Player Discussion Mitch Marner Part Infinity

[Trapper]

Good riddance. Hopefully he takes some of his "fans" with him.

Looks like there will be about 12 of us on this board next season.

 

[Mess]

I’m confident we’ll hear why Marner’s feelings were hurt again this time and I’m confident it’ll add up to something trivial.

Treliving tried to trade him to Vegas in a 3-way deal, when Vegas and Colorado couldn't come to terms ..

Then he tried to trade him for Rantanen and even asked him to waive his full NMC to try and get rid of him.

Then Treliving claimed he wanted to change the DNA of the Core 4 with Auston and Willy locked up long term.

I wonder at what point Marner got the hint that Leafs Organization no longer wanted him and was prepared to move forward without him?

This time Treliving is holding all the cards in a full NMC as No Marner Contract coming, and now its Brad that is not wavering on his opinion and position.

Marner's fragile feelings no doubt were bruised, now don't let the door hit you on the way out or your going to feel even worse. Let the UFA coddling begin, Oops I'm mean bidding begin.

 

[LaPlante94]

Letting a 100pt player walk for nothing should be a fireable offense, cya Tre

Don't want that to happen then the NHL will need to get rid of NMC which won't happen. If you don't want to give those to players they will sign somewhere else that will.

 

[shaner8989]

Marner was a treat to watch on a November night against Columbus. Really fun player

Playoff time he’s an absolute disgrace. Year after year I was waiting for him to change. Nope. Never gonna happen.

Bye Mitch

 

[Leafs4Life77]

Probably an unpopular opinion, but the Tavares signing was the precursor to all these assholes refusing to take a penny less (Matthews included, even with his shorter deal). I was so excited when we signed 91, but as soon as that deal was signed, the other three used it as a measuring stick for their value.

Nylander held out a few months later on his first extension, then came the Marner / Matthews extensions. None of them did anything for the team, and that includes 34. It was all about maximizing dollars, not winning championships. And this FO kept allowing the agents to bend them over, time and time again, and give out NMCs to everyone.

And here we are.

We trusted a ROOKIE GM to sign the most important deals in franchise history. We had ALL the leverage as they were all RFAs.

Dubas got bent over and gave way too much AAV for too little term. Those contracts were outrageous at the time and look worse with hindsight. Yes he and us got screwed by COVID and the flat cap but that's the risk you take when you hand out unprecedented contracts.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Letting a 100pt player walk for nothing should be a fireable offense, cya Tre

I don't think Treliving was getting the job if he planned to trade Marner.

Shanny had already made up his mind and likely got rid of Dubas for this reason too. The guy basically died on this hill and lost his job.

 

[Just Rude]

Simple math tells you one of Nylander, Marner or Knies with a new deal wouldn’t be here next year. The $$$ just wouldn’t work. I’m glad it’s not Knies.

Marner is the logical choice. I just wish we got a top prospect and a 1st in return.

Whether you want to blame Tre, Dubas or Shanahan, it is a massive f***up by this organization.

 

[Gabriel426]

I’m confident we’ll hear why Marner’s feelings were hurt again this time and I’m confident it’ll add up to something trivial.

We all know he will have a love letter/video to fans when he leaves. And some of us here will dissect every words and argue over it non stop, lol.

 

[Kazparov]

How many of us are going to get banned on his next teams HFboards for constantly shit talking him there?

 

[Trapper]

We trusted a ROOKIE GM to sign the most important deals in franchise history. We had ALL the leverage as they were all RFAs.

Dubas got bent over and gave way too much AAV for too little term. Those contracts were outrageous at the time and look worse with hindsight. Yes he and us got screwed by COVID and the flat cap but that's the risk you take when you hand out unprecedented contracts.

Didn’t even sign these guys to 8 years on the overpayments. Just as you think you’re gaining cap traction, they get paid even more on the next deal. Maybe at the end of the day though, we’re lucky they didn’t sign for 8.

 

[Stephen]

We all know he will have a love letter/video to fans when he leaves. And some of us here will dissect every words and argue over it non stop, lol.

Would have been easier for all if he was just a loyal dude and good in the playoffs…

 

[centipede2233]

Treliving tried to trade him to Vegas in a 3-way deal, when Vegas and Colorado couldn't come to terms ..

Then he tried to trade him for Rantanen and even asked him to waive his full NMC to try and get rid of him.

Then Treliving claimed he wanted to change the DNA of the Core 4 with Auston and Willy locked up long term.

I wonder at what point Marner got the hint that Leafs Organization no longer wanted him and was prepared to move forward with him?

This time Treliving is holding all the cards in a full NMC as No Marner Contract coming, and now its Brad that is not wavering on his opinion and position.

Marner's fragile feelings no doubt were bruised, now don't let the door hit you on the way out or your going to feel even worse. Let the UFA coddling begin, Oops I'm mean bidding begin.

Under shanahan, it was always a day late and a dollar short, and the reason why he lost his job. He never pivoted, he stuck with the core 4 when he could have changed the dynamic of the team, but he let NMC’s kick in and now see an asset walk out the door for nothing. What a horrendous president. Moron

 

[centipede2233]

Didn’t even sign these guys to 8 years on the overpayments. Just as you think you’re gaining cap traction, they get paid even more on the next deal. Maybe at the end of the day though, we’re lucky they didn’t sign for 8.

Rumohr was marner was willing to sign 8.5x8 but dubas having zero foresight wanted to see marner produce with JT…really great cap management there dubes

 

[Nineteen67]

Yup seems official now.

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Amid tons of speculation on the future of Mitch Marner, an insider is saying both he and the Toronto Maple Leafs have already decided what's going to happen over the summer.

According to Andy Strickland of the Cam and Strick podcast, the Marner era in Toronto is over. Strickland states he can confirm that Marner won't be back with the Maple Leafs, and both parties are already aware of it.

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I think logically most of us new this was going to be the outcome.. Many Marner fans wanted him re-signed before the playoffs began in hopes his regular season would save him... But another playoff flame out was inevitable and when Treliving claimed he wanted to change the DNA we all knew he was referring to Marner who is simply "TOO DAINTY" (referring to things that are physically small and fragile), overly delicate and his fussy behavior no longer fit the hard hitting, elbows up, physical play the Leafs want to emulate.

Leafs no longer want to take the Butter Knife into a Gun Fight come playoff time.

That’s the best news the Leafs have had in 20 years.

 

[HarryLime]

Mitch marner is an absolute ******

 

[centipede2233]

We trusted a ROOKIE GM to sign the most important deals in franchise history. We had ALL the leverage as they were all RFAs.

Dubas got bent over and gave way too much AAV for too little term. Those contracts were outrageous at the time and look worse with hindsight. Yes he and us got screwed by COVID and the flat cap but that's the risk you take when you hand out unprecedented contracts.

Also, the NMC’s clauses hadn’t kicked in yet. They still could have traded marner post Montreal series, but shanahan at the helm said “press on core 4!!!”

 

[centipede2233]

Simple math tells you one of Nylander, Marner or Knies with a new deal wouldn’t be here next year. The $$$ just wouldn’t work. I’m glad it’s not Knies.

Marner is the logical choice. I just wish we got a top prospect and a 1st in return.

Whether you want to blame Tre, Dubas or Shanahan, it is a massive f***up by this organization.

The buck stops at shanahan, he is most cuplable

 

[MajorLeaf]

Letting a 100pt player walk for nothing should be a fireable offense, cya Tre

In Treliving defence he did try to trade Marner, but got blocked by the NTC given out by Shanahan/Dubas previously.

He couldn’t trade Marner when he first became GM as Shanahan told the core 4 they weren’t going anywhere, so his hands were tied.

The Leafs can finally move on from one core piece of this mess and allocate the cap space for other players now.

 

[Racer88]

Good riddance if true. His dream of being a leaf turns to dust through nobody else’s fault since his own

 

[centipede2233]

The chances of a guy with his cap hit and his performance winning a Cup is pretty low. I think he knows it and has decided to pursue the money for his family. That’s fine and it’s a noble thing to do.

The only way marner is winning a cup if a) his team ltir’s him second half of season and the team uses his cap space for a cup run, or b) marner is in the twilight of his career making league min.

 

[Mess]

Didn’t even sign these guys to 8 years on the overpayments. Just as you think you’re gaining cap traction, they get paid even more on the next deal. Maybe at the end of the day though, we’re lucky they didn’t sign for 8.

With Marner's greed and Dubas own stupidity Leaf nation fans finally caught a break.

The reason the contract had to be 8 years is the first 4 years were RFA (cost controllable years) and only the last 2 should have been expensive UFA rate and bought from the player.

Dubas signed UFA Tavares to the largest UFA contract at its time at 7 years $11 mil making JT the 5th highest paid player in the game. Then he gave Marner $10.9 mil (only $100k less) for RFA years X 4, and gave back 2 UFA years to Mitch so he could re-up again today.

Marner should have been signed to the Draisaitl deal ( 8 years @ $8.5 mil) then he would still be under contract for 2 more years if not for Marner's own greed. Mitch went right from his entry level to 3rd UFA contract rates and skipped his entire 2nd bridge RFA contract with Toronto.

Fans that understand the CBA and players contracts are based on comparables as RFA's to other NHL players of which there is simply no explanation for Marner's current deal, other than a naive Greenhorn GM getting played by smart and ruthless player agents.

The only way out now for Toronto is to cut him loose.

 

[Nineteen67]

Letting a 100pt player walk for nothing should be a fireable offense, cya Tre

Singing him would also be a fireable offense….he’s likely in his last yr as an NHL GM so will he close his eyes and hopes he hits a grand slam? With limited assets to trade, no way he pulls the trigger on a Matthews trade, I think he punts and accepts his fate in hopes of moving up a suite with another team.

 

[centipede2233]

grab your pitchforks my brethren. And follow my chant of “Ditch that Mitch” “Ditch that Mitch”.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

How many of us are going to get banned on his next teams HFboards for constantly shit talking him there?

Hell we should ban our own fans if they don't stop the love affair once he's gone

 

[Nineteen67]

The only way marner is winning a cup if a) his team ltir’s him second half of season and the team uses his cap space for a cup run, or b) marner is in the twilight of his career making league min.

Based on his career performances that’s how it looks.

If he wants to be the highest paid player in the nhl when he’s not even a top 15 player it really speaks volumes about his priorities.