Mitch Marner (post playoffs) discussion thread continued...
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WillTheThrill
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Subway Schenn
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Seems like just a matter of time before he's on his way to another team.... Very disappointed in Mitch, no heart in his game.. I guess money changes everything.
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Atomos2
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He could've been a Leaf that was all time adored. Poster boy GTA boy who was a Leaf fan growing up and drafted by the LEafs. He could have been a fan favourite. But greed, jealousy, Paul Marner, whatever you call it, got in the way and he decided to cripple the team both capwise and Stanley Cup opportunity-wise. Now he's the most hated and rightfully so.
TheGreatOne11
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Top 5 in points this season should get us a kings ransom if we do decide to go the trade route, plus the money is less than the cap hit and small market teams absolutely adore such things.
Im not entirely convinced he can't make it work in the playoffs, he's still young, i mean i have his jersey i love the dude so much, but after a certain amount of time you have to look yourself in the mirror and accept him for who he is, maybe he doesn't have that extra gear and killer instinct like Nylander come post season.
Its just, thata too many first round exits, i feel like someone is gone, and if someone is, its Mitch, Nylander played like a man possessed plus that contract is a sweet one, you cant trade him, Matthews can't go because goals are the most important hardest to get thing in hockey.
Tavares is our captain and has nothing to do with this loss so he's fine.
I just believe if we take this seriously and make a big change Marner is the odd man out, whether i want him gone or not is another question, but the discussion is justified, he has really brought nothing when it matters most.
But knowing the leafs, they probably stay the course for one more year, and then blow it up trading Marner.
Im not entirely convinced he can't make it work in the playoffs, he's still young, i mean i have his jersey i love the dude so much, but after a certain amount of time you have to look yourself in the mirror and accept him for who he is, maybe he doesn't have that extra gear and killer instinct like Nylander come post season.
Its just, thata too many first round exits, i feel like someone is gone, and if someone is, its Mitch, Nylander played like a man possessed plus that contract is a sweet one, you cant trade him, Matthews can't go because goals are the most important hardest to get thing in hockey.
Tavares is our captain and has nothing to do with this loss so he's fine.
I just believe if we take this seriously and make a big change Marner is the odd man out, whether i want him gone or not is another question, but the discussion is justified, he has really brought nothing when it matters most.
But knowing the leafs, they probably stay the course for one more year, and then blow it up trading Marner.
Peasy
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Hes clearly not a team player. Mitch Marner bets on Mitch Marner. And it has failed horribly so far. The few times that Nylander was actually on the top PP AND had the puck on the half wall instead of Marner the PP looked so much better and more lively. Mitch's ego doesnt want to allow that to happen though.
Last year I went on tirades on this man and instead of feeling validated I feel nothing. He is dreadful any time physicality is required. I can honestly say he is my least favorite Toronto Maple Leaf to ever wear the uniform. He is a mental midget with the physique of a pre-puberty pep boy. I don't care about the team anymore but I hope he never wins anything. He acted like a home town kid and drained them for every $ he could squeeze, only to perform the way he did in back to back series. Regular season meant nothing this year to me. He and Nylander HAD to step up in the playoffs. The guy who did step up was KILLED by the media, while Marner did the same thing and was instantly PAID... Funny, only Nylander was killed by the media and PORTRAYED as a money grabbing jerk. Marner did the same thing for more money and everyone adores him. Look at their contract differences. Nylander is paid way less but actually has the body of a hockey player. Marner looks like an ill Fortnite gamer. I don't think I can ever be a fan again but for those who are loyal and good people, I hope they trade his cancer so you guys can have players that you can be proud of and root for. Not this little weasel. He was so awful all series yet continued to make selfish dangles and turn the back over. The penalties were just illustrations of how weak he is tbh.
and yeah he gets paid 11 million dollars so if this is too much for hf boards than I understand but it's how I feel and this forum is meant for us getting our thoughts out.
and yeah he gets paid 11 million dollars so if this is too much for hf boards than I understand but it's how I feel and this forum is meant for us getting our thoughts out.
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Mats13
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Backs up what Siegel said about the PP a couple of days ago.
Nylander does whatever is best for the team.
Marner does whatever is best for his ego.
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Marner for one of the Tkachuk brothers. At least they will give their left nut for the team and play until they can't stand anymore.
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Not My Tempo
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I was angry last night, but reading this…I legit don’t think I can cheer for this team as long as Marner is part of it. Dude doesn’t give one iota of shit about the team.
Mentat
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10 ply.
He´s a magician alright. Come PO time, he vanishes into thin air.
He´s got talent, no one denies it. But he´s nowhere to be found when we need him most. With the amount of AAV he´s guzzling, trade him and get someone that will rise up to the occasion.
He´s a magician alright. Come PO time, he vanishes into thin air.
He´s got talent, no one denies it. But he´s nowhere to be found when we need him most. With the amount of AAV he´s guzzling, trade him and get someone that will rise up to the occasion.
I don't think he needs to change anything about his game. Just keep on trying to dangle through four guys at the opposing blueline and crash the net only to slowly fire a pathetically weak wrister off a shinpad and wide.
1specter
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Between this and Siegel's cryptic tweet from yesterday, this is deeply concerning. I think it's quite evident that he must be moved for team culture reasons, because he clearly has an ego and feels entitled to be playing a certain way or in certain situations. Then when you bring in all the noise with his toxic entourage and family, it's obvious that you can't move forward with someone like this because there will be no accountability.
He absolutely needs to be traded ASAP.
This is such a stupid f***ing take. William and spezza were amazing. Brodie was fantastic. Marner was absolutely shit.
Hey fans,
Mitch marner here. Just wanted to say sorry for not starting on time last night, but I don’t get paid for the playoffs so it’s hard to justify starting on time. But I promise, cross my heart and hope to die, that next game I’ll definitely be starting on time as my gargantuan paycheques will start again.
now I’m off to an exotic destination to count my millions and dip my toes in the ocean.
your favourite leaf
Mitchie.
Mitch marner here. Just wanted to say sorry for not starting on time last night, but I don’t get paid for the playoffs so it’s hard to justify starting on time. But I promise, cross my heart and hope to die, that next game I’ll definitely be starting on time as my gargantuan paycheques will start again.
now I’m off to an exotic destination to count my millions and dip my toes in the ocean.
your favourite leaf
Mitchie.
Peasy
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Of course they wouldn't have went far. Its hard too when your 11m winger has 0 goals in his last 18 playoff games.
The above mentioned players played well overall yes.
The team as a whole played like shit. No signs of a playoff winner
Leafy Undergrowth
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He'll be a fine player when he decides to grow up and take his $11 million job seriously. But neither he himself, nor this coach, nor multiple playoff humiliations have been able to get through to him. Maybe a trade will do it, but it's really gonna suck if that's what does it.
Yeah the team played like shit cus individual players like marner ( who made 16 million dollars) played like the p***y he is.
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The problem is not Marner. The problem is the team. It's not built for the playoffs and it's cap is poorly distributed. I posted this in a Kane vs Marner thread.
TLDR;
Great players often don't do so well on bad teams particularly in the playoffs. And YES, this is a bad team because playoff hockey is significantly different.
In their first 5 seasons here are the numbers:
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In playoff seasons where their team played at most 9 games.
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Yes. these are Kanes worst 5 years in the playoffs but they are also Marners worst and just because their team didn't do well it's probably not entirely their fault. This is how they performed on bad teams in the playoffs.
TLDR;
Great players often don't do so well on bad teams particularly in the playoffs. And YES, this is a bad team because playoff hockey is significantly different.
In their first 5 seasons here are the numbers:
| Season | Age | Goals | Assists | Points | |||||
| Marner | Kane | Marner | Kane | Marner | Kane | Marner | Kane | Marner | Kane |
| 2016-17 | 2007-08 | 19 | 19 | 0.25 | 0.26 | 0.55 | 0.62 | 0.79 | 0.88 |
| 2017-18 | 2008-09 | 20 | 20 | 0.27 | 0.31 | 0.57 | 0.56 | 0.84 | 0.88 |
| 2018-19 | 2009-10 | 21 | 21 | 0.32 | 0.37 | 0.83 | 0.71 | 1.15 | 1.07 |
| 2019-20 | 2010-11 | 22 | 22 | 0.27 | 0.37 | 0.86 | 0.63 | 1.14 | 1.00 |
| 2020-21 | 2011-12 | 23 | 23 | 0.36 | 0.28 | 0.85 | 0.52 | 1.22 | 0.80 |
In playoff seasons where their team played at most 9 games.
| GP | G | A | P | |
| Marner | 32 | 5 | 20 | 25 |
| Kane | 33 | 5 | 23 | 28 |
Yes. these are Kanes worst 5 years in the playoffs but they are also Marners worst and just because their team didn't do well it's probably not entirely their fault. This is how they performed on bad teams in the playoffs.
dubplatepressure
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Campbell finished the series with a better save percentage than Carey Price. And we still lost.
I don’t disagree.
Why sell him at an all time low? Who would take him knowing he’s owed 17 mill?
If we trade him, we have to ensure we get better as we’re a competitive team. I don’t think we would get better while losing Marner. Teams won’t exactly pay full value and I dunno how many owners would even sign off on a Marner trade knowing the money owed to him.
I am not happy at all. I think he’s over paid, just like Tavares was a stupid signing and the team is overall very weak minded and physically weak.
This mess has been made and the course has been set
WTFMAN99
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Imagine telling this to Trotz or Torts, he wouldn't be on the PP.
Also does Keefe not have a pair or something?
Marner can go now.
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