Player Discussion Mitch Marner Part Infinity

[TMLAM34]

LA would be a great fit for him IMO. A Kopitar - Marner line would be pretty good even at Kopitar’s age.

 

[Legion34]

LA would be a great fit for him IMO. A Kopitar - Marner line would be pretty good even at Kopitar’s age.

Why would he leave a team that barely makes it out of the first round for a team that never does? Do you see la beating Edmonton?

Kopitar is 38. Doughty is 35. They don’t really have a core of youth.

Even if by field Is a C he is 23 and is a 20g 50 pt player.

I don’t see them having a core. Moving a baby across the continent to a high tax market to play on a worse team with a worse future.

I agreed with you before. Now I look at it and I just don’t see where he goes.

 

[notdoneyet]

Yea, good on Tre and I think he's got more autonomy now with Shanahan gone.

Now that we have yet another year to add to the sample size of #16's playoff performance, I think the leafs should offer him $3-4million tops. If you contribute like a 3rd or 4th liner, you will get paid like one. Of course, Marner and his agent will likely get butthurt at the number as it feels like a middle finger from the team, but this is business. If you don't produce like a superstar in the playoffs, you don't get paid like one.

Don't like it? Leave.

Does this apply to matthews too because he had a scshitty
Regular season and playoffs. Don’t give me the old he was hurt. His injury didn’t stop him from making the 4 nations cup a priority.

 

[Da Mash]

Isn’t it funny how the cap has ruined our love for players.

No one knew or cared what Gilmour or Clark and Sundin etc made back then and guess what?
They were paid very well for those times and still failed to win anything here. And they are icons here

Now we have again some elite players here who have struggled to win anything like all the former players since 67 but we have fans who want to run them all out of town.

Welll except Rielly who continues to get a pass and still baffles me why. Longest serving leaf

 

[Anthrax442]

Isn’t it funny how the cap has ruined our love for players.

No one knew or cared what Gilmour or Clark and Sundin etc made back then and guess what?
They were paid very well for those times and still failed to win anything here. And they are icons here

Now we have again some elite players here who have struggled to win anything like all the former players since 67 but we have fans who want to run them all out of town.

Welll except Rielly who continues to get a pass and still baffles me why. Longest serving leaf

Agreed. And we lost so many good players to the cap

 

[Mess]

Mitch Marner is a perfect example of what not to do.

Pay first and expect results to follow that Salary.

Good teams have good players EARN their financial rewards through strong playoff contributions.

If you allow player greed to run your team all you get is player arrogance and complacency, followed by endless team disappointment because they never proved they knew how to WIN first.

 

[IPS]

Isn’t it funny how the cap has ruined our love for players.

No one knew or cared what Gilmour or Clark and Sundin etc made back then and guess what?
They were paid very well for those times and still failed to win anything here. And they are icons here

Now we have again some elite players here who have struggled to win anything like all the former players since 67 but we have fans who want to run them all out of town.

Welll except Rielly who continues to get a pass and still baffles me why. Longest serving leaf

No.

Take the pay out of it and people would still have a problem with Marner's game in the playoffs. It's repulsive to watch.

People loved Gilmour, Clark and Sundin cause they punched above their weight in the playoffs. They took less talented teams and made them overachieve. That doesn't apply to this core.

 

[KapG]

Someone named a bunch of players who were top playoff performers who would never have survived in Toronto. I beg to differ. Someone please show me an example of a player who played for Toronto and who was a demon in the playoffs being ran out of town here.

 

[Racer88]

Isn’t it funny how the cap has ruined our love for players.

No one knew or cared what Gilmour or Clark and Sundin etc made back then and guess what?
They were paid very well for those times and still failed to win anything here. And they are icons here

Now we have again some elite players here who have struggled to win anything like all the former players since 67 but we have fans who want to run them all out of town.

Welll except Rielly who continues to get a pass and still baffles me why. Longest serving leaf

I would argue that the lack of effort and toughness and commitment in the hard games is what has ruined our love for this group of players. The cap has only exacerbated the pain from this soft group of similar players.

 

[GlitchMarner]

LA would be a great fit for him IMO. A Kopitar - Marner line would be pretty good even at Kopitar’s age.

LA can't beat EDM. I don't think Marner would change that.

He and Kopitar would get absolutely demolished by McDavid. Kopi is old and runs out of gas in the playoffs and Marner doesn't have the speed to keep up with McDavid.

 

[TMLAM34]

LA can't beat EDM. I don't think Marner would change that.

He and Kopitar would get absolutely demolished by McDavid. Kopi is old and runs out of gas in the playoffs and Marner doesn't have the speed to keep up with McDavid.

1. No one in the league aside from MacKinnon has the speed and skill to keep up with McDavid.

2. If you’re going to compare teams to the Oilers, it looks like Florida would be Marners only option.

 

[GlitchMarner]

Marner to Florida rumor is a great one. He would be even better in Florida, protected by players and fans. He is a great skilled player...who can play...but CANNOT lead.
Marner has skill to perform but has not developed the heart, maybe when he sees heart he might. Maybe a coach that puts him on a bench until he does would help.
There is a significant difference between bitching to the referee and whining to a ref. Players know it, fans know it.
Would Marners attitude get him the type of call Gretzky got with Dougie?
His other leading men in Toronto are just like him, AM, Reilly, WN. Put him with Tkachuk, Barkov, Marchand, maybe Bennett, maybe Marner becomes a man. It would be fun.

I think a team like FLA would be the best fit for him. That team is deep and knows how to win. They wouldn't need him to be a leader or win physical battles. They have plenty of players who can do those things and players who would open up space for him and give him time to make plays.

Don't know if FLA wants or needs him, though. I don't see them paying him what he'll want or having any good reason to do so.

 

[Mess]

No.

Take the pay out of it and people would still have a problem with Marner's game in the playoffs. It's repulsive to watch.

Marner is the same player today then he was an OHLer many years ago back in London, he hasn't changed his style all these years.

That is why I claimed it was a big mistake drafting a small soft winger with the #4 overall pick.. Sure he would put up regular season points based on skill and vision which was never a concern, but if you wanted a champion to lead you come playoff time Magic Mitch would be a passenger and not a leader.

The Leafs wasted nearly a decade now building him up as a key core player and I for one am looking forward to moving on and writing off the Marner years in Toronto as ill advised stuck between 1967 and the next Leafs Stanley Cup.

Mitch will be remember for his time here as Leafs "bringing a butter knife to a gun fight come playoff time".

 

[Confucius]

Marner is the same player today then he was an OHLer many years ago back in London, he hasn't changed his style all these years.

That is why I claimed it was a big mistake drafting a small soft winger with the #4 overall pick.. Sure he would put up regular season points based on skill and vision which was never a concern, but if you wanted a champion to lead you come playoff time Magic Mitch would be a passenger and not a leader.

The Leafs wasted nearly a decade now building him up as a key core player and I for one am looking forward to moving on and writing off the Marner years in Toronto as ill advised stuck between 1967 and the next Leafs Stanley Cup.

Mitch will be remember for his time here as Leafs "bringing a butter knife to a gun fight come playoff time".

Well we had regular season success and that seems to have worn off. It’s all about the playoffs now.