1specter
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The fact this kid makes more than Kucherov makes my blood boil
Mitch “Magic” Marner Thread
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saffronleaf
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I think last year after first few games he said he wasn't engaged mentally so maybe that's the issue? Maybe just not mentally engaged in the task at hand.
saffronleaf
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Rantanen too lol but I guess there's an argument to be made that Marner is better than Rantanen?
stickty111
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If you would listen to some fans, they would rather have him over McDavid.
Superstar
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Be careful, he's better than Patrick Kane...
He needs to score, it's inexcusable he hasn't score in so many playoff games being paid this much...Matthews needs to score too.
stickty111
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That was a huge red flag. He said after game 1 against the Jackets he wasn't engaged.
saffronleaf
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Still doesn't seem engaged. Maybe he needs a motivator or something.
stickty111
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Not sure what that is. Matthews and Nylander together is the way too go.
koyvoo
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Matthews and Nylander may get Matthews going. It’s just as likely to get Marner going by getting him away from the oppositions best defensive players too. The Danault line can shut guys down. The rest of their guys, not so much.
This is where having JT would have been nice. You could have easily moved Nylander up with Matthews and then reunited Tavares and Marner.
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Rantanen and Marner are obviously as different as they come as far as wingers are concerned. Rantanen is a horse and an terrific athlete with Matthews like size and just a step behind in terms of scoring. Skates like the wind. Marner would fall into the cerebral creative playmaker and defensively versatile.
Stephen
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The weird thing is the Leafs don’t ever use Marner with a guy like Kerfoot like Marner is too good for centre’s like that. But Kerfoot has been playing with a ton of energy which would compliment Marner’s hustle game and Marner’s creativity could spark some offense out of Kerfoot.
Marner, being a fantastic playmaker, is at his best when he's paired with a scorer. And Kerfoot's like Mikhayev in that he gets tons of chances, but doesn't seem to know what to do with most of them. I don't think it'd work. Maybe if they had Foligno to put on the other side.
I'm not sure why you quoted my posts if you're not even replying to it. Yes, there are a lot of bad takes about Marner around here. Other people being wrong doesn't absolve you of your bad takes, or the way you have conducted yourself though, and I imagine many of them have at least watched the games that they are commenting on. When I got tagged by you, I had hoped you were ready to acknowledge where our previous discussion left off, and how wrong you were regarding Marner's playoff statistics, and apologize for the false accusations you threw around. That unfortunately does not seem to be the case.
Not My Tempo
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I think Marner struggles against top competition in the playoffs. The one playoffs he did well in, 2017-2018, Matthews and Nylander were tied up with the Bergeron line. Since then he’s had to face the top competition and has struggled.
Matthews is a similar story, but in 2018-19, once Marner/Tavares had to face the Bergeron line he popped off.
Matthews is a similar story, but in 2018-19, once Marner/Tavares had to face the Bergeron line he popped off.
Leaf4Life
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"Magic" Mitch's disappearing act in the playoffs is second to none!
Haha how wrong I was about his playoff stats? I said he had one primary assist but he had two? OMG what a catastrophic mistake...that certainly changes Marners post season to not very good to sensational. Oh right you were also pissed because I pointed out that Marner has no goals in his last 15 playoff games (now 16). Remember you said "he's a playmaker"! Your right golly me... my take was bad how could I make the mistake in thinking that a 11 million dollar winger playing 1st powerplay and up to 27 mins a night might score a goal in 16 games. Jeesh what a bad take - yours certainly is better, he is a playmaker!
My takes are bad but yours are better?
... I watched enough of the games to come to a decision that Marner was not playing good enough. Looks like many people agree with my "take". I have to ask how much of the games are you watching because you were saying Marner has been the Leafs "best player"?
Can't say that I'm surprised that when a bunch of posters entered into this thread saying Marner hasn't been good enough you put your tail between your legs..yet you were in full attack mode when there were just a couple.
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Marner needs to seriously step up his game...a big disappointment so far these playoffs considering how much he gets paid...his contract was an overpayment and was always going to be hard for him to live up to it. Need him to take Montreal to the cleaners in game 6.
Kucherov: 6 games, 3 goals, 11 points
Point: 6 games, 4 goals, 6 points
Rantanen: 4 games, 1 goal, 7 points
Aho: 6 games, 5 goals, 7 points
Marner: 5 games, 0 goals, 4 points
And this is not evening looking back at last year's post-season.
Kucherov: 6 games, 3 goals, 11 points
Point: 6 games, 4 goals, 6 points
Rantanen: 4 games, 1 goal, 7 points
Aho: 6 games, 5 goals, 7 points
Marner: 5 games, 0 goals, 4 points
And this is not evening looking back at last year's post-season.
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He is behind all of his peers and he has the EASIEST matchup these playoffs out of all of them.
Aho and Point are also 200 ft. centers who make a very large impact. The winger comparables are just flat out outproducing him at a huge discrepancy.
He needs to show something already, this is getting ridiculous.
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His post-season production numbers are getting really indefensible. If he doesn't become part of the solution, eventually he'll be part of the problem.
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Your doing him a huge favor by not including last post season in the comparison.
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Trapper
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Well we will certainly see when our next opponent is the bigger, more talented Jets.
Racer88
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One thing for sure is that Marner is proving his contract is a massive overpayment.
All the razzle dazzle in the regular season doesn’t mean anything if you disappear in the playoffs.
If they blow this series the new Leafs GM should move Marner for as much return as he can get as soon as he can
All the razzle dazzle in the regular season doesn’t mean anything if you disappear in the playoffs.
If they blow this series the new Leafs GM should move Marner for as much return as he can get as soon as he can
The entire top line has been a disappointment. Singling out Marner while ignoring Matthews and Hymans pathetic performances isn't correct.
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