfect excuse to push Marner for Bedard (1st overall).

We should be going all in on this.

Matthews Bedard future.

Havoc said:
Friendly reminder to trade if you must, but preserve the trade value.

This is one of the hottest trade chips in the league. Use it wisely.
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We will have the no.1 package for Bedard with Marner as the cornerstone of the deal.

It's time to strike and re-brand the 2 faces of the franchise.

Matthews Marner out.

Matthews Bedard in.
 
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Americanadian said:
Marner for Farabee, Laughton, 7OA.

Buy low on Farabee. His point totals are there right now but his underlying numbers are strong. He may be considered a cap dump right now. He is only 23 and should see a bump in his numbers lining up next to to Matthews or Tavares. Laughton is the Leafs 3C until he retires. 7OA is the 2C of the future to replace Tavares. This draft is loaded with C’s at the top of the draft.
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Trade a selke finalist for those two fine specimens of defensive forwards:laugh:

Leafs couldnt win so lets pick up two defensive titans (not) who combined can't match Marners points offensively.

Good god...is this a parody account?
If you are serious, at least grab a dman we could use.
 
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Shooter2x said:
Panthers series gave us the perfect excuse to push Marner for Bedard (1st overall).

We should be going all in on this.

Matthews Bedard future.


We will have the no.1 package for Bedard with Marner as the cornerstone of the deal.

It's time to strike and re-brand the 2 faces of the franchise.

Matthews Marner out.

Matthews Bedard in.
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Uh huh. And Chicago is ready to run with Marner on that team in his prime.
Will be Dubas' fault if this deal doesn't go through because Chicago would be all over it :laugh:

Trapper said:
I would but the Sens wouldn’t.
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The Sens would do it in a second and wouldn't wear a condom.
 
Notsince67 said:
Trade a selke finalist for those two fine specimens of defensive forwards:laugh:

Leafs couldnt win so lets pick up two defensive titans (not) who combined can't match Marners points offensively.

Good god...is this a parody account?
If you are serious, at least grab a dman we could use.
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Are you ignoring the 7OA?
 
Shooter2x said:
Panthers series gave us the perfect excuse to push Marner for Bedard (1st overall).

We should be going all in on this.

Matthews Bedard future.


We will have the no.1 package for Bedard with Marner as the cornerstone of the deal.

It's time to strike and re-brand the 2 faces of the franchise.

Matthews Marner out.

Matthews Bedard in.
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Chicago's not trading a cost controlled number 1 for anyone .
 
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Of course it all matters what is out there for him.

If you decide you NEED to change the core, you need 2 of the big 4 gone. You can't just trade one guy and expect the remaining 3 to change their stripes as far as culture. Want to change culture? 2 guys are gone.

If, IF, you were to get good deals for all 3 guys you shop (assuming Tavares will not be one of them), I'd keep Nylander and shop/trade Marner and Matthews. AGAIN, that is under the assumption you get multiple picks back, clear out a lot of cap space, and get 2-4 legit NHL guys back, at least 2 of those guys potential all-star level players).

Can you get that kind of a return? I think so. If you can get it, I think you consider it. If that return is not out there, then you don't do it.
 
Americanadian said:
It’ll help them be cup competitive moving forward. It’s not like they’re cup competitive with Marner.
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It will help them? Are you certain about that.
7th OA draft picks include
Proverov
Nurse
Skinner
Kadri
Lupul

So this team is better with 2 plugs + one of these guys not in their prime.
Interesting
 
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Notsince67 said:
It will help them? Are you certain about that.
7th OA draft picks include
Proverov
Nurse
Skinner
Kadri
Lupul

So this team is better with 2 plugs + one of these guys not in their prime.
Interesting
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Good call - the 7OA is guaranteed to be one of those players. I didn’t factor that into my thought process.

Cozens, Hughes, Keller don’t look too bad.
 
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ZEBROA said:
Maby not use the most useless player stat when trying to defend your stance.

The fact that there is fans that think Nylander had a better playoff in round 2 is a big failure, for both Matthews and Marner. Not even the most bias fan should be able to put Nylander before Marner or Matthews. That is how good they should be. They were not near that good. They are and should be held at a much higher standard then Nylander. Had they done there part to the fullest we would have won every game round 2. Nylander played closer to his best then they did. Thats all.

Tavares should be traded. Put him on forth line until he gives up and ask for a trade.
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A negative plus minus on a guy not deployed in defensive situations such as dzone starts is awful. There is the context
 
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Notsince67 said:
A negative plus minus on a guy not deployed in defensive situations such as dzone starts is awful. There is the context
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Unless he scores on leafs himself he cant be blamed for every goal against. Him and the line and D he play with can. Not a great individual stat in such few games. Dont think playing most with Tavares help, that line becomes to long. To far apart. He could been better and also smarter used.

Matthews need to score in round 2. Maby Marner should have shoot more(had realy good shot% in the regular season) when things didnt work out for Matthews. But he should not be expected to do everything.

Nylander needed to be better but the weight is on Matthews and Marners shoulders. They are the go to guys.

The only thing i dont like about Marner is the mental side. Ownership etc. But i absolutely dont think he should be traded. No way.
 
Trapper said:
A healthy Matthews is the only one I bother to keep.
I could build a Seattle/Vegas team with just Matthews and probably have more playoff success than right now.
2 goalie system and a solid D with hard working forwards and Matthews.
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I like this idea a lot. I would only add that assuming that the rest of the team fits that mold, I'd keep Nylander as well. Or McDavid. ;)
 
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Gary Nylund said:
I like this idea a lot. I would only add that assuming that the rest of the team fits that mold, I'd keep Nylander as well. Or McDavid. ;)
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I have no problem keeping Nylander.
We need different players around Matthews which is evident by 7 years of spinning our wheels.
Seems to be working for Eichel.
It’s the right team.
Remember, Eichel and Reinhart were both in the same team in Buffalo. How come they couldn’t get anywhere before but now are both in the 3rd round?
Build from the net out. Woll/Samsonov, hard to play against upgraded D.
Hard working forwards and 2 stars (Matthews/Nylander).
 
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