Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Continued

[francis246]

That's not the question I asked. I asked how many of those contracts you want on your team? If you don't want a single contract on your team - then how is that an argument for Marner.

I would not take Marner over Panarin. Panarin is a better passer and goalscorer than Marner. The rest of them are whatever. Maybe Eichel at 10M over Marner at 12M.. but I'd prefer neither.

Marner isn't our 'star'. We got two stars already. Marner is one of 4 pieces we currently have. You can find value in players that are cheaper. Look of UFA signing's in the 5M range that worked out well - Hyman, Strome, Patrick Kane, etc. Just use the money wisely, don't go overpaying for a Mikheyev and you're okay.

If we let both Marner and Tavares walk (or take a massive discount) we can rebuild our entire team. Assuming both Marner and Tavares walk, and Marner wanted 12M+ - that's 23M in cap space. You can sign four 5M dollar players for that amount - or take on contracts across the league without retention. That would give us way more depth than Marner/Tavares.

Both Matthews and Nylander are fine without Marner. Marner is a great player, but he's not worth his contract. He held out for one of the highest RFA contracts of all time his last contract and I expect him to want one of the highest UFA contracts of all time on his next one. He's not worth the cost. Tampa just walked away from their captain who won them 2 Cups and they didn't miss a step - they replaced him with Guentzel - was that a downgrade or upgrade?

Marner not a star? Haha

Rebuild your team how exactly? Right now we barely have any picks, barely have any top prospects. We don’t have the assets at the moment to even acquire a Guentzel for example. We struggle 5 on 5 and you wanna let two of our best players walk to UFA to sign who exactly? Some mediocre 30+ guys? UFA is a huge gamble, the players have to want to come here. I don’t know if you’ve taken a look at this years UFA, but it’s complete trash. It’s top heavy and not much scoring depth available.

None of the UFA examples you listed are available this year, so that point is moot. I’m not saying your perspective is wrong, but it’s just a realistic option given who’s available. There is no Hyman, there is no Blake Coleman.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Thats fine if you "don't care" but your presence here and now in November says that you do care, so either be honest and stop with the tired refrain or stand by your bold proclimations and simply vamoose until April. You shouldnt even watch until then. But guys like you are liars, you're the ones crying the loudest when the leafs shit the bed like they did against ottawa. Then all of a sudden the regular season games mean something when you got something to complain about.

You complain about my honesty then call me a liar. Do you lack the intelligence to see your own hypocrisy? Get lost and don't answer that since the answer is so obvious.

 

[Racer88]

The #1 Marner issu is when he thinking too much. East-West keefe system where the majority of scoring chance was coming off the rush, he was looking too much all the time how he could pass the puck and exemple in 2v1 with JT, he would certainly try to find every way to pass it to tavares... tonight he just keep it simple, he saw an opportunity and he jump on it. Keep it simple, goes to the net and take your chance...

... And chance off the rush is not really Marner strenght, its more Nylander strenght so that why i had more doubt about Nylander under Berube than Marner but it's an other story ( and both doing good job this season)

Marner always had great work ethic, defensive 1st mind and why whatever if it was Babcock, Keefe or Berube... Marner always been #1 player they trust in any kind of situation whatever what. The difference right now is he react to the game unstead or thinking about what he should do. If he can translate it on the playoff, he will be amaizing

Hopefully it continues once Mathews comes back.