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IPS said:
Good to see you around again HamiltonNHL, haven't seen you around for awhile.
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Yeah missed his daily Marner rep. Saved the Marner PR crew some work. LOL

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m1ker said:
You are missing some key points: We can acquire assets back for Nylander and we cannot acquire any assets back for Marner
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Trading Nylander will get you back assets worth roughly 12M.

Letting Marner walk will save you 13-14M, which you can then use to get assets worth roughly 13-14M.

Keeping Nylander and letting Marner walk means you get to keep the better player and get rid of the problem. Plus you don't have to try to convince Nylander to waive his NMC or try to convince Marner to stay.

Easier, smarter, and better financially.
 
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If Marner was smart which I'm sure he's not he'd take like 17 million dollars a year to play in Anaheim where no one will know who is , he can put up 100 points every year not even have to worry about making the playoffs OR dealing with us chuckleheads chirping him.
 
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notDatsyuk said:
Trading Nylander will get you back assets worth roughly 12M.

Letting Marner walk will save you 13-14M, which you can then use to get assets worth roughly 13-14M.

Keeping Nylander and letting Marner walk means you get to keep the better player and get rid of the problem. Plus you don't have to try to convince Nylander to waive his NMC or try to convince Marner to stay.

Easier, smarter, and better financially.
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Hope ur right
 
m1ker said:
You are missing some key points: We can acquire assets back for Nylander and we cannot acquire any assets back for Marner
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Yeah the obvious preference is to always keep the better player but he doesn’t seem interested in signing and they we’re unsuccessful when shopping Nylander, so here we are.

Still 3 weeks, a lot can happen in that time.
 
Stephen said:
Well, I would say Mitch Marner is a historical outlier for having to leave his hometown over historical resentments stemming from a GM who didn’t give him Schedule B bonuses and mistreatment from a coach 8-10 years ago, whose hurt feelings couldn’t be ameliorated by a 6 year overpay.

The ignominy of coming up so feebly in big games and yet having some kind of resentment towards the situation that you have to blame it all on some mistreatment and outside noise. It’s sad and funny at the same time. Goodbye and good luck Mitch.
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Those aren't the only bad things that have happened to him in Toronto. He got held at gunpoint, had his home vandalized three different times, doxxed, harassed on the street, and people have threatened to kill his family. Sure, the team didn't do those things, but they happened here. I wonder if Willie would ride the TTC if people f***ed with him like they do Mitch.
 
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notDatsyuk said:
Trading Nylander will get you back assets worth roughly 12M.

Letting Marner walk will save you 13-14M, which you can then use to get assets worth roughly 13-14M.

Keeping Nylander and letting Marner walk means you get to keep the better player and get rid of the problem. Plus you don't have to try to convince Nylander to waive his NMC or try to convince Marner to stay.

Easier, smarter, and better financially.
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We're going to miss Marner's drive.. He leads this team much more than Captain Underpants.. Who should have never been given the "C"
 
Caesium said:
Those aren't the only bad things that have happened to him in Toronto. He got held at gunpoint, had his home vandalized three different times, doxxed, harassed on the street, and people have threatened to kill his family. Sure, the team didn't do those things, but they happened here. I wonder if Willie would ride the TTC if people f***ed with him like they do Mitch.
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He may find out, he won’t be able to hide as the 3rd wheel any longer.
 
joepeps said:
He also gets 100 points in the season and disappears in the playoffs and runs from contact... Facts... I watch every game... Doesn't look like you do
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To be fair.. Mitchy never has Matty ripping any heads off which is what a smaller play maker needs. The core 4 have never taken bodies out.. Even the easy hits will zap energy from lines when players need to skate back into the plays.
 
Caesium said:
Those aren't the only bad things that have happened to him in Toronto. He got held at gunpoint, had his home vandalized three different times, doxxed, harassed on the street, and people have threatened to kill his family. Sure, the team didn't do those things, but they happened here. I wonder if Willie would ride the TTC if people f***ed with him like they do Mitch.
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I guess the good thing is that Willy hasn't given them any reason to dislike him.

And to be perfectly clear, I am not in any way justifying or excusing the actions of those idiots.
 
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Stephen said:
Sure, “they treat us like Gods” Marner was so mistreated in Toronto. The only boy who was ever handled meanly by a coach and the only boy who didn’t get what he wanted on a rookie contract.
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Being "looked upon as... kind of gods" has both advantages and disadvantages, and It's amazing that that quote still gets misunderstood. We both know that he's endured a heck of a lot more than just the coaching abuse and the withholding of earned bonuses (though the latter was actually pretty unprecedented even besides the disrespect of the GM immediately abandoning it for the next guy), and while any one thing may not have driven him away, everything together might.
 
Dekes For Days said:
You have quite the imagination with your little stories, but no, Marner wouldn't be the first player to leave a place where he was undervalued and mistreated, though it is historically pretty rare for a GM to fumble things this badly with one of their most important players. Also pretty rare for fans to be this toxic towards one of their best players. Marner is quite the historical outlier in one way at least - the amount of irrational hate he gets. Hopefully they still find a way to come to a deal.
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Reportedly rejected 13.5, counteroffered 15.5, then refused to negotiate further. How exactly should the Leafs have handled that differently?
 
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Caesium said:
Those aren't the only bad things that have happened to him in Toronto. He got held at gunpoint, had his home vandalized three different times, doxxed, harassed on the street, and people have threatened to kill his family. Sure, the team didn't do those things, but they happened here. I wonder if Willie would ride the TTC if people f***ed with him like they do Mitch.
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And yet as far as we know he turned down the opportunity to be traded out of Toronto, didn’t request to be moved and has claimed as recently as last year that Leafs players are treated like gods.

Look. At some point, if he can’t live in Toronto, can’t deal with being a Leaf, doesn’t want to play for the organization, there is the door.

And man, what a signature Marner thought that Nylander has to get dragged into it for no apparent reason.
 
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